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Advice for during a raid?

VJLUTZ

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LOL. Determining the probability of getting busted in an AMP reminds me of people who compute the probability of intelligent, extra-terrestrial life. Slightly change one variable value and you get a very different result. Though I do agree, the odds of getting busted in any given visit are microscopic, but still higher than getting hit by lightning or dying in a plane crash.
 

Wayne1250

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Thanks V exactly right, only point is how remote a problem getting in caught in a raid is.

Now extra terrestrials is a different story, not so hypothetical, too much evidence, lol.

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pestosauce

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Unless they catch you in the act they can't charge you with any crime. Massage is not illegal, other activities there are. They are looking to score cash. I know girls who were working but not attending customers while the raid occurred and they had to let them go. Usually they have a plant (customer working with LE) who has marked bills and asks for two girls. Gets massage and when it comes down to the flip girls offer various services which the customer usually pays for then when it gets almost in progress gives a sign to outside LE they comes in for the actual raid. Marked bills are found as evidence. Happens quickly but usually customers in other rooms aren't affected.
 

charliebrown

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Man do I REALLY HATE when a virgin gets on this site asking for advice. I can give you a probability of getting caught by LE. another for each type of STD. another for getting caught by someone other than LE. The traces of your internet use and how it can mysteriously show up 10 years from now. The list is long and I do not want to lose your attention. If you are a virgin, this is my advice to you. Stay a virgin. Find out what is driving you to want to cheat on your wife. If she is young, beautiful and loves you, then spend every imaginable effort you have improving that relationship.

This is a bad habit and everyone on this site knows it. If you disagree with me, then discuss it with your family/friends/coworkers and see what they think.
 

Micawber

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Man do I REALLY HATE when a virgin gets on this site asking for advice. I can give you a probability of getting caught by LE. another for each type of STD. another for getting caught by someone other than LE. The traces of your internet use and how it can mysteriously show up 10 years from now. The list is long and I do not want to lose your attention. If you are a virgin, this is my advice to you. Stay a virgin. Find out what is driving you to want to cheat on your wife. If she is young, beautiful and loves you, then spend every imaginable effort you have improving that relationship.

This is a bad habit and everyone on this site knows it. If you disagree with me, then discuss it with your family/friends/coworkers and see what they think.
You're a good man, Charlie Brown
 

ballshit

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OP, if I had a chance to go back, I probably wouldn't do it, not because of raids or STDs or whatever but just the sheer amount of money you put into hobbying. Once you pop, hard to stop.
 

PhillyJimi

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Look there are 2 kinds of busts.

#1 A raid at an AMP usually happens after an undercover is sent in to get evidence of an exchange of a service for money. They are there to only arrest the providers of the service. You're only there for a massage right? Biggest mistake is to talk. If they can scare you into confessing that she and you did XYZ for $, then you'll have done their work for them. Remember you're innocent until proven guilty.

#2 A sting where you respond to an ad for services, they have mics in the room waiting or on the undercover lady for you to proposition her with money for a particular act.
 

onemangang

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How would you get caught? Even if she happens to be tugging you right at the moment the cops bust into the place, you are behind a second door in the particular room. Surely, the cops coming in the front door is gonna cause a commotion that you and your masseuse will hear. How many fractions of a second does it take for her to stop tugging?
 

mikemendez

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Getting busted while you are visiting an AMP is unlikely unless you implicate yourself if a bust were to occur.
Walking into a fake spa set up by LE is more likely, when a spa is raided LE comes with warrant in hand, your name isn’t mentioned anywhere on the warrant, providers are. A LE sting is set up, “under new management”
You walk in and don’t listen to your instincts, the smaller head is not your best friend at this point, lol, the hostess will ask you what you want, you will implicate yourself as soon as you open your mouth and cover donation, all the while being video/audio tape recorded. This actually occurred here in Houston at the renown 7 Star Spa, 160 or so mongers we arrested, included a sheriff deputy, a member of homeland security, school teacher and a couple attorneys.
 

VJLUTZ

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Walking into a fake spa set up by LE is more likely, when a spa is raided LE comes with warrant in hand, your name isn’t mentioned anywhere on the warrant, providers are. A LE sting is set up, “under new management”

That is truly nightmarish. Luckily, around here, LE only ever does motel-based stings. Which is why some of us avoid those like the plague. Even so, that doesn't mean local LE can't adapt their tactics. It argues against TOFTT and rushing out to try a new spa having a "Grand Opening". It would really suck balls if an established spa were to become a honey-pot trap for its regular clients.
 

mikemendez

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7 star spa had been previously shut down by LE, it reopened briefly, got busted again and put out of business for good, LE knew this location was way to popular and reopened the fake spa naming it 8 star spa, 170 mongers were pinched and in just a matter of days.
 

mikemendez

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I just pull out my undercover LE badge and they let me walk right out as I’m pulling up my trousers.
I was off by quite a few and prolly some details, it was all over the daily news casts here in Houston, a continuous show of photos displayed each time they ran the story, I remember passing by this location, saw the new sign/banner, immediately took a drive into the large parking lot and around back, something just didn’t seem right, spidey sense? No, ‘‘twas monger sense, even spoke about my concerns openly on SH, turns out I was right, I imagine they had at least one Asian UC woman posing as the Mamasan, mongers were like lambs to the slaughter. You lose you HF, tip, get pinched and a mug shot photo plastered all over the news, with a load still in tow, fuck that.
 

bertie123

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I'm thinking of getting my feet wet with my first FS place but I'm super paranoid about being there during a raid, especially since I'm married and I don't want mine or anyone else's life ruined. I know we all make our own decisions and take our own risks but this has me hesitant about enjoying myself at a FS place.

Anyone ever been involved in a raid? Can you be arrested? Are their days that are "safe" from raids? What happens if you just say you're their for a massage? Am I too paranoid? Lol
i was caught in a raid once. it's scary, as you can imagine. long ago at a place in nyc, 43/3rd. my normal policy is to go very late, hopefully that way LE is alseep. this one time i decided to go at 8pm. i'm in a room and there's a loud nasty banging on all the doors with someone saying "everybody out!!". in all the scurrying i put on my underwear backwards. when i left the room there was a black guy sitting calmly on the hallway floor, i think he was a john.

i sheepishly said "is it ok if i leave". that's my general demeanor anyway, but that time i went out of my way to not ruffle anyone and acted very quiet and withdrawn. the officer inside waved me by, when i stepped out onto the hallway staircase(the spa was at the top of a staircase) there were 5 or 6 police lined along the stairs with one female officer.

now, it could be at that time they were only there to get the business and not the clients, however i think it helped that i looked vulnerable.
 
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