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Mask or No Mask

david77

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You STILL don't want to get it. Them mask is NOT about protecting YOU, it is about protecting OTHERS.
Well i get it. there are some people that think like you, but there are others that think different, now 6 month into the virus , we already know the issue, you only want to wear a mask when you visit grandpa or grandma.
the people that are in high risk, need to wear a mask when they go out , and or to stay home , if they want to add extra protection, they can wear as shield too , and also gloves, and if they want more they can add a hazmat suit too,

We live in the USA , Live free or Die ..

if someone wants to visit a Gilf , i would advise to wear a Mask

a short story , walked by the park in park slope area last week at 90 degree heat, most people wear masks as it is usually in Clinton Countries, a couple walked by, not wearing a mask, another person shout out finally 2 normal people , than a couple others got smart and removed the mask too.

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Manted

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I think I just got “censored” so much for “freerrdommou were taking this whole too serious. It's always to make your point and leave the conversation. The more you linger on, the more argumentative it gets. We're here to comment on AMP.s and have some fun. m”!.. “Foxy move”.. thanks THB.. for the like.. LoL..
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Well i get it. there are some people that think like you, but there are others that think different, now 6 month into the virus , we already know the issue, you only want to wear a mask when you visit grandpa or grandma.
the people that are in high risk, need to wear a mask when they go out , and or to stay home , if they want to add extra protection, they can wear as shield too , and also gloves, and if they want more they can add a hazmat suit too,

We live in the USA , Live free or Die ..

if someone wants to visit a Gilf , i would advise to wear a Mask

a short story , walked by the park in park slope area last week at 90 degree heat, most people wear masks as it is usually in Clinton Countries, a couple walked by, not wearing a mask, another person shout out finally 2 normal people , than a couple others got smart and removed the mask too.

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You really didn't get it!! The mask does not protect the one who wears it, it protects the people they are in contact with.
 

TGBeldin

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Well i get it. there are some people that think like you, but there are others that think different, now 6 month into the virus , we already know the issue, you only want to wear a mask when you visit grandpa or grandma.
the people that are in high risk, need to wear a mask when they go out , and or to stay home , if they want to add extra protection, they can wear as shield too , and also gloves, and if they want more they can add a hazmat suit too,

We live in the USA , Live free or Die ..

if someone wants to visit a Gilf , i would advise to wear a Mask

a short story , walked by the park in park slope area last week at 90 degree heat, most people wear masks as it is usually in Clinton Countries, a couple walked by, not wearing a mask, another person shout out finally 2 normal people , than a couple others got smart and removed the mask too.

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At this point I can o ly assume you are intentionally stupid.

Basic physics and basic biology say you are wrong, and your completely out of context "Live Free or Die" comment reaffirms what you are. Sadly there is no way to quarentine the stupid and selfish for the sake of the majority.
 

david77

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At this point I can o ly assume you are intentionally stupid.

Basic physics and basic biology say you are wrong, and your completely out of context "Live Free or Die" comment reaffirms what you are. Sadly there is no way to quarentine the stupid and selfish for the sake of the majority.
Oh well that is just your philosophy, and I am not going that way in calling names, stupid, selfish.
So sad of you
 

J n J

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I'm fully aware that a mask is not for the monger's's protection but for those around him and those that think otherwise are misinterpreting the facts. The providers that are insisting that you wear a mask are doing so for their protection not yours. ie. if they require that you wear a cover it's to protect them, they could give a "rat's ass" about you. To each his own, I plan on going this week and not wearing a mask unless they insist.
 

david77

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You are the one who decides not to protect others, but I am sad.

