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Confused

Chiparlor

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The criteria here will no doubt vary from person to person. But here are some I use that seem pretty sure-fire:

1. Does she chat with you obsessively? [Including getting worried when you don't immediately respond and frequently asking for your picture.]
2. Does she fuck you for free outside the spa? Will she commute on a bus over an hour (there and back) out of her own pocket to fuck you for free?
3. Does she buy you expensive gifts w/o you asking or even making any material demands on you?
4. Does she regularly tell you she loves you?

If the answer to all four is "Yes", then she cares about you. I have seen that behavior combo, but only out of one [legit] spa girl, out of over 100.

Back in the day, when I dated civvies, they way to tell if they really liked you was: would they offer to pay for stuff (like dinner or drinks)? That, and a certain strained face they made (which I've seen on multiple girls, but never seen described online), was a tell-tale sign that I could get them into bed that night. Or....if they offered to give you a BJ in the bushes.
@VJLUTZ You mentioned 4 points above. One of my atf met your point nbr 1, 3, and 4. #2 did not happen. She has a green card. I suspect she is either married or with a so. I have been chasing her for about a year. Didnt happen and I gave up and moved on.
 

Koujiao

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This thread would sell fast as a mans daters guide but it is a struggle what title to use. Advertise it in the latest on line magazine, "Modern Misogeny" with the article lead in, "Why I want a GFE But not a Girlfriend"

Article Title: Mens guide to women, all you need to know, by men who ___________

Pay for it?
Are emotionally damaged?
Have advice they cant follow?
 

Yello Tail

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Do you really think this girl you speak of never gave a bj?? Even outside the spa?? I find that highly unlikely.
Yes, I believe it.I had been going to this place for years. Knew the manager long before she was the manager. She always had two young women working for her with some older backups who covered for vacation days - trips back to China. I got to know these two providers very well. Both were very inexperienced when they first started working. One had descent CBJ skills. The second one (the one of which I speak) had no skills what so ever and trained under the first one. She was really cute though. Nice body and nice set that she got comfortable showing off over time. Lots of four hands with those two, it was great.
 

Uniquelyme

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Yes, I believe it.I had been going to this place for years. Knew the manager long before she was the manager. She always had two young women working for her with some older backups who covered for vacation days - trips back to China. I got to know these two providers very well. Both were very inexperienced when they first started working. One had descent CBJ skills. The second one (the one of which I speak) had no skills what so ever and trained under the first one. She was really cute though. Nice body and nice set that she got comfortable showing off over time. Lots of four hands with those two, it was great.
That's cool I don't believe it for one second. A girl who is giving bjs now even if not to All who see her. Never did it before!! Maybe if this were China and you saw her when she was 17 or 18. I'm not buying it.

But you obviously can believe it. As you already have.
 

Chiparlor

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As we know what this thread is about “Confused”

I am confused right now because as @VJLUTZ mentioned 4 key points and clearly stated that it varies on a case by case/person to person basis. I am repeating his points below and will add comments after his 4 points below.

1. Does she chat with you obsessively? [Including getting worried when you don't immediately respond and frequently asking for your picture.]
2. Does she fuck you for free outside the spa? Will she commute on a bus over an hour (there and back) out of her own pocket to fuck you for free?
3. Does she buy you expensive gifts w/o you asking or even making any material demands on you?
4. Does she regularly tell you she loves you?

I mentioned that I wanted a specific Chinese provider for a year (I will call her Yi) and she met criteria #1, 3, and 4. Not #2 and I moved on.

My current so, is okay for me to go to any legit parlors for regular massage. Yi bombed my phone in front of my so today. I told my so that it was Yi calling with messages. My so said to have a regular massage with Yi to calm her down. I made an appointment and met Yi at the parlor. She was very happy to see me, and this is the same provider who I give full hour massage sometimes. We caught up some news a little and I told her I am going to massage her. She insisted that she do the work, which I obliged.

