Gisella vs Aurora vs Koreanna

[cm47toimaim]

 

[cm47toimaim]

Some women … like wine …not all… get better with age.

 

[Uniquelyme]

"Command" in this context would normally mean: able to successfully complete a transaction with consumers who knowingly agree to pay that amount. So you are demonstrably incorrect factually.

"Deserve" OTOH is subjective, and you all are entitled to your opinion, and your opinions are not inherently wrong or crazy. I would never tell anyone how to value their marginal dollars. But I am hardly alone in valuing those names as being at the top of the list, and we are fully informed customers. I see younger providers too. They have their advantages. You value those advantages more than I do. No question in my mind that G and C/A are better FOR ME than any younger girl.


Glad I could astound you. I will not be budging from that analogy. His pure athleticism was better in the 80s, but he was a better player in the 90s. And even when he started to decline he was still better than anyone else.

@Uniquelyme, scanning who we both have seen this year it looks like it's just Hana at Xoxo. I take it you prefer those two. That's fine. Both very lovely girls. Yuri is in my top 20 (though she ain't that young either) and Hana in my top 30. No way in hell would I value those two over my top two. That's my taste. Once you get the ranking out of the way, then it's a question of marginal cost for marginal quality. That's a different question for everyone depending on their ability to pay.

Which brings us to the Mets.


I don't do baseball as much. So I'll probably screw up the analogies here. Forgive me. But going with the notion of value of marginal dollars. Steve Cohen thought that those two were worth more than any younger pitcher. They were going to get top salaries no matter what, right? He just paid the most. And with the funds that he has, he doesn't care about marginal dollars. Some of us are Steve Cohen/Mets. Some of us are the Oakland As and have to care about marginal quality/marginal $. Cohen knew what he was doing. And without knowing baseball, if those two were complete free agents, somebody is still going to pay them very high salaries, right? More relevantly, the analogy is flawed, because I assume the Mets are getting top prospects in return.....WHO ARE NOT BE GOOD AS SCHERZER AND VERLANDER RIGHT NOW. (Are they? If they're not getting top prospects, then those are terrible trades). So that's a different sort of equation when you're dealing with a lost season and now are planning for 2025. I mean, if this were baseball, I might consider trading one of my top two to acquire SL Kotone and then lock her up on a long-term deal, knowing that by 2025 Kotone might develop into one of the greatest pitchers ever - assuming those fabulous massive but ridiculous implants soften up over time and she refines some of her skills and personalizes her passion a little bit more. But she's too young right now).

For the record, I'm closer to the A's. I haven't decided yet how high I'll go myself. But if I was Steve Cohen I would be commanded.

I like the points you're making. I will say that Yuri was $260 for 30 mins $350 for 1 hr when i was seeing her mainly at MG and she is top tier talent and looks younger than all these girls in this list and a decent amount cheaper.

Hana is prettier than all these girls in this list and is a phenomenal kisser and is very sensual and gives a real girlfriend feel. And over 15 years younger than these pros and much less $240/$360 i think.

Like you said we all have our opinions and we all have our limits. I can afford these girls i just couldn't live with myself spending that amount on Women very close to my age and one or two of them even older than i am.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Some women … like wine …not all… get better with age.

That is not true at all. They wish this were true. Deep down they know beauty fades just like athleticism. Hence why they get cosmetic facial surgery.

 

[cm47toimaim]

That is not true at all. They wish this were true. Deep down they know beauty fades just like athleticism. Hence why they get cosmetic facial surgery.

That’s not true at all thru your prism view…

Some people prefer inexpensive wines …MD 2020… and that’s fine…nothing wrong with that…that doesn’t mean they don’t have good taste. They simply cannot afford the more expensive wines…As such they will never appreciate certain finer things like vintage wine or women (and not all do) that get better with age.

 

[Beacon]

I don’t have much interest in seeing these ladies but I have enjoyed reading the conversation a great deal. It’s good to see a civil discussion amongst some of our reputable members.

 

[Uniquelyme]

That’s not true at all thru your prism view…

Some people prefer inexpensive wines …MD 2020… and that’s fine…nothing wrong with that…that doesn’t mean they don’t have good taste. They simply cannot afford the more expensive wines…As such they will never appreciate certain finer things like vintage wine or women (and not all do) that get better with age.

