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Mask or No Mask

LuvTheFlip

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Looks like the government has succeeded in driving yet another wedge between the population. Turning the people against each other. Neighbors and business spying on each other and calling the narc line. People doing exactly as they are told by the "experts" instead of doing their own independent research. Welcome to the new world order comrade. Personally I'm house hunting in Bonaire.
 

TGBeldin

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Looks like the government has succeeded in driving yet another wedge between the population. Turning the people against each other. Neighbors and business spying on each other and calling the narc line. People doing exactly as they are told by the "experts" instead of doing their own independent research. Welcome to the new world order comrade. Personally I'm house hunting in Bonaire.
Please take creepingdeath with you.
 

xxxooz

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FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DOMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Freedom to infect everyone else.... freedom to “Make America the Greatest” Covid-19 epicenter of the world... crawl back in your hole and do us all a favor “Mr. Free”.. or better yet go to Florida Texas or Arizona and express your “freedom “ there.. maybe you can take out a few”immigrants” in the process...LoL...You’re deplorable..
 

xxxooz

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I think I just got “censored” so much for “freerrdommm”!.. “Foxy move”.. thanks THB.. for the like.. LoL..
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Looks like the government has succeeded in driving yet another wedge between the population. Turning the people against each other. Neighbors and business spying on each other and calling the narc line. People doing exactly as they are told by the "experts" instead of doing their own independent research. Welcome to the new world order comrade. Personally I'm house hunting in Bonaire.
Hope you find the home of your dreams...just note that the Netherlands is a "Socialist" country... and it's government does work... Lol... A Social Paradise where you can finally be "Free"...Best wishes..
 

BigBob

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Remember this virus is transmitted by droplets. The cloth face coverings and surgical masks do nothing for the wearer. They only stop YOU from spreading anything. Only N 95 masks are for self protection. Face it we engage in a risky hobby, this is just another risk. If you get the virus you have a 99.8% chance of survival. We can't hide under the bed forever. And there's no way social distancing is gonna work. We're all gonna get it sooner or later. Might as well enjoy life.
Can you explain where you got this 99.8%? The math does not add up. Today's stats show 128k dead and 800k recovered. That's an 86% survival. Also, more important, by your not wearing a mask you are putting others, not just you at risk, so it's a sign of your disrespect for the people around you even- if you think that there is no risk to you.
 

BigBob

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I'd love to go to my usual parlor for a quality massage, teasing TS, and some intimate fun but would walk out if I was required to wear a mask for any of those activities. I'll wait and see what the early reviewers report first.
That's completely appropriate, just like any business that requires masks. If you do not want to wear it, you can return when no masks are required. Not unlike condom use.
I've accepted the fact that a condom is necessary for intercourse and oral in most cases but to hell with a mask. I only wear it in the store for short periods and even then I don't keep it over my nose.
Many stores ask you to cover your nose.
 

paco2888

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Hope you find the home of your dreams...just note that the Netherlands is a "Socialist" country... and it's government does work... Lol... A Social Paradise where you can finally be "Free"...Best wishes..
LOL! Are you even aware of the definition of the word? “Socialism is a political, social, and economic philosophyencompassing a range of economic and social systemscharacterised by social ownership of the means of production and workers' self-management of enterprises.” Last I checked, the Netherlands is still a market-based economy. It does provide more shared social services through higher taxation but it’s a far cry from Karl Marx’s dream...
 

Nedmerrill

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That's completely appropriate, just like any business that requires masks. If you do not want to wear it, you can return when no masks are required. Not unlike condom use.

Many stores ask you to cover your nose.
I've heard that from others but was at Macys over the weekend making a watch purchase talking with the salespeople, home depot, lowes, many supermarkets and other retail stores in the last several months and it's never been mentioned. Not even a concerned look from other shoppers.
 

TGBeldin

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Can you explain where you got this 99.8%? The math does not add up. Today's stats show 128k dead and 800k recovered. That's an 86% survival. Also, more important, by your not wearing a mask you are putting others, not just you at risk, so it's a sign of your disrespect for the people around you even- if you think that there is no risk to you.
Do not expect to make sense of the numbers. The number of infected has big error bars. The number of COVID deaths is almost certainly undercounted--but in some cases overcounted.

And then the anti-mask people will select the numbers they want.

