Election 2024

[rajhorn]

Vote for who you want but the S&P 500, Nasdaq 100 and the DOW recently hit an all time high. So if you’re 401k is in a fund that tracks the S&P 500 index, like VOO or SPY or IVV, it also recently hit an all time high. Meaning never been higher ever. I don’t think that is debatable. If you owned the stock of Nvidia you made a lot of money recently. I am just saying that facts have to matter.

Clearly you didn’t understand me.

The stock market was an all time record under Trump. All 4 years saw one of the largest increases ever.

Under Biden we had the biggest crash since 2008 in 2022.

I’m saying Trump’s 4 years had a larger gain than Biden’s 4 years projected. Yes facts do matter. This is a fact.

And if Trump got re-elected your 401k would even be larger today hypothetically because the Russel 2000 is negative under Biden. It went up 50% under Trump. The Russell 2000 is as broad as you can go in the stock market. So I could care less what index your 401k tracks, it would be much higher today under Trump. Period. The end. Fact.

So it’s laughable to claim Biden’s stock market is a reason to vote for him. His inflation, and gas prices along with mortgage rates ruined everyone’s quality of life.

 

[rajhorn]

Every single Biden voter is just voting for him because of Trump Derangement Syndrome. There are zero valid reasons to vote for him. They can’t admit that because of pride. Biden is the worst president America has had post WW2.

 

[rajhorn]

This is an open challenge to all 17 Biden voters in the poll… name one…. Literally one reason why you are voting Biden…. Without mentioning Trump. Just one.

What about the Senile one made you a fan?

I’ll respect you more for saying Abortion rights. (Even though Trump believes in exceptions).

Rather than mentioning stupid nonsense like the stock market when Trump had a larger gain over 4 years as %, and would have given you even more gains from 2021-2024.

Every single public company saw their revenues spike under Trump. The country’s economy roared but you wanted him out of office because he hurt your feelings. Just LOL.

 

[rajhorn]

@HooTungK did you vote for Trump in 2020 given that your 401K went up to record highs? No of course not you dislike him personally.

Did you celebrate Biden's -25% crash in VOO in 2022?

Do you realize that if Trump was President in 2024 your 401K would be 25% higher than it is now? VOO is just a subsection of the Russell 2000 index which is -7% under Biden.

Everything is debatable. What nonsense. Nvidia's gains in 2023/2024 along with AVGO/AMD originated under Trump. Literally every public company including Meta saw a 300% rise in revenues under Trump.

Without the pandemic there was 0% chance of him losing because in Jan 2020 Gallup gave him the highest economic approval since Bill Clinton in 1998. The pandemic destroyed him, and gave the senile one an opening. Now we live with the consequences of this imbecile running the country.

 

[HooTungK]

Wow, I guess I struck a nerve. I'm sorry if you lost money in the stock market. I actually did not mention the current or former president.

As for your challenge. It is very easy. Joe Biden is a decent human being.

And unfortunately, some people want us to not believe what we are seeing with our own eyes. Some people want us to no longer believe that 2+2 still equals 4. It is unfortunate that you believe everything is up for debate.

The S&P 500 hit an all time high in 2022 and it hit an all time high in 2024. And on planet earth Biden was the president in 2022 and 2024. How is that debatable? I mentioned the S&P 500 index funds because the largest Exchange Traded Funds (ETF) track the S&P 500. SPY is the largest ETF. IVV is the second largest ETF and VOO is the third largest ETF. They all track the S&P 500 index. They became the largest because those are the funds that most people invested in. The 2nd and 3rd largest mutual funds track also the S&P 500 index. So to say that 401ks were larger under the former president is simply not true. And most, if not all, 401ks don't allow employees to invest in individual stocks.

And the pandemic did not destroy the former president. He was the president of the United States of America and he failed to rise to the challenge of the pandemic. There were leaders of other countries who rose to the challenge and they are still leading their countries today.

In 2017 he cut corporate tax to a flat rate of 21%. Individuals depending on income can pay as high as 37%. So just in case you didn't know, the stock market is made up of publicly traded corporations. So did stocks go up under the former president of course they did. He gave the corporations a huge tax break.

Regular Americans not so much. Not only did he not give us a tax break, but he limited our State and Local Tax deductions to $10,000. It was unlimited prior to 2017. If we paid $10,000 in state tax and $15,000 in property tax, we could deduct $25,000 from our gross income. In other words lowering our taxable income by $25,000 in my example. But not anymore thanks to the former president. And if my example is not clear, chances if you're a homeowner in the northeast then you are probably paying more in taxes because of the former president. We now have to still pay federal tax on money that we already paid in State and local tax. What a great guy. You definitely should vote for him.

