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What are your experiences with legalized hobbying around the world?

RickeyRomance

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Who among us has visited places where our little hobby is all fine and good and partaken in the local fare?

I've had the pleasure of sampling some of the delicious treats in Brasil a few times, Belgium and France before they cracked down on it in 2016.

My #1 experience, by leaps and bounds, was in Rio de Janeiro. Not a massage per se but a NIGHTCLUB where every gorgeous, young woman in the place was an independent contractor. It's a real club, open to the public, but it was something out of a dream. Half of them looked like Shakira or Beyonce with a few Alana de la Garzas and Avy Scotts thrown in. You could spot the married couples there for a little late night treat as well.

The meal was served up in an adjoining hotel that you entered through the parking lot and you got the key and paid your toll with the same front desk that you paid your cover charge and coat check to. It was an amazingly efficient and easy system. Once your meal was done, you could leave or just come back and dance and party with some of the others.

I talked to a couple of them about this as a career choice and they all had day jobs and this was just a way to earn extra money in a safe, completely legal fashion. In this way, the Brazilians are FAR more enlightened and evolved than us. One of the girls even said it best. She said that it was seen as no different than paying someone to come and move a sofa or give them a manicure. "What's the big deal? It's just ___."

So what's your experience?
 

VJLUTZ

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I've been to both Berlin and Amsterdam on business, but never did more than look. Briefly checked out the Red Light District in Amsterdam. I found it a real turn off. The whole district is overrun with tourists who watch the girls like kids watch animals in a zoo. To me, that is a real deterrent to making a move.

Prostitution is legal throughout Germany. Berlin has legalized brothels, but they were a ways from my hotel and I was too busy to check them out. It also has street walkers too, but would not touch those even with someone else's dick.

I also went to Bejing China and checked out a massage at a "pink light" place near my hotel. It was pretty awful by US AMP standards.

Actually, those trips made me appreciate the AMP model in the US (legal or not).
 

chunfun

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Amsterdam, Singapore, and DR are all great places to visit for legal P4P. China is illegal, but you wouldn't know it, unless you got caught.

Amsterdam has gorgeous European and Latina/Brazilian ladies. It is an open market. Agree with previous comments about the zoo-like atmosphere. But there are quieter alleys where the girls are more laid back. I spent about 50 Euro for a busty Brazilian. She was an hour of pure fun. Even let me take her picture!

Singapore has an Asian spin, and I enjoyed several Filipinas, a Malay/Chinese, and a Punjabi Indian. I spent a few days/nights with a tiny Filipina, and we rocked each other's worlds. The Malaysian I saw twice, and the second time was after the spa closed. She "forgot" condoms and I went BB for the first time. I still have her number and we text holiday greetings. I was not impressed with the Indian. Too much business, always trying to up-sell (more time, gifts, cab fare, etc.). I bar-fined a pair of Filipinas at Orchard Towers (4 floors of whores). It was a total waste of time. No sex, and I did not respond well to teasing or feeble HJ/BJ. I eventually threw them out of my room, and stole a pair of panties for my trouble. It was funny to see her looking for her skivvies, and leaving in a hff commando-style LOL. Singapore was the most expensive. Like $150-200 SGD an hour!

I have a timeshare in DR, and go almost once a year. I have gone to all-inclusive sex resorts, and brought freelancers to my condo. Dominicans are sexy as hell but crazy as fuck! The price varied, but you get what you pay for. 2000 DOP ($40) or less for street trash. $2500 a week for all-inclusive GFE, where you can switch girls once a day, or invite more to play for $100/half day or $200/full day. The record is 11 in one day. Not me, I'm too old for that kind of $#!+

I used to go to China - Shanghai quite a bit. It is illegal there, but once you meet a good girl, she will give you her friends' numbers when she is busy. They know how to evade hotel security, even in the 4-5 star places. At one point I was seeing 3 on a regular basis. My first girl always welcomed me back the first night. Based upon her helpfulness, I thought it best to keep her around. Then I saw her "friend" for an overnight. Then the second girl's "friend" every other night until I returned home. At the time, the going rate was 800 RMB, or $125 a night (overnight, MSOG!). I was younger then, ah youth! As you can tell from my posts, I prefer Chinese even to this day! I like how they react when they let themselves go to the pleasure.
 

Koujiao

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Amsterdam, Singapore, and DR are all great places to visit for legal P4P. China is illegal, but you wouldn't know it, unless you got caught.

Amsterdam has gorgeous European and Latina/Brazilian ladies. It is an open market. Agree with previous comments about the zoo-like atmosphere. But there are quieter alleys where the girls are more laid back. I spent about 50 Euro for a busty Brazilian. She was an hour of pure fun. Even let me take her picture!