The most basic number is: number of deaths from COVID. The number is not precise, but it is large. Even being large, some will essentially argue "Those people weren't me, so they don't really matter". An 86% recovery rate might make the never-maskers uncomfortable--and they are a sensitive lot.
 

david77

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Can you explain where you got this 99.8%? The math does not add up. Today's stats show 128k dead and 800k recovered. That's an 86% survival. Also, more important, by your not wearing a mask you are putting others, not just you at risk, so it's a sign of your disrespect for the people around you even- if you think that there is no risk to you.
I think 99.8 is wrong , it is actually 99.99%
 

watcher999

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Do not expect to make sense of the numbers. The number of infected has big error bars. The number of COVID deaths is almost certainly undercounted--but in some cases overcounted.

And then the anti-mask people will select the numbers they want.

The most basic number is: number of deaths from COVID. The number is not precise, but it is large. Even being large, some will essentially argue "Those people weren't me, so they don't really matter". An 86% recovery rate might make the never-maskers uncomfortable--and they are a sensitive lot.
You say the "anti-mask" people select the numbers they want, yet you don't provide a number for COVID deaths except to say it's "large". If it's so large then why not state what the number is? Do you know it or are you just selecting numbers you want? In actuality the number of cases is growing because of the increased testing that is being done which was to be expected, yet the number of deaths due to the disease has been and is still declining for awhile now.
 

TGBeldin

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Thet total number of deaths does not decline. Kind of hard to do.

My comment about the number being large is connected to the fact that the death count was corrupted early on (deaths were not counted as COVID deaths if they did not have a positive test before they died, even with symptoms) and still (now some are counted as COVID deaths even without a test, if there are symptoms). A lot depends upon where it is.

Therefore I do not believe too many significant figures on the number, plus by tomorrow any number I quote will be obsolite. That is why I said "large".
 

TGBeldin

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You say the "anti-mask" people select the numbers they want, yet you don't provide a number for COVID deaths except to say it's "large". If it's so large then why not state what the number is? Do you know it or are you just selecting numbers you want? In actuality the number of cases is growing because of the increased testing that is being done which was to be expected, yet the number of deaths due to the disease has been and is still declining for awhile now.
By the way, my "anti-mask" comment was directed at David who seems to make up a 99.99% stat just because it is what he would like to be true.
 

J n J

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Wow; fact checkers checking fact checkers checking facts. What's the difference if it's .049%, 4.9% or 49% if you don't wear a mask and get the virus and die you're still dead. That and how many people did you infect?
 

david77

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Based upon what? Wishful thinking?
Based on the percentage of people that had it, based on real testing from NY, so you can just put in this data for the whole world, i guess some places maybe less, but some places maybe more. it is also based on my own experience during the earlier month of FEB MAR and APR.

A. Based om the Data
On Apr 23th Gov Coumo announced based on the date and results 1 in 5 people in NY already had the virus as from sampling it shows 13.9 % percent tested positive for the antibodies and in NY City the rate is even higher at 21% percent , 13.9 % OF New Yorkers, The NY times wrote on Apr 23 that's about 2.7 Milllion New Yorkers.

So if you do the same calculations for the US, A population of 328 million, that is 45 millions only in the US alone,, but as of today Jun 30, the actual real figure of US cases is only 2.6 million.

now this data was from Apr 23rd, today is Jun 29th, so we probably have millions more infected.
just look in google search "1 in 5 new yorkers" or " 13.9 percent new york" this you will get lots of results just one of many articles link here
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-coronavirus-13-9-percent-coronavirus-antibodies-covid-19/

B. Based on my own experience.
I Had the virus early to middle MAR, i was around plenty of people and family prior of me knowing that i had it, i Also flew to London on Mar 1st and came back on Mar 9 , of all the people i was around no one got tested except one of my family member that is 75 yrs old., the reason why they didn't, because they didn't want to give the test than only if you showed serious symptoms like breathing problems only. i am 59 years , very healthy, so they didn't want to give me the test at first. the only reason why they gave me ok for the test was because my doctor recommended it, because i had a surgery on my throat , i had a abscess in my throat last year.

I Am not downgrading the seriousness of the virus, i am actually saying this virus is very catchy , if you live in NY example and you where in Restaurant, Train , plain or any store or park. or anywhere outside during Feb 15 thorough Mar 20 where most people didn't wear masks , you probably had it or you are immune to this.

you gotta also look back and think if you didn't feel good even just for a day or 2 in early 3 month of the year, there is a probability, that was the virus

what i am saying just , the virus is very catchy , but if you are healthy , a non smoker, not obese , not pregnant , don't need a Mask, even if you get it
it will be most likely just a very very light Flu.

so you make your decision , if you wanna enjoy life particular while getting a massage to wear or not wear a mask
 
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