Ever feel bad doing this?

[VJLUTZ]

The way the men were acting on stage was so idiotic and made men look like brainless sex machines.

I'll bet most AMP providers think this too. And we prove it every day by handing over our hard earned $$ to them (which they earn too). But like barbers are blessed that hair just keeps growing, they are thankful for our libidos. We can endlessly debate who is more mindless, the girls or us. We both are in our way. It depends on your perspective. We both show up at AMPs voluntarily and for our own reasons.

 

[Koujiao]

The way the men were acting on stage was so idiotic and made men look like brainless sex machines.

I'll bet most AMP providers think this too. And we prove it every day by handing over our hard earned $$ to them (which they earn too). But like barbers are blessed that hair just keeps growing, they are thankful for our libidos. We can endlessly debate who is more mindless, the girls or us. We both are in our way. It depends on your perspective. We both show up at AMPs voluntarily and for our own reasons.

You nailed it. There is no blame, unless it is self directed. A vice is a vice is a vice.

 

[JimS]

Then why even go to an AMP if you are not wanting their level of service. Go to Hand & Stone Massage, may be more what you are looking for. And better to be looking on Yelp vs this board.

CNJDAVE, There are more than the 2 extremes you mentioned (Hand & Stone, FS). Many mongers enjoy R&T, roaming (with and without provider nudity), and just the opportunity to be in a CFNM situation (either 2 or 4 hands), and not necessarily FS all the time. NONE OF WHICH you can get at Hand and Stone.

 

[Koujiao]

You’re very paranoid. I’ve been lurking for a while and this is the only place where you can talk about this stuff.

You are right, this topic shouldn't be off limits. Few here want to think about, let alone admit, that they once felt guilt, and gave into something stronger.

 

[Koujiao]

CNJDAVE, There are more than the 2 extremes you mentioned (Hand & Stone, FS). Many mongers enjoy R&T, roaming (with and without provider nudity), and just the opportunity to be in a CFNM situation (either 2 or 4 hands), and not necessarily FS all the time. NONE OF WHICH you can get at Hand and Stone.

But if it's name was Hand on Stone.....

 

[proxy123]

You are right, this topic shouldn't be off limits. Few here want to think about, let alone admit, that they once felt guilt, and gave into something stronger.

Yeah looks like some folks are kind of afraid of this conversation and can’t accept that I’m a real person thinking this. My head was in it at first, but I started feeling like trash halfway through I felt bad man.

 

[charliebrown]

NO!!! I am a gentleman and have never made a woman do something she did not want to do.

If you were in a hospital and needed physical therapy, or worse yet, body washes, bed pane service, feedings, etc, etc. would you feel guilty that someone was cleaning up after you?

Do you feel guilty when you go to a restaurant and make other people cook your food, clean your dishes and carry the food to your table?

Going to a massage parlor to get a massage is no different than any other service required by you thru the course of your life.

the fact that you have some extra income to afford this luxury might make you feel guilty. If this is the case, stop going and start handing over your hard earned money to a charity. Chances are the charity is run by a person pulling down 6 to seven figure salaries and indulging on the fruits of your labor.

 

[Koujiao]

NO!!! I am a gentleman and have never made a woman do something she did not want to do.

If you were in a hospital and needed physical therapy, or worse yet, body washes, bed pane service, feedings, etc, etc. would you feel guilty that someone was cleaning up after you?

Do you feel guilty when you go to a restaurant and make other people cook your food, clean your dishes and carry the food to your table?

Going to a massage parlor to get a massage is no different than any other service required by you thru the course of your life.

the fact that you have some extra income to afford this luxury might make you feel guilty. If this is the case, stop going and start handing over your hard earned money to a charity. Chances are the charity is run by a person pulling down 6 to seven figure salaries and indulging on the fruits of your labor.

Proxy can speak for himself but it sounds like it is as much about him not wanting to do what his money could afford and was used to convince a woman to do him.....vs. her doing it because she liked him enough to not charge.

Simplified, pay for sex doesn't work if you are looking for an emotional connection.

If you are, and pay for sex, you will pay later for your mistake

 

[charliebrown]

Proxy can speak for himself but it sounds like it is as much about him not wanting to do what his money could afford and was used to convince a woman to do him.....vs. her doing it because she liked him enough to not charge.

Simplified, pay for sex doesn't work if you are looking for an emotional connection.

If you are, and pay for sex, you will pay later for your mistake

I was speaking for myself and no one else. I do agree with you about paying for companionship.

 

[Koujiao]

I was speaking for myself and no one else. I do agree with you about paying for companionship.

I don't think anyone accused you of anything, but if they did, shame on them.

Proxy needs to decide where he is headed, he will end up there.

 

[hkpsp]

Interesting topic... Just moved to PA from NJ so was browsing the area.

I must say, I do think 1 or 2 times I did feel guilty... like "what was I doing here?" But then you realize that as someone else said... getting AMPs as an outlet, keeps you happier at home... yes, your needs are being met and you are not going to be stupid enough to leave your wife for one of the AMP girls.

