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2023/2024 Covid Lockdown

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I’ve been reading that the President wants to lockdown the country again this winter due to a variant from Canada. Who knows what to believe anymore. If the country goes into full lockdown mode does this mean hobbying will pause? I don’t remember if most agencies closed up temporarily back in 2020.

This is not a reputable news outlet. I’d say to completely ignore anything that comes from that outlet
 

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Though not much surprises me anymore, I'd be shocked if the Government tries to push a full blown lockdown in an election year. I'd also think (hope) there would be a lot of pushback, and outrage, to that from the majority. A lot of us are still very sore from the butt-fucking we had to experience in 2020-2022. I know I am. And almost none of the "experts" were right about jack squat. That being said, I do know some people who have COVID nostalgia. They secretly loved the lockdowns, getting vaccinated 4X a year, and miss working from home and being told to do by government experts. Fuck 'em all.
 

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Its not a variant from canada, the cases have been slowly rising for months upon months but no one pays attention. Everyone seemed to think a mutating virus suddenly went extinct, because your fav news channel stopped talking about it.

Then again your getting your info from info wars that, says enough
 

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If i remember correctly it was two weeks or a week ago that they finally found one, only ONE case od the new strain od the virus in the entire country, and of course it was in Quebec, so for anyone to insinuate that it might lead to a lockdown in a few months is what i hate about these people
 

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The worst of the Covid nostalgia crowd are those who love wearing the masks. I still see people around wearing them. These useful idiots cling to their mask like Linus did to his blanket. Evidence that masks do more harm than good does not seem to matter to them. They feel safe wearing the mask because someone in Authority told them to wear a mask (once).

I also feel genuinely sorry for people in service fields whose company still makes them wear their mask (including some spas). I always tell them first thing that it's okay by me if they take it off. Often they do.
 

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dunno why you'd take anything alex jones says seriously.
On one hand, I definitely agree that Alex Jones has no real credibility with his specific pronouncements and "bulletins".

On the other hand, I think his general premise is spot on. That is, there are many in Government, Big Pharma, the Health bureaucracy and the Media (which I'll collectively refer to as the Nanny State) who would love to have another lockdown and miss the previous one. I don't put these in the same category as the pathetic Covid Nostalgia crowd (who are just useful idiots). Rather, the motivations of those in the Nanny State are much more rational; that is: Money and Power. Big Pharma obviously made a shit-ton of money from the Covid vaccines and they are apparently lawsuit proof. Likewise, lots of people in Government got to wield emergency powers and many were all too happy to bow down to them. Media ratings skyrocked during Covid as they scared-the-living-daylights out of people. Many health experts became media whores who would spout any nonsense if you stuck a microphone in their face. And too many rank-and-file health professionals stopped being professionals and became the de-facto Gestapo for the Nanny State. Granted that some of them did so out of fear that their licenses would be revoked if they contradicted the Powers-that-Be, but I just can't abide collaborators.

For most of us, the whole Covid thing was a disgusting, destructive farce. It will probably take years before we have a handle on how much damage was done to American society and culture. At this point, I've have pretty much lost faith in most of our institutions and nearly all Health "experts". But, regardless, you can just feel that the Nanny State crowd that perpetrated this disaster is just itching to be in the driver's seat again. If nothing else, they want their money and power back. Plus, I'm sure they also want to see how far they can push the boundaries next time.
 

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The worst of the Covid nostalgia crowd are those who love wearing the masks. I still see people around wearing them. These useful idiots cling to their mask like Linus did to his blanket. Evidence that masks do more harm than good does not seem to matter to them. They feel safe wearing the mask because someone in Authority told them to wear a mask (once).

I also feel genuinely sorry for people in service fields whose company still makes them wear their mask (including some spas). I always tell them first thing that it's okay by me if they take it off. Often they do.
I am a useful idiot, i take public transportation, i am.constantly in confined spaces with people who have poor hygiene, and have no idea how much germs they are transmitting whrn they cough in someone face, or when they spit,or dig in their noses,nor do they care.
Those are the "normal" people, we have so many homeless, or drug addicted people on said trains and sometimes buses, spreading their body fluids everywhere and also coughing and spitting and throwing up.
No a mask by ITSELF will not totally protect you, it is a helpful barrier.
if one does not like it, or thinks because studies say it does not protect you 100% then it is useless,very good, i hope you keep the same energy with Condoms, Seatbelts, Helmets, and all other safety devices.