You and others have bought into this way of thinking which is great for you and your choice. Glad you enjoy your time with whomever you see . What i do have ro make abundantly clear is that i can afford to spend $500-600 on a pro if i wanted to . I just don't think ANY pro over 32 is worth that rate. Not wanting to spend because of the lack of value someone believes an item or service has is different than not being able to afford that item or service.

 

[cm47toimaim]

You and others have bought into this way of thinking which is great for you and your choice. Glad you enjoy your time with whomever you see . What i do have ro make abundantly clear is that i can afford to spend $500-600 on a pro if i wanted to . I just don't think ANY pro over 32 is worth that rate. Not wanting to spend because of the lack of value someone believes an item or service has is different than not being able to afford that item or service.

You are entitled to your point of view. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Kwu1125]

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Unfortunately many AMP girls are aging like milk. Fine wine, very few.

 

[cm47toimaim]

Unfortunately many AMP girls are aging like milk. Fine wine, very few.

 

[The REAL Bxbrown]

Unfortunately many AMP girls are aging like milk. Fine wine, very few.

And you win best comment of the day.

 

[Retired032824]

"Command" in this context would normally mean: able to successfully complete a transaction with consumers who knowingly agree to pay that amount. So you are demonstrably incorrect factually.

"Deserve" OTOH is subjective, and you all are entitled to your opinion, and your opinions are not inherently wrong or crazy. I would never tell anyone how to value their marginal dollars. But I am hardly alone in valuing those names as being at the top of the list, and we are fully informed customers. I see younger providers too. They have their advantages. You value those advantages more than I do. No question in my mind that G and C/A are better FOR ME than any younger girl.


Glad I could astound you. I will not be budging from that analogy. His pure athleticism was better in the 80s, but he was a better player in the 90s. And even when he started to decline he was still better than anyone else.

@Uniquelyme, scanning who we both have seen this year it looks like it's just Hana at Xoxo. I take it you prefer those two. That's fine. Both very lovely girls. Yuri is in my top 20 (though she ain't that young either) and Hana in my top 30. No way in hell would I value those two over my top two. That's my taste. Once you get the ranking out of the way, then it's a question of marginal cost for marginal quality. That's a different question for everyone depending on their ability to pay.

Which brings us to the Mets.


I don't do baseball as much. So I'll probably screw up the analogies here. Forgive me. But going with the notion of value of marginal dollars. Steve Cohen thought that those two were worth more than any younger pitcher. They were going to get top salaries no matter what, right? He just paid the most. And with the funds that he has, he doesn't care about marginal dollars. Some of us are Steve Cohen/Mets. Some of us are the Oakland As and have to care about marginal quality/marginal $. Cohen knew what he was doing. And without knowing baseball, if those two were complete free agents, somebody is still going to pay them very high salaries, right? More relevantly, the analogy is flawed, because I assume the Mets are getting top prospects in return.....WHO ARE NOT BE GOOD AS SCHERZER AND VERLANDER RIGHT NOW. (Are they? If they're not getting top prospects, then those are terrible trades). So that's a different sort of equation when you're dealing with a lost season and now are planning for 2025. I mean, if this were baseball, I might consider trading one of my top two to acquire SL Kotone and then lock her up on a long-term deal, knowing that by 2025 Kotone might develop into one of the greatest pitchers ever - assuming those fabulous massive but ridiculous implants soften up over time and she refines some of her skills and personalizes her passion a little bit more. But she's too young right now).

For the record, I'm closer to the A's. I haven't decided yet how high I'll go myself. But if I was Steve Cohen I would be commanded.

Command in the context I am using it implies neither your interpretation of command nor deserve - I am using it in the context of being worth it . Nothing to do with ability to compete a transaction . Try to see it more like people buying a stock at 130 times earnings based on trailing twelve months as opposed to future earnings . There might have been a time when these women we discussed might have been a good stock , but not any more .

 

[Imaseoulman]

To each his own. IMO, most (but certainly not ALL) guys would find these three overall more attractive/better looking than just about any AMP girl. There is decent liquidity in this market and they get their price.

Another factor that distinguishes these three is that they just look more polished and fresher than the girls working in an AMP. Not sure whether that’s due to having more control over their schedules; but they are usually wearing relatively new lingerie, high heels, makeup is pristine, and they appear well rested and fresh. The apartments are definitely nicer than any AMP. Feels closer to a sugar babe experience. Too often the girls in the AMPs are rushing from one appointment to another and can’t shake the vibe that they’ve already had 7-8 c$/&s in their mouth that day…

 

[digdug69]

To each his own. IMO, most (but certainly not ALL) guys would find these three overall more attractive/better looking than just about any AMP girl. There is decent liquidity in this market and they get their price.

