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Talo

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Its not that common from what I've seen. Granted I havent seen much of the entire seen as I'm only one monger but been doing this a while and have made friends with indis, MMS and others that run agencies. Learned enough to know that most heavily depend on repeat clients and not new business which means that the hobby is sustained by a relatively small group of the general pop.

Side note, I'm also almost 100% convinced that those actively participating in online forums are a small minority within the mongering population. This is also from discussions I've had with providers and manager. Mostly though I just look at how many providers and agencies thrive for years with terrible reviews, threads and reputations online, just a quick Google search away.
 

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US probably not that common. My gut tells me 2-4% of the population but I’m pulling that out of thin air to be honest honest. Other countries like South Korea or Amsterdam for example I’ve been told by some friends who’ve been to those countries that most men have seen a provider at least once in their life.
 

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It’s surprisingly uncommon here. When I spent time in Vietnam and thailand, it just seems that everyone hobbies. That’s why it’s such a thriving business even if it’s not completely legal in some parts (completely legal in singapore btw, some of my best years). Culturally it’s even tolerated by spouses.
 

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I feel like I’ve actually realized the opposite. I keep discovering that most of the men I meet in life have mongered at least once. I have family members that have mongered. My best friends monger with me. I even work for Jews that I know for a fact are cheating on their frumpy wives with providers in my neighborhood. But that just might be my close circle of people lol.
 

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would be interesting stats to look over. but i doubt many of us would openly admit to it. for me hobbying is completely classified.
 

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I think it depends on where you live and your ethnic background. I'm Korean and I think up to half of my Asian buddies here in NYC have been to an AMP at least once. It helps that this is common in our motherland and there's a decent supply here.
 

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I think it depends on where you live and your ethnic background. I'm Korean and I think up to half of my Asian buddies here in NYC have been to an AMP at least once. It helps that this is common in our motherland and there's a decent supply here.
As far as I know, I'm in the opposite situation
All the Asian Americans are either taken or are/were church goers, so I wouldn't expect any of them to hobby
I only know of one Korean who ended up with a bar girl
 

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Only a guess here, but I would agree with most of the responses and say not that common.
Most of the guys I know and have known just would not pull the trigger on going to an escort.
To me, it was simply never that big of a deal, but to most other guys it really is a big deal.
They need to be "wanted". :rolleyes:
To them, an escort is something they experience maybe once at their bachelor party, and even then only because their friends expected it of them and they are near blackout drunk.
 

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Only a guess here, but I would agree with most of the responses and say not that common.
Most of the guys I know and have known just would not pull the trigger on going to an escort.
To me, it was simply never that big of a deal, but to most other guys it really is a big deal.
They need to be "wanted". :rolleyes:
To them, an escort is something they experience maybe once at their bachelor party, and even then only because their friends expected it of them and they are near blackout drunk.
That's another thing in these parts. It's not a culturally accepted practice and it's not just feel of the consequences or respect for the rules, although that is huge. At least as I was growing up, I felt like American society taught that the trick is on the guy. Part of the message was that this activity was in the vein of willfull emasculation. That it is suppose to be free, whether that's with the hag leftovers at the bar/club at the end of the night or with anyone willing in general. So if you were doing this then you weren't man enough to get it on your own. Did anyone else feel that same growing up?

Growing up the older men in my family and social circles were from a different generation in a different world, they sought out experts after they had gotten tired of the wives, several girl friends and side chicks and just needed something else. It was like going to the dentist or something for them. Also not all were like that, for many it was an absolute sin to do anything out of wedlock, but those that did weren't bashful about it. Rules may have been acknowledged or accepted but hardly anyone viewed them as real rules. This is an activity as old as time after all so I don't think anyone viewed the rules as practal or worth the time to think about.
 

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Oh and another thing the evidences how uncommon it is just look at some of the other major metro markets around the US. Only in a few markets LA, SanFran, Miami, and maybe a few others do you see a large amount of advertisers. For the most part though no matter what ad site you look at the number of ads drop off a cliff. Once you leave those metro markets.
 

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That's another thing in these parts. It's not a culturally accepted practice and it's not just feel of the consequences or respect for the rules, although that is huge. At least as I was growing up, I felt like American society taught that the trick is on the guy. Part of the message was that this activity was in the vein of willfull emasculation. That it is suppose to be free, whether that's with the hag leftovers at the bar/club at the end of the night or with anyone willing in general. So if you were doing this then you weren't man enough to get it on your own. Did anyone else feel that same growing up?