During the massage, she admitted that she was very sorry for not taking me into consideration and wanted another chance. I brought up #2 during the session. She told me to flip. I flipped and she whispered in my ear and holding johnson saying that she will do it in a heartbeat. I took her hand off johnson and said too late now.

Let’s do regular massage for the rest of the session. She changed her usual massage technique, in my opinion, somewhat holding the pain and did subpar massage. I told her I can recommend three mongers I am close with for her to try them out. She said no. “Only You.” I heard that phrase “Only You” numerous times in the past from several different providers. I hugged her and said Good Luck!

In conclusion, I left the parlor confused!
 

VJLUTZ

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@Chiparlor - Perhaps a better way of stating #2 is: Will she fuck you for free outside the spa and go out of her way to do so? I used the "bus ride" as a metaphor because it is an example from personal experience. And, yes, the criteria does vary from person to person. Those are my criteria because it works for me. Others may have their own.

As far as your case, it seems like she was disappointed in your decision not to give her a second chance. She felt sad and, as a result, her massage was subpar.
 

Koujiao

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Yes I think she was hurt. I was being honest.
I think she was upset because she thought she controlled you and after realizing you had freed yourself, she was just finishing up the transaction.

Either way, you have a messy situation thatmseems self imposed.

As far as the 4 key points, they are cute and pretty generic, which VJ pointed out, but please dont base your life on something someone else came up with, you need some rules of your own. Otherwise you are following ideas of others, not leading yourself.
 

Yello Tail

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It is one of the mysteries of the universe. Sometimes these girls can be very inconsistent. I remember my experience at a now closed shop with a girl named Yoyo (who spoke zero English); it went like this:
Visit #4 - A little DFK, & mutual touching followed by CFS (with me providing the cover)
Visit #5 - Asked for Yoyo again, but ended up with the MMS herself. Apparently, Yoyo had been fired by the MMS when she found a used cover in the trash. Not sure if the cover was from me or someone else, but assumed it was me.
I bring a cover in, I take a cover out and dispose of it far away. (Unless it is a known fs place that will supply a cover, but I prefer my own).
 

East Lake II

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This thread would sell fast as a mans daters guide but it is a struggle what title to use. Advertise it in the latest on line magazine, "Modern Misogeny" with the article lead in, "Why I want a GFE But not a Girlfriend"

Article Title: Mens guide to women, all you need to know, by men who ___________

Pay for it?
Are emotionally damaged?
Have advice they cant follow?
Nothing like a dose of reality. Nice wake up call.
 

charliebrown

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I think she was upset because she thought she controlled you and after realizing you had freed yourself, she was just finishing up the transaction.

Either way, you have a messy situation thatmseems self imposed.

As far as the 4 key points, they are cute and pretty generic, which VJ pointed out, but please dont base your life on something someone else came up with, you need some rules of your own. Otherwise you are following ideas of others, not leading yourself.
Following ideas on this site is highly suspect
Following the word of Jesus, Mohammed, RamaKristna and/or Siddartha Gautama would never hurt you.
 

Chiparlor

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@Koujiao you are correct about vj's points. I did not use his points to make my decisions because I stated case by case/person by person basis. I already moved on while back before vj shared his points.

@kgmspa As I said she bombed my phone and my so encouraged me to see her to calm her down, which I did and I told her the truth in person.

In conclusion, I make decisions to write summary or dissertation. If you do not like neither of my summary and/or dissertation, skip my summary/dissertation. Doubt all you want because you were not in the room with us.
 

Koujiao

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Following ideas on this site is highly suspect
Following the word of Jesus, Mohammed, Ramakrishna and/or Siddartha Gautama would never hurt you.
The message with all of them is they urge you to become awakened, and each spent their 'time in the desert' taking their journey within themselves before they found their way to come out. All use literal devices to deliver their message, and some of them can be taken to literally.
 
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