Another factor that distinguishes these three is that they just look more polished and fresher than the girls working in an AMP. Not sure whether that’s due to having more control over their schedules; but they are usually wearing relatively new lingerie, high heels, makeup is pristine, and they appear well rested and fresh. The apartments are definitely nicer than any AMP. Feels closer to a sugar babe experience. Too often the girls in the AMPs are rushing from one appointment to another and can’t shake the vibe that they’ve already had 7-8 c$/&s in their mouth that day…

Again I personally agree on your observations.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Season Team Salary
1984-85 Chicago Bulls $ 550,000
1985-86 Chicago Bulls $ 630,000
1986-87 Chicago Bulls $ 737,500
1987-88 Chicago Bulls $ 845,000
1988-89 Chicago Bulls $ 2,000,000
1989-90 Chicago Bulls $ 2,500,000
1990-91 Chicago Bulls $ 2,500,000
1991-92 Chicago Bulls $ 3,250,000
1992-93 Chicago Bulls $ 4,000,000
1993-94 Chicago Bulls $ 4,000,000
1994-95 Chicago Bulls $ 3,850,000
1995-96 Chicago Bulls $ 3,850,000
1996-97 Chicago Bulls $ 30,140,000
1997-98 Chicago Bulls $ 33,140,000
2001-02 Washington Wizards $1,000,000
2002-03 Washington Wizards $1,030,00

It's reasonable to assert that the Jordan that scored 63 in the playoffs against the Celtics in '86 was the greatest Jordan. But it really isn't reasonable to assert that it's crazy to say otherwise. It's a matter of taste. He may have lost a bit of explosiveness and just a touch from the visual OMG impact in the 2nd half of his career, but his overall dominance of the game was arguably greater - not arguably, it's more or less conventional wisdom. And the visuals were still better than almost all of, the younger players. And of the others who are in that conversation visually....well, in 1997 are you taking Kobe or MJ?

In my view, Gisella is roughly analagous to 92-93 Jordan, who could suddenly hit you with the unexpected and nail 6 three-pointers in the first half against the Blazers.

Aurora is the 95-98 version. Coming out of retirement of sorts and returning greater than ever in terms of having near absolute control over her opponents and doing essentially as she pleases. Too bad for us and Jerry Reinsdorf, about that 1996-97 bump in pay. But did Reinsdorf say, "why am I paying this guy this much when I had him for 1/10th the price before?" Well, he probably did say that. But he did it anyway. The market is the market.

Never met her, but it does sound to me like Koreanna is Wizards Jordan. Yeah, I wouldn't give Wizards Jordan that 97-98 salary either, so I probably won't be meeting her until she drops to Wizard Jordan salary. I do pray that both G and C/A get out before they become Wizards Jordan themselves. That would make me sad. But they have some time. Though Wizards Jordan actually was still a pretty great player. And at that salary, a great value. Just not MICHAEL JORDAN.

Hey, the analaogy works for CherryDD too: Now that I think about it, CherryDD might be bordering on Wizards Jordan. But at 360, she's analagous to the bargain Wizards Jordan salary.

Learned something today - MJ got a salary for that missing 93-94 season. I wonder what Chanel's version of the Birmingham Barons was.

Cherry DD is prime Michael Jordan when the opponent did something to upset him.

Aurora is Reggie Miller and Gisella is Clyde Drexler....

In no way do i think a provider past 33 should be the most expensive provider at an agency in the city.

Lastly Cherry is at a good rate and if anything at all could be a bit less.

Demand dictates the price. Cherry is underpriced at 360 if anything. I called at 11 am today to try to book her and she is fully booked through Friday.

The hottest providers in NYC just happen to be mainly older than 33. I've banged about 40 j-girls in manhattan...I think the prettiest one I saw was 10ten Karin. Never felt the urge to repeat.

But I would easily put PH Rachel (I just say her a few months ago).as way hotter than any j-girl I've seen. Not even close. I'd say Cherry is hotter as well.

Yes, the j-girls are the youngest but chinese and korean women are just hotter than japanese women.

