Not always the same hotel...but usually one of the same of several. Getting in has never been an issue...nobody ever notices or makes any effort to notice. I suspect that the hotels all know exactly what's up (in general, not specifically with any particular agency, or even just with agencies, because it's the same with indies) when they constantly see the same very attractive young girls checking in early, leaving at night, and when they see guys coming in all day, quietly waiting in the lobby sitting areas, then checking their phones before going upstairs and leaving about an hour later. They do a lot of business with these girls, so as long as nobody causes any problems, they probably recognize the pattern but choose to ignore it. I've been the first client and was already waiting patiently when the girl checked in late several times. They dress down, but with some of them, it's still got to be quite obvious why they're there, and it was apparent to me that the desk staff had already established a rapport with the girls and were very nice to them and happy to see them again. I'm pretty sure they also realized why I went upstairs shortly after they checked in and then left an hour later.
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Desires of New York (DONY)
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I'm with you @bor3dmonk3y on the sneaking in... it's exhilarating. Doing something oh-so-very-wrong and the payoff can be a great time. I do find it weird when I get stuck waiting inside the hotel. I've been on a few adventures where I would have preferred to wait outside or go around the block again, but once you step foot inside you're better off just waiting. I think the coming and going ... then coming in and going up only to come out an hour later ... is too much of a giveaway. So, just lean back or have a seat and relax... even better if the lobby bathroom is available, you can act like you just needed to take a shit right damn now lololol.
I guess part of it is that I fundamentally reject that whole premise. I genuinely don't think I'm doing anything wrong and I don't think the girls are, either. In fact, the nicer the girl is, the more I worry about them believing that they're doing something as horrible as our societal mores would have them believe,especially the ones who are in their early 20s. Usually, if I see them enough to establish a rapport, I tell them that they should never feel that they've done anything wrong by being in this business and that whether or not they choose to continue doing it, they should never have any shame about it.
Have a weird thought in the back of my mind when I see high volume ladies.
Always think about dairy cow concentrated animal feeding operations.
These cows are confined to a small enclosed space for weeks on end with the only purpose of being milked as much as they can.
Even with cows, having their sole purpose in life being getting milked day in day out seems kind of saddening.
They do get to eat all the grass they want
Always think about dairy cow concentrated animal feeding operations.
These cows are confined to a small enclosed space for weeks on end with the only purpose of being milked as much as they can.
Even with cows, having their sole purpose in life being getting milked day in day out seems kind of saddening.
They do get to eat all the grass they want
No, not a white knight, whatsoever. I've just never agreed with or respected anybody who buys into the gender-based sexual morality double standard, at all, and that predates my first experience in this industry by a long shot. I wrote a whole book about it, in fact. If fucking 200 girls doesn't define you negatively as a person, then fucking 200 guys doesn't define the girls negatively, either. I don't think personal sexual choices are moral issues and I think it's impossible to justify maintaining a different moral standard for, essentially, the exact same behavior, just based on what gender someone happens to be. I don't give a flying fuck how many guys a girl has fucked; if she's a nice sweet girl, she's (still) a nice sweet girl. Conversely, I think there are plenty of virgins (or lifelong monogamous women) who are disgusting human beings for shit they do totally outside of the sexual realm.
200?
Try thousands.
There is a difference, IMO
The count is not so important to me.
The end result is.
A male in this world since his teens might be somewhat lenient in his beliefs.
A female with a 4 digit count still wants George Clooney or Brad Pitt.
Thus my conclusions.
Does your book include that double standard?
Because it is VERY real.
Try thousands.
There is a difference, IMO
The count is not so important to me.
The end result is.
A male in this world since his teens might be somewhat lenient in his beliefs.
A female with a 4 digit count still wants George Clooney or Brad Pitt.
Thus my conclusions.
Does your book include that double standard?
Because it is VERY real.
It's hardly just you; but that doesn't make it right. For the most part, these girls aren't violating their marriages and doing dirty shit in the eyes of their partners every time they see a guy. If you want to discuss morals, THAT shit's a lot harder to justify. I'm not judging anybody; I'm just pointing out the irony of married guys who pay girls to fuck them behind their wives' backs passing moral judgment on the (mostly) single girls they pay to fuck.
You (and everybody else) are obviously entitled to your opinion about anything and you have no obligation to justify it to me. But if you want to discuss morality in principle, you have to be able to articulate, compare, and distinguish objective principles in a logically-consistent objective way.
You're introducing suppositions for which there's absolutely no evidence other than your personal opinion. I reject the whole premise of your argument, because I don't think a high "count," as you put it, has anything to do with finding a partner. You enjoy fucking all sorts of women in whom you have no potential long-term interest, and you probably aren't even looking for a long-term partner at all, and certainly not from among the girls you pay to fuck, right? If you can fuck 1,000 women for fun, why can't a women do the same if she wants...or why can't she fuck 1,000 guys for money if she's comfortable with that? Likewise, some (civilian) women simply enjoy fucking whatever guys they want to fuck and they're not necessarily interested in most of those guys beyond sex, from the get-go. Girls in this industry may sometimes end up dating clients, but that's the last thing on most of their minds, because it's just their job. Generally, women are much less obsessed with guys' looks than men are with women's looks. Everybody wants to be attracted to a partner, but it's men who focus on finding their perfect "10," whereas women tend to be much more flexible about superficial attraction, especially when the guy isn't unattractive, but just not necessarily Brad Pitt.
The main two points are:
(1) What any person does with his or her genitals (consensually) with other adults isn't a moral issue;
(2) There's no logical justification whatsoever for viewing any moral issue differently based on gender.
You (and everybody else) are obviously entitled to your opinion about anything and you have no obligation to justify it to me. But if you want to discuss morality in principle, you have to be able to articulate, compare, and distinguish objective principles in a logically-consistent objective way.
You're introducing suppositions for which there's absolutely no evidence other than your personal opinion. I reject the whole premise of your argument, because I don't think a high "count," as you put it, has anything to do with finding a partner. You enjoy fucking all sorts of women in whom you have no potential long-term interest, and you probably aren't even looking for a long-term partner at all, and certainly not from among the girls you pay to fuck, right? If you can fuck 1,000 women for fun, why can't a women do the same if she wants...or why can't she fuck 1,000 guys for money if she's comfortable with that? Likewise, some (civilian) women simply enjoy fucking whatever guys they want to fuck and they're not necessarily interested in most of those guys beyond sex, from the get-go. Girls in this industry may sometimes end up dating clients, but that's the last thing on most of their minds, because it's just their job. Generally, women are much less obsessed with guys' looks than men are with women's looks. Everybody wants to be attracted to a partner, but it's men who focus on finding their perfect "10," whereas women tend to be much more flexible about superficial attraction, especially when the guy isn't unattractive, but just not necessarily Brad Pitt.
The main two points are:
(1) What any person does with his or her genitals (consensually) with other adults isn't a moral issue;
(2) There's no logical justification whatsoever for viewing any moral issue differently based on gender.