Right.
My point was we are 6 month into the virus, so we know exactly who needs to be protected or not . Sure if its a new virus and we don't yet whats all about, I am ready to protect others.
Also we are talking here about Amp, so it is not up to me thinking I have to protect her , while she is taking my money, if I have to protect her , I would rather just give her the amount without getting a massage, if she wants to help her out with what ever she needs the money for, tuition, kids,rent ,i am a nice guy and generous help out plenty of people, you can also see another post I posted regarding as/pp today
 

david77

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I'm fully aware that a mask is not for the monger's's protection but for those around him and those that think otherwise are misinterpreting the facts. The providers that are insisting that you wear a mask are doing so for their protection not yours. ie. if they require that you wear a cover it's to protect them, they could give a "rat's ass" about you. To each his own, I plan on going this week and not wearing a mask unless they insist.
You are 100% correct JJ, I would also add, you seem like you are not into masks, if they insist I suggest you walk, I went to one place last weekend, to a Russian place dont want to write which one,but there was no masks around, not on any of the girls and on me
 

J n J

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By walking into a AMP we/me are taking our chases. Covid is not the worst HIV, ie is imo worst. Before you walk through the door understand your chases of getting sick and are you are willing to except the conquests. I've been dodging the bullet for many yrs sooner or later it's going to get me but I'll have a smile on my face.
 

BigBob

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Based on the percentage of people that had it, based on real testing from NY, so you can just put in this data for the whole world, i guess some places maybe less, but some places maybe more. it is also based on my own experience during the earlier month of FEB MAR and APR.

A. Based om the Data
On Apr 23th Gov Coumo announced based on the date and results 1 in 5 people in NY already had the virus as from sampling it shows 13.9 % percent tested positive for the antibodies and in NY City the rate is even higher at 21% percent , 13.9 % OF New Yorkers, The NY times wrote on Apr 23 that's about 2.7 Milllion New Yorkers.

So if you do the same calculations for the US, A population of 328 million, that is 45 millions only in the US alone,, but as of today Jun 30, the actual real figure of US cases is only 2.6 million.

now this data was from Apr 23rd, today is Jun 29th, so we probably have millions more infected.
just look in google search "1 in 5 new yorkers" or " 13.9 percent new york" this you will get lots of results just one of many articles link here
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-coronavirus-13-9-percent-coronavirus-antibodies-covid-19/

B. Based on my own experience.
I Had the virus early to middle MAR, i was around plenty of people and family prior of me knowing that i had it, i Also flew to London on Mar 1st and came back on Mar 9 , of all the people i was around no one got tested except one of my family member that is 75 yrs old., the reason why they didn't, because they didn't want to give the test than only if you showed serious symptoms like breathing problems only. i am 59 years , very healthy, so they didn't want to give me the test at first. the only reason why they gave me ok for the test was because my doctor recommended it, because i had a surgery on my throat , i had a abscess in my throat last year.

I Am not downgrading the seriousness of the virus, i am actually saying this virus is very catchy , if you live in NY example and you where in Restaurant, Train , plain or any store or park. or anywhere outside during Feb 15 thorough Mar 20 where most people didn't wear masks , you probably had it or you are immune to this.

you gotta also look back and think if you didn't feel good even just for a day or 2 in early 3 month of the year, there is a probability, that was the virus

what i am saying just , the virus is very catchy , but if you are healthy , a non smoker, not obese , not pregnant , don't need a Mask, even if you get it
it will be most likely just a very very light Flu.

so you make your decision , if you wanna enjoy life particular while getting a massage to wear or not wear a mask
I'm sorry, but what you said does not agree with the factual numbers of the documented COVID recovery vs the number of documented COVID deaths. That shows 86% survival. Yes there is some level of uncertainty around that, so if that level is 14% uncertainty (to bring it to your 100% survial number), then that HAS TO also mean that the survival rate can be as low as 72% (so the real survival rate is between 72 and 100).
Also you say, "Most likely just a very very light Flu", UNLESS IT'S NOT... Anecdotally I personally know people that had it with almost no symptoms and some that have died (48 year old healthy looking former colleague)
Ultimately its a sign of respect for others to keep your mask on to protect them - even if you think that the risk is too low for you. Just be respectful.
 