I'd say it is sexiness that matters not just looks or age. Sexiness is too subjective. I still remember the faces that Cherry was making when she was sucking my dick and I was fucking her.

Now, after I just got done talking all that shit I completely intend to bang that new japanese girl at PP tomorrow.....

 

[Luke Che]

As a sports guy, I love Judge Kavanaugh's analogies, but for me it boils down to if I've already seen peak Jordan with my hard-earned ticket money, it may time to check out the new up and coming stars, maybe a Vince Carter or Dwyane Wade. So when some of the older classics are charging that much, I get it, but I many just want to experience something new for the thrill of that, which we all know is one of the best parts of this hobby, the unknown.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Cherry DD is prime Michael Jordan when the opponent did something to upset him.

Aurora is Reggie Miller and Gisella is Clyde Drexler....





Demand dictates the price. Cherry is underpriced at 360 if anything. I called at 11 am today to try to book her and she is fully booked through Friday.

The hottest providers in NYC just happen to be mainly older than 33. I've banged about 40 j-girls in manhattan...I think the prettiest one I saw was 10ten Karin. Never felt the urge to repeat.

But I would easily put PH Rachel (I just say her a few months ago).as way hotter than any j-girl I've seen. Not even close. I'd say Cherry is hotter as well.

Yes, the j-girls are the youngest but chinese and korean women are just hotter than japanese women.

I'd say it is sexiness that matters not just looks or age. Sexiness is too subjective. I still remember the faces that Cherry was making when she was sucking my dick and I was fucking her.

Now, after I just got done talking all that shit I completely intend to bang that new japanese girl at PP tomorrow.....

Demand is high because she is fully augmented and a novelty and she is very open minded, as well as hardly ever here. Her price is imo at the correct rate, keep pushing the narrative otherwise and it will go up.

I disagree rthat the hottest providers are older than 33. None of these girls are as pretty naturally as Hana, Helen from MLE and Kate from PP. All under 25 years old.

It's very simple some guys love augmented , facial cosmetic surgery pros. That's their right. Someomes gotta pay for them surgeries. The customer is definitely covering it.

Service wise is where i can see the older pros having the leg up and that's the only aspect. However i have no problem directing a session.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Demand is high because she is fully augmented and a novelty and she is very open minded, as well as hardly ever here. Her price is imo at the correct rate, keep pushing the narrative otherwise and it will go up.

I disagree rthat the hottest providers are older than 33. None of these girls are as pretty naturally as Hana, Helen from MLE and Kate from PP. All under 25 years old.

It's very simple some guys love augmented , facial cosmetic surgery pros. That's their right. Someomes gotta pay for them surgeries. The customer is definitely covering it.

Service wise is where i can see the older pros having the leg up and that's the only aspect. However i have no problem directing a session.

At least we get something back for the money we put in....all the Fendi bags and shit these hoes are buying with our money is not doing a damn thing.

 

[BrettKavanaugh]

Unfortunately many AMP girls are aging like milk. Fine wine, very few.

Actually, Milk was aging fairly well! Good value too.

https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-milk-redrosespanyc.103159

she is top tier talent and looks younger than all these girls in this list and a decent amount cheaper.

Hana is prettier than all these girls in this list and is a phenomenal kisser and is very sensual and gives a real girlfriend feel.

Wait @Uniquelyme have you even laid eyes on any of these old broads? Or laid anything else?

Hana was very pretty. Top 10 face for me. I have at least one of the hags ahead of her in that category (I admit, I'd likely be in the monority there).

Hana was indeed a fine kisser. G and C/A blow her away in that category. (Yuri might be close, in my view, but a notch below).

Yuri, of course, to paraphrase the Liam Neeson character in Taken, has a very particular skill that is a bucket list experience before you hang up your monger gloves, and a cute sweet giving enthusiastic girl. But without that particular skill doesnt really stand out from the pack in my view.

Its not just about service either. The bodies are simply not in the same conversation. Even aside from the (enhanced) va va voom factor, neither Yuri or Hana have anything remotely like the fitness or agility level of the others. One of the old broads in particular has breathtaking flexibility.

And neither of the younger girls can compete in artistry. Yep, I said artistry. It matters.

I think ya also gotta factor in that for many of us, English abilities make a difference too. Which is why Aya is rightfully one of the top younger girls nowadays.

So to me personally, it would be beyond ludicrous for a Hana or a Yuri to command more than these particular "older" colleagues.

