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Been living in NYC for over 30 YRS. But this has to stop

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Porkchop

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Hey you goons, Democrats aren’t holding up the border bill. The GOP refuses to take up any immigration legislation so there’s no real legal means of immigration. MAGA shitstains don’t want to govern, they just want chaos.
I disagree. Republicans don’t need to do anything about immigration. There are plenty of laws in the books already. All that idiotic asshole roaming the halls of the white has to do is enforce the laws.
Passing more laws that democrats will just continue to ignore accomplishes what?
 

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TX has y default. Borders are defined by territory. Borders aren't wide open. If it was, TX wouldn't have survived. Asylum is too easy to seek.

And you know how I voted, how? For the record, I'm a registered GOP. NYC may have Sanctuary Laws, but so have plenty of other cities. Abbott should spread the load besides NYC and Chicago. I'm not happy about my tax dollars being used to house them.
Take that up with your representatives then. Texas keep sending them to NYC, Chicago, LA, Denver, Mass., etc
 

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I haven't read much of the comments here so apologies for jumping in at random.

I'm as liberal and left leaning as they come but it's gotten a bit ridiculous. It's hard to blame GOP when you see Adams putting together new contracts with hotels for more places for immigrants to stay and offering them prepaid credit cards. It's ridiculous because we have floated the idea of UBI around and it gets shot down but suddenly we can use our budget to essentially offer a form of UBI to immigrants? At what point are we going to continue to offer people things? I'm not against offering immigrants resources, but when it's grinding up against resources that could be used to take care of the homeless problem that has been an issue way before the immigrant problem. Or could be used to better our public transportation infrastructure. Or be used for better health care, roads, education, etc. The influx of people makes the city harder to be in. Trains and buses are way more crowded than ever. Housing prices are increasing.
 

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Updated some more questions:
I think before anyone wastes anymore time on this thread with the delusional, one should ask the members some of these questions first:
1. What is a woman?
2. Can men get pregnant?
3. Should tampons be supplied in the men's bathroom?
4. How many genders are there?
5. Did you ever post a black square or Ukraine flag in your bio?
6. Do you state your pronouns in your bio?
 

bittersweetmemories

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I haven't read much of the comments here so apologies for jumping in at random.

I'm as liberal and left leaning as they come but it's gotten a bit ridiculous. It's hard to blame GOP when you see Adams putting together new contracts with hotels for more places for immigrants to stay and offering them prepaid credit cards. It's ridiculous because we have floated the idea of UBI around and it gets shot down but suddenly we can use our budget to essentially offer a form of UBI to immigrants? At what point are we going to continue to offer people things? I'm not against offering immigrants resources, but when it's grinding up against resources that could be used to take care of the homeless problem that has been an issue way before the immigrant problem. Or could be used to better our public transportation infrastructure. Or be used for better health care, roads, education, etc. The influx of people makes the city harder to be in. Trains and buses are way more crowded than ever. Housing prices are increasing.
Great to see a display of common sense. You must be a traditional liberal.
 

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You’re slinging so many sophistic insults at Republicans, I can’t bother to respond. Nothing will divert you from your black and white world view. Enjoy. .
I am saying exactly what they are and backing up my assertations with evidence. I am not arbitrarily calling them names. I'm not a fucking idiot. I am articulate and choose words for a reason.

But regarding other civilizations: certainly they had laws; nothing could get done without laws.
However what makes the West unique isn’t laws, but freedoms.

Btw, Russia isn’t the West - you’re confusing the West with ‘white people’!
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What did I say that was wrong? Be specific

The great empires, such as the Abbasid in Baghdad (highly dependent on vast numbers of slaves btw) proved the exception, and for a while was the world’s center of learning and investigation. But in the end Islam asserted its prerogative over science, and the West quickly outstripped the great age of Muslim innovation.
Today, more books are translated in one year in Spain than in the last 1,000 years in the Arab Middle East.
I dont know what point you are trying to make at all, this doesnt refute any of my points, yeah its alot easier to translate things when theres millions of more people and computers.


Anyway, the principle of equality regardless of tribe or religion was revolutionary. That it was originally relegated to white men of property is immaterial, because it nevertheless represented a completely new philosophy based on merit; those rights were eventually expanded on to include all people.
Even today most places in the world do not have the basic assumptions of freedom and fairness that we Americans take for granted. Things get done based on your connections, and bribery.
Both capitalism and innovation thrive in a system that rewards merit; this is why millions upon millions of people are trying to come here. They do not have this at home.
The idea of equality under the law predates European civilization This was written in China between 700 and 625 BC
"the monarch and his subjects no matter how great and small they are complying with the law will be the great order" - Guan Zhong
Clearly you are white because only someone whos white would completely ignore the experience of non whites it was not until the 1960s that European civilization began to move away for racial class systems in earnest. Right now Europeans are still promoting racial caste systems via neo nazism , what you are talking about is a very recent development and it is unknown if it will even persist because there are these people called conservatives that are fighting tooth an nail to deconstuct the legal frameworks that promote this equality. The freedoms that americans take for granted are not unique to america , all first world countries enjoy them and the majority of the second world enjoys these rights as well. You are talking like its the year 1452 , its 2023 dog.