Singapore has an Asian spin, and I enjoyed several Filipinas, a Malay/Chinese, and a Punjabi Indian. I spent a few days/nights with a tiny Filipina, and we rocked each other's worlds. The Malaysian I saw twice, and the second time was after the spa closed. She "forgot" condoms and I went BB for the first time. I still have her number and we text holiday greetings. I was not impressed with the Indian. Too much business, always trying to up-sell (more time, gifts, cab fare, etc.). I bar-fined a pair of Filipinas at Orchard Towers (4 floors of whores). It was a total waste of time. No sex, and I did not respond well to teasing or feeble HJ/BJ. I eventually threw them out of my room, and stole a pair of panties for my trouble. It was funny to see her looking for her skivvies, and leaving in a hff commando-style LOL. Singapore was the most expensive. Like $150-200 SGD an hour!

I have a timeshare in DR, and go almost once a year. I have gone to all-inclusive sex resorts, and brought freelancers to my condo. Dominicans are sexy as hell but crazy as fuck! The price varied, but you get what you pay for. 2000 DOP ($40) or less for street trash. $2500 a week for all-inclusive GFE, where you can switch girls once a day, or invite more to play for $100/half day or $200/full day. The record is 11 in one day. Not me, I'm too old for that kind of $#!+

I used to go to China - Shanghai quite a bit. It is illegal there, but once you meet a good girl, she will give you her friends' numbers when she is busy. They know how to evade hotel security, even in the 4-5 star places. At one point I was seeing 3 on a regular basis. My first girl always welcomed me back the first night. Based upon her helpfulness, I thought it best to keep her around. Then I saw her "friend" for an overnight. Then the second girl's "friend" every other night until I returned home. At the time, the going rate was 800 RMB, or $125 a night (overnight, MSOG!). I was younger then, ah youth! As you can tell from my posts, I prefer Chinese even to this day! I like how they react when they let themselves go to the pleasure.
All true. Shanghai, Suzhou, Guanzhou, Hongzhou, in fact everywhere....pre-olympics was wild. Southern China was a knotch above, if you were caucasian you were suddenly handsome, smart and funny. Walk the streets and see the fishbowls lit up with the farm girls, all willing to tske you to the hidden room, 100-200 rmb. Red rope, just ask. Western men were a target, and sex in china was quite unemotional. Something to do, no more significant that going to Starbucks. Knocks on your door by total phantasy women who brought a 11/10 friend for 600 rmb for the night, at a time when the exchange was 8.4/USD, was typical. Lock up everything in the room.

Singapore was quite different 10-15 years ago. 5 legal red light districts, very well organized, accepted by most. But....It was quite a scene in the geylang district amongst the lorans. 28 blocks of anything you want, or want to avoid. The back alleyway that ran from loran 6 to 10 was a sad representation of what the most beautiful young asian women you will ever see, barely out of childhood, had to do to escape abject poverty. Lined up shoulder to shoulder over 4 or more blocks, on their 6 week visas from inner reaches of China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand and other regional countries, ladies who could make he cover of any magazine, were selling themselves for a few dollars in order to afford their family a better life back home. Every hotel was by the hour.

These experiences offer opportunities that will measure who you are and who you are not.
 

Koujiao

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VJ, I suspect each of us would have mixed emotions experiencing these worlds where the wome use the only tool they have, save their soul, to make a better life.

And i have seen and experienced nothing compared to many.

Oh but for the grace of god....
 

VJLUTZ

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VJ, I suspect each of us would have mixed emotions experiencing these worlds where the wome use the only tool they have, save their soul, to make a better life.

And i have seen and experienced nothing compared to many.

Oh but for the grace of god....
Yeah, your description of the Loran district in Singapore is haunting. Not sure I'd have the stomach for it, regardless of what my "little brother" wanted.
 

chunfun

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All true. Shanghai, Suzhou, Guanzhou, Hongzhou, in fact everywhere....pre-olympics was wild. Southern China was a knotch above, if you were caucasian you were suddenly handsome, smart and funny. Walk the streets and see the fishbowls lit up with the farm girls, all willing to tske you to the hidden room, 100-200 rmb. Red rope, just ask. Western men were a target, and sex in china was quite unemotional. Something to do, no more significant that going to Starbucks. Knocks on your door by total phantasy women who brought a 11/10 friend for 600 rmb for the night, at a time when the exchange was 8.4/USD, was typical. Lock up everything in the room.

Singapore was quite different 10-15 years ago. 5 legal red light districts, very well organized, accepted by most. But....It was quite a scene in the geylang district amongst the lorans. 28 blocks of anything you want, or want to avoid. The back alleyway that ran from loran 6 to 10 was a sad representation of what the most beautiful young asian women you will ever see, barely out of childhood, had to do to escape abject poverty. Lined up shoulder to shoulder over 4 or more blocks, on their 6 week visas from inner reaches of China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand and other regional countries, ladies who could make he cover of any magazine, were selling themselves for a few dollars in order to afford their family a better life back home. Every hotel was by the hour.

These experiences offer opportunities that will measure who you are and who you are not.
I never visited the lorans. Glad I did not.
 

