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Bill to make Sex work legal in New York State

mikemendez

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Increase in cost for a session?
Regulations requirements would cut into owners big piece of the pie.
Mandatory health screening for providers.
More Providers going Indy, since no fear of LE.
It’s anyone guess at this point.
 

VJLUTZ

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Increase in cost for a session?
Regulations requirements would cut into owners big piece of the pie.
Mandatory health screening for providers.
More Providers going Indy, since no fear of LE.
It’s anyone guess at this point.
Good point MM. If its "legal", it can then be regulated and taxed to the hilt. For everyone's own good, of course. When you think about it, it's too good a revenue source to ignore.

But, in some ways, what's old is new again. For just about the entire 19th century, brothels flourished in NYC, even though they technically weren't legal.

https://digpodcast.org/2017/09/03/19th-century-new-york-city-brothels/
 

mikemendez

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My question is, would current providers get on board with legalization or not? If they’re already established, earning top dollar why pay a fee, owners would charge girls more to cover extra costs. Legalization bill gets passed, you go to visit your favorite, now the price is almost doubled and for the same service. I don’t believe owners would come out from behind the curtains so to speak, if how they’re conducting business is working, why change things. Not to mention an AMP union getting in the mix, lol.
 

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I think there would still be underground providers & shops who would attempt to skirt the the regulations and taxes.
I'm not sure if current providers would legitimize but my gut tells me no.
That might be an interesting question to ask them.
 

VJLUTZ

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Given the nature of the Northeast, I can see brothels popping up all along the NY border, similar to the way Fireworks places popped up here in PA. Only more so.
 

LordByron

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I’m also curious as to how it might affect the availability of FBSM, and how the law would treat or qualify FBSM vs. FS providers, or if there would be any difference.
 

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It may surprise some of you. I contacted 2 parlor managers and 3 providers directly about this legislation. All 5 of them are in support of this legislation because we (both parties) are meeting to have relaxing and entertaining massages. 3 of them said "America is a free country." I will wait for the Senator to call me back (probably tomorrow) and go from there.
 

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It does not surprise me that you brought up the subject with them. Their feeling about it surprises me a bit but the more I think about it I guess it does make sense. In the long run, however, all parties involved may suffer financially because of course the governments will require their piece of the pie.
 

Chiparlor

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Let the government have their piece of pie and we will see increasing number of legislators going in parlors for their relaxing massages. We may have lobby-parlor chat with them. We may converse with them next door.
 

TGBeldin

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I am not sure I agree with the prevailing assumption that legalization will result in significantly higher prices. In fact, what I have seen argues that prices will likely drop in a lot of cases.

For decade I have traveled to Buffalo, and to a lesser degree, Detroit. In both cases the sex trade on the Canadian side of the border (Niagara, Toronto, Windsor) there were better options at less cost (often half the course—and not just because of the US/Canada exchange rates. The same was true with Seattle vs Vancouver, though the cost of living in Vancouver made the difference less on my small sample size.

Cost is a function of both supply & demand, but is also influenced by risk. When it is legal—or at least not criminalized—the LE risk is less. But additionally, when the women feel they can comfortably go to the police if stalked/threatened by a disgruntled client, that to reduces the risk. When they don’t have to take round about measures to rent a place, or have fewer bribes to pay, etc., this too keeps prices down.

I do not know what will happen between NY and all their neighboring states, but I know a lot of ladies from the area near Erie/Buffalo would work in Toronto, even though they made less per hour and had to commute. For them the safety issues, coupled with it being legal, tipped the scales that direction for them, increasing the supply on the Canadian side, thus decreasing prices.

I do not know what will happen if it is legalized in NY, but if it’s decriminalized I am quite confident prices will drop, not rise.
 

Srhsrh

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I’m no expert but I’m guessing that it would end up strictly separating sex work from “massage body work” and run the HJ shops out of business. Meaning they’ll take advantage of this to add more strict regulations about bodywork, like what’s happened in Rhode Island.
 
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