But those millions will tend to bring their cultural assumptions and practices with them; that’s why immigration must be managed, and slow enough to guarantee assimilation. Or the whole thing comes down.
I agree and do not believe in open borders.

The Democratic Party clearly has a plan: to flood the country with new potential voters and create a permanent Democratic majority.
Some municipalities have laws that voters do not have to prove citizenship, only swear to it; but more importantly census takers count illegal aliens, so that expands the number of representatives, giving more congressional votes to Democrat strongholds.
Now youre smoking conservative crack. Clearly you are assuming that all of these people will automatically be democrats which is fucking stupid. People are dumb and because people are dumb millions of those people will register as republicans as well if they are legalized. Here in reality the democratic party is already much larger than the republican party by millions. We dont need illegal immigrants to defeat you. You committed suicide by making Trump the leader of your movement. It was a dying movement to begin with but Trump has dramatically sped up that collapse. We dont need illegal immigrants to beat you. We have been beating you every time we show up to the polls since the 90s. We dont have a registration problem like you republicans , we have a TURNOUT PROBLEM and MAGA gets dems to turnout. If we increase our turnout by 5% you cant win any national elections. NOT REGISTER 5% MORE , JUST HAVE 5% MORE OF THE CURRENTLY REGISTERED DEMS SHOWING UP DOOMS REPUBLICANS.

Republicans have secured the popular vote in national elections like less than 10 times over the past 30 years. Thats fucking pathetic. If it was not for technicalities in election laws you would not even exist. Any party that relies on legal technicalities rather than being popular is fucking doomed. You dont need to be a political scientist to understand that relying on legal parlor tricks is not healthy or sustainable for any political movment in a democracy
 

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We did. Eric Adams stopped the buses. Still doesn't mean NYC Taxpayers can't file a Class Action Civil Suit against Gov Abbott for damages.
Damages for what?
So Texas and Arizona are supposed to bear the cost of all the illegals?
From what I read the illegals being bussed have all done so voluntarily?
Texas isn’t a sanctuary state, NY is.
They want them then they should get them.
 

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Damages for what?
So Texas and Arizona are supposed to bear the cost of all the illegals?
From what I read the illegals being bussed have all done so voluntarily?
Texas isn’t a sanctuary state, NY is.
They want them then they should get them.
Damages for draining NYC tax dollars. Waiting on the result of Eric Adam's $700Mil suit against the bus companies for the same thing. No one said TX and Az needs to handle it alone. Free up funds so the application load can be better spread out.
 

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You know, in a way that says it all.
You’re so isolated in your bubble, you’re surprised that you even have to interact with someone of a different politic persuasion than yourself.
And you then feel the need to broadcast it, for backup.
I debate american conservatives online and in real life. What you said is a baseless assumption that is incorrect.

In 2020 20% of black men voted for Trump. He’s only expanded on his appeal to blacks and Hispanics since then.
You can dismiss all those voters as idiots, seduced by Orange Man’s siren song, and I’m sure you will. It’s very comforting to dismiss half the country as dumbasses.
13% of blacks voted for trump. Big surprise , your posts this entire time are rife with inaccurate statements, throw this one on the fuckin pile. Republicans are dumbasses . you have to be a fucking idiot to choose a reality tv con artist with a criminal history which includes sex crimes over a credentialed professional. Republicans are so stupid during covid they took the advice of media figures rather than doctors and the death rates of conservatives during covid proves it.

Heres the actual stats from the election
https://www.statista.com/statistics...election-exit-polls-share-votes-ethnicity-us/

Yet that would be a profound and sorry mistake, and a missed opportunity to expand your understanding of people around you.
I under stand why dogs eat their own feces, theyre stupid. Thats all you need to know
 

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Isn't it funny the Democrats now admit there's a border crisis and border invasion, but blame Republicans for it? :ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::LOL::LOL:

Best way to help the border crisis is by sending more money to Ukraine!


and dont forget to vote for Trump! he will make out cities safe again, get Hillary arrested, set up a better healthcare system than Obamacare and make Mexico pay for a border wall!

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….oh wait he didn’t any of that
 

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so you’re saying Biden is in fact securing the border and democrats are not for open border?

Absolutely not
Biden is a socialist plant continuing the Marxist legacy of The Clinton’s and Obama crime family
You’ll see! His son Hunter will have his day in court
things will improve if we elect Trump
I mean just look at that Taylor Swift pic I posted, she’s finally on board
 

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Absolutely not
Biden is a socialist plant continuing the Marxist legacy of The Clinton’s and Obama crime family
You’ll see! His son Hunter will have his day in court
things will improve if we elect Trump
I mean just look at that Taylor Swift pic I posted, she’s finally on board
I appreciate your sarcasm but trying to stay on topic
 
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