Growing up the older men in my family and social circles were from a different generation in a different world, they sought out experts after they had gotten tired of the wives, several girl friends and side chicks and just needed something else. It was like going to the dentist or something for them. Also not all were like that, for many it was an absolute sin to do anything out of wedlock, but those that did weren't bashful about it. Rules may have been acknowledged or accepted but hardly anyone viewed them as real rules. This is an activity as old as time after all so I don't think anyone viewed the rules as practal or worth the time to think about.

1) 100% yes, agree. The "friends" I had when I started doing this at 19/20 y/o absolutely looked down on me for going to hookers. Meanwhile, they were mostly alone and whacking off. A few had girlfriends, but those girls were 4s and 5s at best -- girls I wouldn't touch.

2) Again, same thing I saw. My father had mistresses. I am CERTAIN he would have had a BIG problem with what I do, had I told him.
 

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1) 100% yes, agree. The "friends" I had when I started doing this at 19/20 y/o absolutely looked down on me for going to hookers. Meanwhile, they were mostly alone and whacking off. A few had girlfriends, but those girls were 4s and 5s at best -- girls I wouldn't touch.
Very good point!

When I first started to become familiar with this sub-culture and speak vaguely to gals about their clientele (I never initiated it, they did), one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind was -why the hell should only average Joe's have such liberal and unbridled access to very attractive/ sexually gifted gals?

The gals I've spoken to have articulated that there is a "certain type" of guy who partakes in this world.

The social stigma/ illegality/ "moral corruptness" of it all really does disbar a lot of guys from partaking in America. The few guys that I know who have admitted to visiting with escorts, do so exclusively when they're abroad (e.g., Amsterdam, Thailand) and not at home-base.

Guys who have the willingness to overcome the social stigma, illegality and "moral corruptness" factors just might be of a special ilk. For foreign-born guys who come from a culture where it is more accepted, then "moral corruptness" and potentially social stigma may be non-factors, but they are still tasked with overcoming the illegality factor if partaking in America, so it may disbar some foreign-born for that reason alone.
 

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Very good point!

When I first started to become familiar with this sub-culture and speak vaguely to gals about their clientele (I never initiated it, they did), one of the first thoughts that crossed my mind was -why the hell should only average Joe's have such liberal and unbridled access to very attractive/ sexually gifted gals?

The gals I've spoken to have articulated that there is a "certain type" of guy who partakes in this world.

The social stigma/ illegality/ "moral corruptness" of it all really does disbar a lot of guys from partaking in America. The few guys that I know who have admitted to visiting with escorts, do so exclusively when they're abroad (e.g., Amsterdam, Thailand) and not at home-base.

Guys who have the willingness to overcome the social stigma, illegality and "moral corruptness" factors just might be of a special ilk. For foreign-born guys who come from a culture where it is more accepted, then "moral corruptness" and potentially social stigma may be non-factors, but they are still tasked with overcoming the illegality factor if partaking in America, so it may disbar some foreign-born for that reason alone.
Though - SW Twitter (i.e., lower barrier to entry) has likely expanded the market share of guys who partake.
 

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Though - SW Twitter (i.e., lower barrier to entry) has likely expanded the market share of guys who partake.
Oh yes, there is at least one additional factor - guys also have to overcome the "disgust" factor of seeing a gal who has many sex partners and potentially having had sex with another random guy that she knows very little about just minutes before having sex with you. I think this is a big issue that many guys can't wrap their heads around - I couldn't for a long time (and had to think strategically about how I time my appointments just to minimize the saliency of this factor for myself).
 

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It took me about half a year, but I finally got over it lol.
My one saving grace has been stumbling on and sticking with low volume spots. If they seem to always be available when you need them and never have conflicts when you arrive, then there is a good chance of low volume. That's helped me out a lot because I know even if I miss the first slot there is a good chance no appointments were were maid even upto 3rd hour of the day.
 

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My one saving grace has been stumbling on and sticking with low volume spots. If they seem to always be available when you need them and never have conflicts when you arrive, then there is a good chance of low volume. That's helped me out a lot because I know even if I miss the first slot there is a good chance no appointments were were maid even upto 3rd hour of the day.
At least the AMP/ AAMP NYC scene is not the cesspool that LA's is.

In LA, BBFS/ CIP is widespread and openly advertised with high-volume FOB gals at under $$$. I know guys rave about the K-gal scene in LA, but it does beg the question - How screwed up in the head must a gal be to work in that type of environment?
 

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At least the AMP/ AAMP NYC scene is not the cesspool that LA's is.

In LA, BBFS/ CIP is widespread and openly advertised with high-volume FOB gals at under $$$. I know guys rave about the K-gal scene in LA, but it does beg the question - How screwed up in the head must a gal be to work in that type of environment?
Some of that scene is here too, chinese.
Some of these girls are very screwed up $ or in denial. Just look at the litle cups of salt on the floor by the doors to ward off bad luck.
 
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