 

[Koondog]

Decent human being? On what planet? He's a HORRIBLE human being and 3/4 vegetative to boot.

 

[MetsFan20]

Trump appeals to the lowest common denominator of uneducated, worthless, gullible tools. Some of your clowns need to stop watching Faux 'News', OAN and Newsmax and stop sleeping on your MyPillow. Geez.

 

[Chevyfan1234]

Thanks to the GOP and Trump, this is one of the last monger websites. Fuckers want to turn this country into a Christian Saudi Arabia

 

[Koondog]

Trump appeals to the lowest common denominator of uneducated, worthless, gullible tools. Some of your clowns need to stop watching Faux 'News', OAN and Newsmax and stop sleeping on your MyPillow. Geez.

I would say it's the reverse. Talk about gullible, Biden appeals to those who don't even follow the news and couldn't possibly vote Dem if they did. Since 95% of our media are just mouthpieces for and an arm of the D party it's no wonder so many people are led like sheep to vote against what is best for the country.

As far as Trump appealing to people, when the other choice is a houseplant who barely knows what planet he is on with the mental capacity of a french fry not really hard for Trump not to appeal to people. Abrasive competent guy with very good first term (Trump) vs. clueless dementia guy led around by the nose by the far left kooks in his party with easily 4 of the most disastrous years in office in my 6 decades of life.

No brainer.

 

[MetsFan20]

It's not about Democrat versus Republican genius, I'm a Republican but wouldn't vote for Trump in a thousand years. I don't drink the Kool-Aid you and many others do.

Here's a nice video from your hero, orange man

p.s. The election wasn't stolen genius

 

[spazman]

Moderators if politics is not allowed please delete this thread.

But who are you guys supporting this election?

Fellow Monger Donald J Trump or Senile Joe Biden?

I’m going with Trump.

Biden destroyed the economy with inflation. Prices have gone up a minimum of 25%. Not to mention ridiculously high gas prices.

He flooded the country with 10M migrants in 3 years. Creating a welfare class.

His foreign policy is awful. More wars, and conflicts. Not to mention the Afghan Withdrawal.

Curious to see how you guys view things?

Politics is the same as sports, entertainment, etc. ukraine war was due to the computerized game war of ??? I can't think of the game.
if everyones vote counted it would be outlawed.
their first debate was about the number 47. trump will be the next grover cleveland, he campaigned in cleveland ohio. biden is behind the dollar collapse.
when you all vote, you allow dictators control everything.

 

[spazman]

I’m voting for Trump for the third time because he will make America great again!!!

No he won't.

 

[HooTungK]

If he does it will be because of that infernal mail in voting and crooks like that gap toothed hippo in Ga stuffing ballots in mail boxes again.
There is NO WAY I believe that Biden got 81 million legit votes.
One day, one vote, and do it at the polls.
That's the American way.

You know for years, the former president voted by mail. And I know 2020 was a long time ago so maybe you forgot that there was this pandemic thing and so more people than usual voted by mail to avoid going to the crowded polls.

But I do agree with you Slim. Some District Attorneys across the country are releasing criminals while they await trial and sometimes they are even releasing them without bail. Believe it or not there is a guy who was arrested, and charged with numerous crimes and unfortunately he was released while awaiting trial and now he is running for president. I can't imagine who would vote for him but what do I know.

And prosecutors can't wake up on the wrong side of the bed one morning and decide, Hey I'm gonna charge this guy with a felony because I don't like him. In the United States of America if a prosecutor wants to charge a felony they must present evidence to a Grand Jury and the Grand Jury decides if there is enough evidence to charge a felony. But I bet you already knew that Slim and unfortunately I don't think it matters.

 

[spazman]

You know for years, the former president voted by mail. And I know 2020 was a long time ago so maybe you forgot that there was this pandemic thing and so more people than usual voted by mail to avoid going to the crowded polls.

But I do agree with you Slim. Some District Attorneys across the country are releasing criminals while they await trial and sometimes they are even releasing them without bail. Believe it or not there is a guy who was arrested, and charged with numerous crimes and unfortunately he was released while awaiting trial and now he is running for president. I can't imagine who would vote for him but what do I know.

And prosecutors can't wake up on the wrong side of the bed one morning and decide, Hey I'm gonna charge this guy with a felony because I don't like him. In the United States of America if a prosecutor wants to charge a felony they must present evidence to a Grand Jury and the Grand Jury decides if there is enough evidence to charge a felony. But I bet you already knew that Slim and unfortunately I don't think it matters.