I genuinely feel sorry for people with compromised immune systems who have no choice but to wear a mask because contracting even a common cold is very much a life anf death thing.
On the good side they do not have to worry about inconsiderate people calling them idiots when trying to stay alive and live a normal enough life is paramount.
 

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I think lockdowns like we saw in 2020-2021 are very unlikely. The only way I could see it happening would be if a really deadly variant were to emerge and hospitalizations went through the roof. If that were to happen, then all bets are off. As things stand currently, I don't see much in the way of covid restrictions happening. For one thing, they really don't work that well. If they had worked well then 75/80% of Americans wouldn't have eventually gotten Covid. I agree that there were a lot of groups that liked the Covid era restrictions (politicians, media, big pharma, big tech, department of health, etc.) but most people don't hang on their every word like they did in April/May 2020. The reality is that the world was a better place before Covid hit in 2020, it's one more illness to deal with. It sucks but we are learning to live with it just like we live with all kind of other diseases.

In terms of agencies and AMPs, many closed from April through June 2020 but by the summer of 2020 they were up and running again. By the fall of 2020 things were pretty much back to normal, except the girls would wear masks at some of the spas, which sucked.
 

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I genuinely feel sorry for people with compromised immune systems who have no choice but to wear a mask because contracting even a common cold is very much a life anf death thing. On the good side they do not have to worry about inconsiderate people calling them idiots when trying to stay alive and live a normal enough life is paramount.
Prior to Covid, I almost never saw anyone outside a hospital wearing a mask (maybe some Asian tourists). Now, if I had to put a number of it, I'd say maybe 2-3% do on a regular basis; more like 5-10% when I take an airplane. And I have talked to some of these people. They wear masks because they are still scared of Covid, no other reason. However, there have been many articles since the mask mandate about the utility of masks. Overall, the bad effects of masks far outweighs the good. That is definitely something that distinguishes masks from things like seatbelts and helmets.

I don't live in the city, so I generally don't have to deal with homeless, drug addicts or similar. But even if one did, keep in mind that the human immune system is an extremely robust thing. It evolved when humans were living in caves with no concept of good hygiene (except maybe an aversion to the smell of shit). Only a tiny percentage of people have their immune systems compromised to the point that a mask is helpful. In fact, being around germs helps the immune system. A good friend of mine works with wastewater and he insists that has made his immune system rock solid.

And just for the record, I almost never call someone an idiot to their face. And that includes people still masking up. It is inconsiderate and rarely wins the argument. But like everyone else, we can think it.
 

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keep in mind that the human immune system is an extremely robust thing. It evolved when humans were living in caves with no concept of good hygiene (except maybe an aversion to the smell of shit). Only a tiny percentage of people have their immune systems compromised to the point that a mask is helpful. In fact, being around germs helps the immune system. A good friend of mine works with wastewater and he insists that has made his immune system rock solid.
A thousand times, this. The more germs you are exposed to, the less dangerous they become to you. I see people using sanitizing wipes on shopping carts like they want to live in a bubble. Better to get a little bit of a germ, expose it to your immune system so it can learn what it is and how to fight it off so later when you are possibly exposed to a lot of that germ, your body will be prepared. Sanitizing everything leaves you with an un-schooled immune system and more vulnerable to attack.
 

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Prior to Covid, I almost never saw anyone outside a hospital wearing a mask (maybe some Asian tourists). Now, if I had to put a number of it, I'd say maybe 2-3% do on a regular basis; more like 5-10% when I take an airplane. And I have talked to some of these people. They wear masks because they are still scared of Covid, no other reason. However, there have been many articles since the mask mandate about the utility of masks. Overall, the bad effects of masks far outweighs the good. That is definitely something that distinguishes masks from things like seatbelts and helmets.

I don't live in the city, so I generally don't have to deal with homeless, drug addicts or similar. But even if one did, keep in mind that the human immune system is an extremely robust thing. It evolved when humans were living in caves with no concept of good hygiene (except maybe an aversion to the smell of shit). Only a tiny percentage of people have their immune systems compromised to the point that a mask is helpful. In fact, being around germs helps the immune system. A good friend of mine works with wastewater and he insists that has made his immune system rock solid.