Happydaysagain2

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Hopefully none of our Mongers are in to Child prostitution. (It makes me sick to think that you would partake in these activities). In regards to Tourist prostitution this is a way of life. Most of these young ladies have families (provider ages 20-40) and if they were not able to offer these services they would starve. Tourist are offering a month salary for an hour of pleasure where the local population is offering pennies. In the US I have never met a provider that did not enjoy her activities... If I felt she was forced I would walk out.
 

Koujiao

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I never visited the lorans. Glad I did not.
Singapore is not much different than some parts of Indonesia or Malaysia, if you have a chance to visit those areas. Having spent a good bit of time doing business in those areas, i had the chance to see quite a bit, learn the languages, walk the streets, blend with the cultures.

To be fair, the Loran's are legalized - very well organized, as you would expect in Singapore. Go to L18 for ladyboys, L8 for pinay, L12 for Vietnamese. Just look it up on the loran menu and have what you want. The legal brothels are intermixed with other businesses, the difference being the red street number on the shop to indicate what you find behind the door. No one really looks twice.

But the alleyway, and this was not a hidden alley, was breathtakingly sad. What choice did these girls, barely women, have but to sell their only asset. Some had touts, many were independent, all were aware of what they had to do. No judgement here, I came feom the USA, we all have a silver spoon. It was shut down a while ago because the girls were not registered, not tested, notmin the system.

Little India is a smaller district, less foot traffic. The best thing to buy there is probably food, not sex.

Orchard Towers is worth a visit for the experience.
 

Oscar2wilde

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Singapore is not much different than some parts of Indonesia or Malaysia, if you have a chance to visit those areas. Having spent a good bit of time doing business in those areas, i had the chance to see quite a bit, learn the languages, walk the streets, blend with the cultures.

To be fair, the Loran's are legalized - very well organized, as you would expect in Singapore. Go to L18 for ladyboys, L8 for pinay, L12 for Vietnamese. Just look it up on the loran menu and have what you want. The legal brothels are intermixed with other businesses, the difference being the red street number on the shop to indicate what you find behind the door. No one really looks twice.

But the alleyway, and this was not a hidden alley, was breathtakingly sad. What choice did these girls, barely women, have but to sell their only asset. Some had touts, many were independent, all were aware of what they had to do. No judgement here, I came feom the USA, we all have a silver spoon. It was shut down a while ago because the girls were not registered, not tested, notmin the system.

Little India is a smaller district, less foot traffic. The best thing to buy there is probably food, not sex.

Orchard Towers is worth a visit for the experience.
Surprised to hear that about Singapore. I haven't been there since shortly after they originally cleaned it up, pre-AIDS. Having been there earlier as well, it was a drastic, stark change. Originally, more like Indonesia or Malaysia and had to do visuals before any encounter. It seemed almost pristine once the new regime took over. Having seen that Crazy Asian movie, I thought things had improved even more. Sad to hear.
Damn, am I really that old?
 

Nicksuperlover

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All true. Shanghai, Suzhou, Guanzhou, Hongzhou, in fact everywhere....pre-olympics was wild. Southern China was a knotch above, if you were caucasian you were suddenly handsome, smart and funny. Walk the streets and see the fishbowls lit up with the farm girls, all willing to tske you to the hidden room, 100-200 rmb. Red rope, just ask. Western men were a target, and sex in china was quite unemotional. Something to do, no more significant that going to Starbucks. Knocks on your door by total phantasy women who brought a 11/10 friend for 600 rmb for the night, at a time when the exchange was 8.4/USD, was typical. Lock up everything in the room.

Singapore was quite different 10-15 years ago. 5 legal red light districts, very well organized, accepted by most. But....It was quite a scene in the geylang district amongst the lorans. 28 blocks of anything you want, or want to avoid. The back alleyway that ran from loran 6 to 10 was a sad representation of what the most beautiful young asian women you will ever see, barely out of childhood, had to do to escape abject poverty. Lined up shoulder to shoulder over 4 or more blocks, on their 6 week visas from inner reaches of China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand and other regional countries, ladies who could make he cover of any magazine, were selling themselves for a few dollars in order to afford their family a better life back home. Every hotel was by the hour.

These experiences offer opportunities that will measure who you are and who you are not.
I was in Beijing for the olympics. I was with SO but girls were trying to grab me on the street. Once I was alone in a bar and like 4 girls came up to me one after the other. I had to decline unfortunately.
 

Nicksuperlover

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In the 90s I had a client on the Texas Mexico border. At night I used to drive to the border, park, walk across the bridge and take a Mexican taxi to “boys town”. It was a walled up complex of apartments where the girls of all ages, shapes and sizes were soliciting and a few bars with more dolled up higher priced girls. Mostly I’d go and I remember you had to pay a $1 fee to the cops on the way in. Have a drink at the bar and pick up one of those girls, who were like $50 or so, drink $1 Coronas and tequila shots and shop the rest of the place. I mean these girls were like like $25 and I was a little drunk and would just hammer away. Once I had a 19 yo cute Mexican girls for $15. It was like Amsterdam but Mexican style, a couple steps down in quality and price point.
 
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