Its all part of political theatre. honestly, when you vote you're allowing evil people to keep doing what they need to do so you all need to stop complaining.

 

[brett76]

Wait didn’t trump get rid of backpage.

 

[Johnnylovesmassages]

Every single Biden voter is just voting for him because of Trump Derangement Syndrome. There are zero valid reasons to vote for him. They can’t admit that because of pride. Biden is the worst president America has had post WW2.

ALL historians disagree with you and put TRUMP as the worst POTUS of ALL TIME. Meanwhile you support a racist, sexist, wife cheating, convicted sexual assaulter who denies climate change and tried to overthrow an election and lies all the time. Shame on you.

 

[이 회장님]

ALL historians disagree with you and put TRUMP as the worst POTUS of ALL TIME. Meanwhile you support a racist, sexist, wife cheating, convicted sexual assaulter who denies climate change and tried to overthrow an election and lies all the time. Shame on you.

Are you okay? We can have a political discussion without getting so emotional. So go outside, grab a cup of coffee, take a nice walk, close your eyes and do some self-reflection.

 

[PorterD]

Wow, I guess I struck a nerve. I'm sorry if you lost money in the stock market. I actually did not mention the current or former president.

As for your challenge. It is very easy. Joe Biden is a decent human being.

And unfortunately, some people want us to not believe what we are seeing with our own eyes. Some people want us to no longer believe that 2+2 still equals 4. It is unfortunate that you believe everything is up for debate.

The S&P 500 hit an all time high in 2022 and it hit an all time high in 2024. And on planet earth Biden was the president in 2022 and 2024. How is that debatable? I mentioned the S&P 500 index funds because the largest Exchange Traded Funds (ETF) track the S&P 500. SPY is the largest ETF. IVV is the second largest ETF and VOO is the third largest ETF. They all track the S&P 500 index. They became the largest because those are the funds that most people invested in. The 2nd and 3rd largest mutual funds track also the S&P 500 index. So to say that 401ks were larger under the former president is simply not true. And most, if not all, 401ks don't allow employees to invest in individual stocks.

And the pandemic did not destroy the former president. He was the president of the United States of America and he failed to rise to the challenge of the pandemic. There were leaders of other countries who rose to the challenge and they are still leading their countries today.

In 2017 he cut corporate tax to a flat rate of 21%. Individuals depending on income can pay as high as 37%. So just in case you didn't know, the stock market is made up of publicly traded corporations. So did stocks go up under the former president of course they did. He gave the corporations a huge tax break.

Regular Americans not so much. Not only did he not give us a tax break, but he limited our State and Local Tax deductions to $10,000. It was unlimited prior to 2017. If we paid $10,000 in state tax and $15,000 in property tax, we could deduct $25,000 from our gross income. In other words lowering our taxable income by $25,000 in my example. But not anymore thanks to the former president. And if my example is not clear, chances if you're a homeowner in the northeast then you are probably paying more in taxes because of the former president. We now have to still pay federal tax on money that we already paid in State and local tax. What a great guy. You definitely should vote for him.

There is kind of a lot of disinformation here. Joe Biden is not a good person. A racist, accused of sexual assault, quid pro quo dealings with China. A grouper as seen in many instances. All of this is Demonstrably true. The man literally showered with his daughter at an “inappropriate age”

I will never understand people who think Trump is all those things and will vote Biden. It’s weird.

Presidents actually have very little to do with the stock market that being said the market gained way more under Trump.

The media reported a false narrative on Trump re Covid. They even held the vaccine until a week after the election in their efforts to rig it. A vaccine the liberals later lined up to take in droves. The same one Trump created. People forget this.

 

[mccovey]

They are both incredibly flawed , not decent human beings . The difference ? One is senile and a puppet and has no clue about anything , the other , while unbelievably flawed , at least puts what is best for the country’s safety and self sufficiency first . I’ll let you guess which is which …..

 

[Wayne1250]

Trump's handling of the pandemic and his denial in the beginning that it was real had damaging effects access the board. Biden's first job as president was to get the band aids on the wounds that Trump left behind when Biden took over. Without Biden's help for all the unemployed that resulted in our shuttering at home caused.

Trump's slogan, "make America great", is just another of his crock of "poop" statements to just pump out his chest to make himself look good. Biden is clearly the lesser of two evils, I'd at least vote for him over the Devil, but not Trump. The Devil would probably be a better President. Maybe someday soon we will have a candidate worthy of the President of the United States.