And just for the record, I almost never call someone an idiot to their face. And that includes people still masking up. It is inconsiderate and rarely wins the argument. But like everyone else, we can think it.
All joking aside. I understand that people think masks don’t work, but the idea that masks are harmful to people is an idea I haven’t heard before. What’s the thought process behind it? I’m genuinely curious, not trying to troll.
 

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I won't ever wear one again.
I only wore them back then so as not to cause a disturbance in supermarkets or on the train.
But they're crap and they always were.
Dr Mask himself said it, before he was convinced by the "powers that be" to tell everyone to wear them. An experiment in getting Americans to blindly follow.
No more.

https://nypost.com/2023/09/02/fauci...ask-evidence-but-still-wants-us-to-wear-them/


I am SO GLAD that I never took that damn shot.
So glad.
Never took it, never will.
 

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Prior to Covid, I almost never saw anyone outside a hospital wearing a mask (maybe some Asian tourists). Now, if I had to put a number of it, I'd say maybe 2-3% do on a regular basis; more like 5-10% when I take an airplane. And I have talked to some of these people. They wear masks because they are still scared of Covid, no other reason. However, there have been many articles since the mask mandate about the utility of masks. Overall, the bad effects of masks far outweighs the good. That is definitely something that distinguishes masks from things like seatbelts and helmets.

I don't live in the city, so I generally don't have to deal with homeless, drug addicts or similar. But even if one did, keep in mind that the human immune system is an extremely robust thing. It evolved when humans were living in caves with no concept of good hygiene (except maybe an aversion to the smell of shit). Only a tiny percentage of people have their immune systems compromised to the point that a mask is helpful. In fact, being around germs helps the immune system. A good friend of mine works with wastewater and he insists that has made his immune system rock solid.

And just for the record, I almost never call someone an idiot to their face. And that includes people still masking up. It is inconsiderate and rarely wins the argument. But like everyone else, we can think it.
I do not wear a mask because of the fear of covid, i wear it to protect me from nasty people, understand this about me, it took me 7 years before i actually sat down on a train, we are talking about 8 years before covid before my kid convinced me to "sit down dad" prior to that i used to see people sit in blood, spit, shit and cum yes cum unawares.
Since that day with the little one ive kept a spray bottle of 90% isopropyl alcohol that we spray whatever clothing we wear on public transport with, I was not gonna be the one bringing other peoples germs home to my kid.
I grew up in a totally different culture, when you enter your home the very first thing you do is was your hands, you relax for a few minutes to.let your body relax, then go take a shower and change into what is referred to as " house clothes" , the clothing you wear inside your home or on your property is never worn beyond your property, just as the shoes you wear inside the house never goes past the front door.
This is something not done in this country but i keep my hygienic practices i grained in me as i see nothing wrong with it.

As for people with compromised systems, respectfully sir you know very little, there are .any types of ailments that makes one immunocompromised for example severely advanced HIV infection ( I use this as its relatable to our hobby), also some acute cases of lukemia , myeloma.... yea lets introduce them.to some good old germs to get them.healthy, need i forget my classmate who had one of the worse, Lupus...poor woman didnt know just kept getting sick, two weeks after finding out, dead
 

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There is no exercise to get americans to blindly follow, americans have been doing that for decades, upon decades no need for experiments, religion half the people blindly following, the rest believe either news stations news print whatever they saw on youtube or whatever the voices in your head tell you, ALL of us are blindly following something and MOST of us think what we believe and follow is right.
 

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yea lets introduce them.to some good old germs to get them.healthy, need i forget my classmate who had one of the worse, Lupus...poor woman didnt know just kept getting sick, two weeks after finding out, dead
No need for scare tactics. I wasn't referring to immuno-compromised people, only regular otherwise healthy people. You are not going to encounter Bubonic plague or typhoid on a shopping cart. Most germs and viruses do not live long outside the body or some other petri-dish-like environment anyway, so the worst you are going to get touching a shopping cart is possibly some common cold or flu that is dead or dying. This can be helpful for your immune system to encounter a weak or dead germ/ virus, so it can prepare, because the next time your body encounters it, it might be one that is very much alive.
 
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