david77

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I'm sorry, but what you said does not agree with the factual numbers of the documented COVID recovery vs the number of documented COVID deaths. That shows 86% survival. Yes there is some level of uncertainty around that, so if that level is 14% uncertainty (to bring it to your 100% survial number), then that HAS TO also mean that the survival rate can be as low as 72% (so the real survival rate is between 72 and 100).
Also you say, "Most likely just a very very light Flu", UNLESS IT'S NOT... Anecdotally I personally know people that had it with almost no symptoms and some that have died (48 year old healthy looking former colleague)
Ultimately its a sign of respect for others to keep your mask on to protect them - even if you think that the risk is too low for you. Just be respectful.
I am not going to argue about your facts, if i walk on the street i don't wear a mask, if i go into a place that requires a face i put on, if they don't require i don't.
I travel often, in larger populated areas on the east coast. i see lots of people wearing masks, in most other areas, you got walk 20 miles to find a Masked person, in some areas as i just came back from a medium size town in CT close to border of MA , there was not too many masks.

Regarding AMP, as i am the paying customer, I am paying for a Service , so i just feel there should not be a issue with not wearing one. it should be the customers choice.
 

J n J

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By walking into a AMP we/me are taking our chases. Covid is not the worst HIV, ie is imo worst. Before you walk through the door understand your chases of getting sick and are you are willing to except the conquests. I've been dodging the bullet for many yrs sooner or later it's going to get me but I'll have a smile on my face.
Sorry for the typo meant to say chances not chases
 

TGBeldin

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I am not going to argue about your facts, if i walk on the street i don't wear a mask, if i go into a place that requires a face i put on, if they don't require i don't.
I travel often, in larger populated areas on the east coast. i see lots of people wearing masks, in most other areas, you got walk 20 miles to find a Masked person, in some areas as i just came back from a medium size town in CT close to border of MA , there was not too many masks.

Regarding AMP, as i am the paying customer, I am paying for a Service , so i just feel there should not be a issue with not wearing one. it should be the customers choice.
So it should be the customer's choice to go into a restaurant barefoot and with no shirt?

No, if i own a business I should have the right to not serve anyone I don't want to serve. Isn't that a basic RW belief--at least when it comes to gay wedding cakes.

It is amazing how both RW and LW have flipped their stance on the mask issue so completely. Basic core principles don't seem to matter in some cases it seems.
 

Nedmerrill

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I am not going to argue about your facts, if i walk on the street i don't wear a mask, if i go into a place that requires a face i put on, if they don't require i don't.
I travel often, in larger populated areas on the east coast. i see lots of people wearing masks, in most other areas, you got walk 20 miles to find a Masked person, in some areas as i just came back from a medium size town in CT close to border of MA , there was not too many masks.

Regarding AMP, as i am the paying customer, I am paying for a Service , so i just feel there should not be a issue with not wearing one. it should be the customers choice.
I agree with much of what you said. I dont wear a mask outdoors . As far as I'm concerned the provider has the right to require me to wear a mask however I wont wear one hence for the time being I'll stick with places with no such rule.
 

david77

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So it should be the customer's choice to go into a restaurant barefoot and with no shirt?

No, if i own a business I should have the right to not serve anyone I don't want to serve. Isn't that a basic RW belief--at least when it comes to gay wedding cakes.

It is amazing how both RW and LW have flipped their stance on the mask issue so completely. Basic core principles don't seem to matter in some cases it seems.
I get your point about restaurant
i was just thinking about a restaurant too, but was thinking comparing AMP to restaurant, its like you coming in to a restaurant and they welcome you
give you a nice table , than they tell you you must wear a mask while you eat.
if someone is going just for a strictly therapeutic massage, I understand it is OK for her to wear or to ask you to wear a mask.
but lets face it, we are going for the message plus the extra, and that's what we are paying, so it should be up to us if we want to wear a mask or if she should wear
a mask or not.
 
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