NYC - "People are returning in droves"

[Iggy2pops]

When you look at the statistics they’re totally skewed. You had 150 murders to Chicago and it goes up 8%. You had to murders to small towns it goes up 30%. That’s the difference to me

Ok Scott. Move to Ogdensburg. I’ll happily stay here.

 

[mccovey]

Given your mention of 9th ave I will guess you are referring to my comment.
I used to hang out at the Triple Treat theater on 8th & 42 till all hours. Saw lots of famous porn girls there.
I used to pick up streetwalkers after 4 AM on 11th Ave back in the 80s and take them to the Liberty Inn, and sometimes the Evans or the Ivanhoe.
I'd pick them up on Park Ave too and take them to a crappy hotel on 34th near 3rd. Don't remember the name.
So yeah, I walked around plenty in shitty areas late at night prior to 1995.
I never used the word "scary". I did use the word "crap" implying "crappy".
I prefer the NYC from 93 to 2012. It's crappier here now.

When they ran the hookers off the street in Manhattan, it forced me start using brothels, agencies and AMPs.

I believe the hotel you were talking about may have been the Senton . I knew that area around there too - Show World was the main theater. I used the Liberty a couple times too for the west side crowd but preferred the Lexington/Park area . Same thing for me and friends - went from street to AMPS and brothels which we referred to as the apartments . You are spot on - it had a crappy vibe but we never considered it dangerous , nor did we ever have a bad experience .

 

[Iggy2pops]

I believe the hotel you were talking about may have been the Senton . I knew that area around there too - Show World was the main theater. I used the Liberty a couple times too for the west side crowd but preferred the Lexington/Park area . Same thing for me and friends - went from street to AMPS and brothels which we referred to as the apartments . You are spot on - it had a crappy vibe but we never considered it dangerous , nor did we ever have a bad experience .

You guys were upscale. I was an Elk Hotel man...

 

[AutomaticSlim]

You guys were upscale. I was an Elk Hotel man...

The Elk and the Ivanhoe were actually the same location.
I suppose the name changed when it was sold.

There was another hotel near Baruch college on Lexington near 25th.
The "Holland" or something?
That place was one of the worst.

 

[Iggy2pops]

The Casablanca on 145 where Knick legend Dean Meminger died is still open!

 

[davidfl]

At higher rates than 2019.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-city-people-moving-back-vaccines-rise-economy-reopens-2021-5

The only thing I see what's coming back in droves is more crime and more homeless, i used to frequent lears , desires and other incall agencies, now
I don't go to the city anymore as I got harrssed not once but twice, i go to MBV and TDT AND similar agencies in NJ and CT . i would admit queens , Staten island and Brooklyn is better so perhaps some people are coming back.

 

[mccovey]

The Elk and the Ivanhoe were actually the same location.
I suppose the name changed when it was sold.

There was another hotel near Baruch college on Lexington near 25th.
The "Holland" or something?
That place was one of the worst.

I don’t remember using the Elk or Ivanhoe , or the Holland . The Senton wasn’t bad for what it was - for the amount of times my friend and I were in the city back then , it was a miracle our cars never got vandalized . On the pornstar note , I remember hanging in a burlesque type strip club on 46th , leaving and seeing some sort of a X- movie premier at a nearby theater . We went in - saw Annette Haven and a few others who were taking pictures with patrons and autographing the photos - no cost - came with the movie price . Then saw the movie- High School Memories was the movie - she was a tiny really cute brunette and super nice

 

[AutomaticSlim]

I don’t remember using the Elk or Ivanhoe , or the Holland . The Senton wasn’t bad for what it was - for the amount of times my friend and I were in the city back then , it was a miracle our cars never got vandalized . On the pornstar note , I remember hanging in a burlesque type strip club on 46th , leaving and seeing some sort of a X- movie premier at a nearby theater . We went in - saw Annette Haven and a few others who were taking pictures with patrons and autographing the photos - no cost - came with the movie price . Then saw the movie- High School Memories was the movie - she was a tiny really cute brunette and super nice

I saw so many at the Triple Treat.
Tish Ambrose
Lois Ayres
Megan Leigh (rip)
Trinity Loren (rip)
Sharon Mitchell
Nina Hartley
Cara Lott
And so many more.
Oh, and that damn Robin Bird on too many occasions.

 

[Iggy2pops]

I saw so many at the Triple Treat.
Tish Ambrose
Lois Ayres
Megan Leigh (rip)
Trinity Loren (rip)
Sharon Mitchell
Nina Hartley
Cara Lott
And so many more.
Oh, and that damn Robin Bird on too many occasions.

Triple treat was alright but I really miss the degenerate movie theatre on 42 next to the old Carter Hotel bus depot that had Brazilian mamis servicing any takers in the downstairs restrooms..... even better than the Peep Booths that had ladies giving handies through the windowless windows. Makes me kinda hope things get “really bad” again

 

[Nycguy31]

"Refund" to what, choke people out in their own neighborhood? Shoot them 40 something times because they mistook a wallet for gun? Sexually assault them in the precinct? Shoot them the night before their wedding? Call for 12 officers to hold down a single compliant person without explaining what they're being detained for? Videogame punch a teenager on a subway platform?

These aren't problems that necessitate a militarized state force. The police haven't actually been defunded, at least not in the way proponents want and the way cop apologists think had happened, and some of the people on the streets were released from jail or shelters due to Covid concerns, not anything to do with the movement against police abuse.

The police are a convenient broom and dustpan for difficult societal issues and I question anyone participating in this patently illegal lifestyle cosigning their empowerment

Entirely agree. Can't help but wonder about all those cops who also decided to simply not do their jobs and "let it happen" as a form of silent protest against "Defund the Police."

 

[doofu77]

Trains and subways are not crowded yet. Still has empty space every other seat and people are not on top of each other yet.

traffic on the other hand is getting pretty shitty during rush hour leaving the city again.

Probably related. Some people are opting to drive over taking subways.

 

[Stern33]

i walk through times sq every day to and from work...three months ago it was a ghost town. Now it’s getting crowded. Still maybe 50% of what it should be, but def more people.

Ghost town is a.....bit of an exaggeration I've lived in Pitt and Tampa before the pandemic and it was still more crowded then an average day there. It's all relative. By comparison to normal though yeah it was quite reduced.