Alternative? You can get it from someone you meet at the bar or online... but that opens up a whole new can of worms.

To me, at this point, I don't feel guilty about it because I know that it lets me focus on my relationship at home without feeling guilty she is holding out (kids, physically hurts, etc.)

As far as FS or not... first time FS yes I felt guilty and did not really enjoy it as much... after all, can get someone hotter and not have to pay them. lol. (but that opens up other problems we discussed above). After a few FS (unless provider is hot) I rather save the money and just get a good to great massage with basic service for a c note than spend more for not much more essentially.... and after you do it, do you even care how? lol. And now that I think of it... the most memorable sessions and the happiest results came from basic+ services and not FS.

 

[Koujiao]

Hey guys, so visited my first AMP this week. Saw Ruby at BSS and I’m not so sure this is for me. I’ve been feeling so guilty and I’ve been feeling really bad because I bolted before the session was over. Like I felt like I was being rude to her or something like that. I’m not trying to be judgemental, but it really makes me kind of sad that nice ladies like her have to do work like this and they probably don’t enjoy it and the guilt has been eating at me for days. Do you guys ever feel like this?

Proxy, read the forum to gleen what you can, in the end you have to arrive at your own decisions, not follow others.

Beware: The demon can't enter a person unless invited in, but once invited in, can go far beyond the original intention.

There are plenty of examples of this here and and elsewhere.

 

[VJLUTZ]

Beware: The demon can't enter a person unless invited in, but once invited in, can go far beyond the original intention.

Demon? I don't think so Tim. It's all about self control. Like any vice, this hobby can become an addiction. Best not to get carried away. If guilt is your ticket to maintaining your self control, so be it. It's better than the alternative.

 

[Honda55]

I would not take advice from anyone on here. But if I were you I would bareback every massage girl I could!

Wildcard bitches

 

[Koujiao]

Beware: The demon can't enter a person unless invited in, but once invited in, can go far beyond the original intention.

Demon? I don't think so Tim. It's all about self control. Like any vice, this hobby can become an addiction. Best not to get carried away. If guilt is your ticket to maintaining your self control, so be it. It's better than the alternative.

Who is Tim?

Agreed, lack of self control is the issue, once you open the door to the possibility. Call it lack of self control, demon, weak will, whatever makes you feel right. It can't happen unless you allow it, and once you do, where does it stop?

The Dybbuk.

 

[fffinster]

I've seen a room where the girls sleep in bedrolls on the floor (some were in the bedrolls). That kind of crap I don't like. I have not returned to New Century since I saw that. I want to have a girl that enjoys her job take care of me, not someone that is forced into servitude.

 

[VJLUTZ]

I've seen a room where the girls sleep in bedrolls on the floor (some were in the bedrolls). That kind of crap I don't like. I have not returned to New Century since I saw that. I want to have a girl that enjoys her job take care of me, not someone that is forced into servitude.

You will find girls do much of the same at many spas. I think your assumption that they are "forced into servitude" is false. These girls are effectively independent contractors. From what they've told me, they live the way they do to save money. I'm sure they could afford an Uber and a motel room every night if they wanted. They are usually at the spa for a month at a time and many never leave the spa, except for short shopping trips. They want to make as much as they can, spend as little as then can, go on vacation and wire most of their funds somewhere else (typically back home to their families). As Americans we are used to a high standard of living, but its quite different in most of the rest of the world.

 

[RickeyRomance]

Hey guys, so visited my first AMP this week. Saw Ruby at BSS and I’m not so sure this is for me. I’ve been feeling so guilty and I’ve been feeling really bad because I bolted before the session was over. Like I felt like I was being rude to her or something like that. I’m not trying to be judgemental, but it really makes me kind of sad that nice ladies like her have to do work like this and they probably don’t enjoy it and the guilt has been eating at me for days. Do you guys ever feel like this?

You seem like a good, thoughtful person and it may the case that this whole may not be for you and that's fine. It's definitely not for everyone.

There are definitely some women in this endeavor who do not want to be here. They may feel shame or regret or anger and I hope those women find greater happiness for their lives outside of all this. But I wouldn't ascribe that mindset to all of them. For some of them, it's just a job like any other. I'm sure a person doesn't WANT to work in a sewer around rats and feces all day but it's a job. It doesn't crush or destroy their soul or their humanity. They block out the stench and they get the job done and use the money to fuel their real life.

If anyone is being trafficked or harmed, that's terrible and I hope places like that get shut down. But if a woman really just wants to enhance her income with this work, she should have that right as well.

 

[fffinster]

You will find girls do much of the same at many spas. ... They want to make as much as they can, spend as little as then can, go on vacation and wire most of their funds somewhere else (typically back home to their families). As Americans we are used to a high standard of living, but its quite different in most of the rest of the world.

I hadn't thought of it this way. Thanks for the feedback!

 

[JayPh]

I only feel bad for spending my money.