As you note, the younger girls do ask less. Discussions of value per $ are relevant here, but again, that equation is different for everyone. I mean there are probably some half-decent options in Chinatown or Sunset Park for under 200. Those could be part of the value/$ question as well.

One other thing. I've noticed an (imperfect) correlation between the youth-centric guys and use of aggressive verbs such as "smash", "dig", "destroy", etc. (I'm sure these girls enjoy their time with you young studs. That's not where I'm going with this). And hey I have probably used "pound away" and "jackhammer" from time to time. If I'm not going full throttle for 20 minutes ( after the artistry, though there's artistry during the full throttle too), I'm a bit disappointed. Point here is, I think you guys are looking for different things. I think we're effectively playing different sports. Or at least different versions of a sport. Like grass court tennis vs clay court. I guess I'm a clay court customer...raw speed and power, while still important, isn't enough. The top players need to excel at finesse, angles, spin and strategy too.

So the economics probably depend on the proportion of clay court customers in the market vs grass court customers. My hunch is the price inelastic guys are generally older and generally lean clay court.

Something like that.

Anyway, I think we're all more or less in agreement about different strokes for different folks.....always interesting to hear these perspectives. Even the wrong perspectives.

 

[Uniquelyme]

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Actually, Milk was aging fairly well! Good value too.

https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-milk-redrosespanyc.103159



Wait @Uniquelyme have you even laid eyes on any of these old broads? Or laid anything else?

Hana was very pretty. Top 10 face for me. I have at least one of the hags ahead of her in that category (I admit, I'd likely be in the monority there).

Hana was indeed a fine kisser. G and C/A blow her away in that category. (Yuri might be close, in my view, but a notch below).

Yuri, of course, to paraphrase the Liam Neeson character in Taken, has a very particular skill that is a bucket list experience before you hang up your monger gloves, and a cute sweet giving enthusiastic girl. But without that particular skill doesnt really stand out from the pack in my view.

Its not just about service either. The bodies are simply not in the same conversation. Even aside from the (enhanced) va va voom factor, neither Yuri or Hana have anything remotely like the fitness or agility level of the others. One of the old broads in particular has breathtaking flexibility.

And neither of the younger girls can compete in artistry. Yep, I said artistry. It matters.

I think ya also gotta factor in that for many of us, English abilities make a difference too. Which is why Aya is rightfully one of the top younger girls nowadays.

So to me personally, it would be beyond ludicrous for a Hana or a Yuri to command more than these particular "older" colleagues.

As you note, the younger girls do ask less. Discussions of value per $ are relevant here, but again, that equation is different for everyone. I mean there are probably some half-decent options in Chinatown or Sunset Park for under 200. Those could be part of the value/$ question as well.

One other thing. I've noticed an (imperfect) correlation between the youth-centric guys and use of aggressive verbs such as "smash", "dig", "destroy", etc. (I'm sure these girls enjoy their time with you young studs. That's not where I'm going with this). And hey I have probably used "pound away" and "jackhammer" from time to time. If I'm not going full throttle for 20 minutes ( after the artistry, though there's artistry during the full throttle too), I'm a bit disappointed. Point here is, I think you guys are looking for different things. I think we're effectively playing different sports. Or at least different versions of a sport. Like grass court tennis vs clay court. I guess I'm a clay court customer...raw speed and power, while still important, isn't enough. The top players need to excel at finesse, angles, spin and strategy too.

So the economics probably depend on the proportion of clay court customers in the market vs grass court customers. My hunch is the price inelastic guys are generally older and generally lean clay court.

Something like that.

Anyway, I think we're all more or less in agreement about different strokes for different folks.....always interesting to hear these perspectives. Even the wrong perspectives.

Yes i am looking to be primal with Women in general. Yuri can take the pipe so can Hana ,Helen, Kate less so. Kate was a phenomenal kisser as was Hana and Helen above average. Hana kisses like a bae.

I'm not a huge fan of cosmetic facial surgery and exaggerated enhancements, that is one of the things that lower their value in my eyes. Factor that in with the age and cost and that's why i have no desire to see these pros. All 3 i metioned as far as J girls are all natural. Natural>enhanced in my world.

Always great to have a pleasant conversation. Not trying to change anyones mind just putting in my perspective.

Lastly although i do really enjoy and like K girls they are not superior to J girls in my opinion. J girls are more ymmv but a part of me likes that i get better service from them than others.