Lateness Rant

[scythe01]

Just a rant, but if you are going to be more than 30 mins late to your appointment, please fucking cut your time short or something. Your time is your time and your money is your money but there might be some other monger or two waiting to see the girl you are with and now have to either re-schedule themselves and whatever shit they have going on outside of mongering, see another girl that's available, or choose to wait it out because you want to keep the entirety of your time even though you were the one that was more than 15-30 mins late.

There's some understanding with like 5-10 mins late, even 15 mins in some cases, but wtf more than 30 mins??

/end rant

 

[Tifosigreko]

I get the point of the rant and this is definitely frustrating, but I have to respectfully provide a different point of view which I hold.

If a girl is booked after you and you’re 30 minutes late or ask to extend during the session, IMO it’s on the house to tell you to cut the session short or refuse the extension. If I’m running late, I’m relying on their role as management to tell me whether I can have my full time or whether I need to a. cut the session short or b. pick another girl to see for the longer session.

I try to be considerate of other mongers in the sense of maintaining discretion when we awkwardly pass each other in the hall/building and being a gentleman toward the ladies we all love so much, but proactively cutting my session time to accommodate someone else isn’t a concern for me personally.

If I arrive and a girl isn’t ready because someone extended or showed up late I would never blame the monger. It’s on the girl/house for being unable to manage schedules.

 

[scythe01]

I get the point of the rant and this is definitely frustrating, but I have to respectfully provide a different point of view which I hold.

If a girl is booked after you and you’re 30 minutes late or ask to extend during the session, IMO it’s on the house to tell you to cut the session short or refuse the extension. If I’m running late, I’m relying on their role as management to tell me whether I can have my full time or whether I need to a. cut the session short or b. pick another girl to see for the longer session.

I try to be considerate of other mongers in the sense of maintaining discretion when we awkwardly pass each other in the hall/building and being a gentleman toward the ladies we all love so much, but proactively cutting my session time to accommodate someone else isn’t a concern for me personally.

If I arrive and a girl isn’t ready because someone extended or showed up late I would never blame the monger. It’s on the girl/house for being unable to manage schedules.

I do agree with you. House should also do their job and mention something to the monger, but sometimes house just ends up warning the late monger not to do it again rather than get into talks with them about lowering time or seeing another girl. It's unfortunate. I had to rant because this has happened at least 3 or 4 times now. I was pretty understanding and said "whatever. it happens." with the 5-15 min late ones, but the 30+ minute one got to me.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

Unfortunately, "house" only cares about the squeaky wheel.
Back in the pre-2016 2 rose K-amp days here in NYC, it was common knowledge that polite guys would get bumped for noisy guys.
Happened to me about 2 or 3 times.
One time at Asian Models on 29th I was getting a TS from a girl named Lexi...who was legit 19.
And the MMS came in mid wash and said "oh...sorry...I made a mistake...she had an appt"...
Pulled her out and stuck me with with a late 30s old bag.
I never forgot that.
Some shitbag saw that old bag...complained LOUDLY...and the MMS figured the "nice guy" (me) would not complain about the oldie and she'd give the young girl to the shithead.
Guys...this is how it works in this business!!!
We DO NOT GET REWARDED FOR BEING DECENT!!!
I don't care. I can only be me, and I am CERTAIN that my demeanor has done more good for myself in this life then had I acted like a shitbag.
But just keep in mind. Every now and then, the shitbags will win out.
And unfortunately, it will never be a confrontation between us and them.
Just the very poor judgement of an MMS who will decide what is less trouble for her.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Unfortunately, "house" only cares about the squeaky wheel.
Back in the pre-2016 2 rose K-amp days here in NYC, it was common knowledge that polite guys would get bumped for noisy guys.
Happened to me about 2 or 3 times.
One time at Asian Models on 29th I was getting a TS from a girl named Lexi...who was legit 19.
And the MMS came in mid wash and said "oh...sorry...I made a mistake...she had an appt"...
Pulled her out and stuck me with with a late 30s old bag.
I never forgot that.
Some shitbag saw that old bag...complained LOUDLY...and the MMS figured the "nice guy" (me) would not complain about the oldie and she'd give the young girl to the shithead.
Guys...this is how it works in this business!!!
We DO NOT GET REWARDED FOR BEING DECENT!!!
I don't care. I can only be me, and I am CERTAIN that my demeanor has done more good for myself in this life then had I acted like a shitbag.
But just keep in mind. Every now and then, the shitbags will win out.
And unfortunately, it will never be a confrontation between us and them.
Just the very poor judgement of an MMS who will decide what is less trouble for her.

That happened to me one time with Nat. She pulled my girl out like 10 mins early for some dude and Nat massaged me. It didn't click in my head until like 5 mins later.

 

[EbandFlow]

Just a rant, but if you are going to be more than 30 mins late to your appointment, please fucking cut your time short or something. Your time is your time and your money is your money but there might be some other monger or two waiting to see the girl you are with and now have to either re-schedule themselves and whatever shit they have going on outside of mongering, see another girl that's available, or choose to wait it out because you want to keep the entirety of your time even though you were the one that was more than 15-30 mins late.

There's some understanding with like 5-10 mins late, even 15 mins in some cases, but wtf more than 30 mins??

/end rant

I feel that if a monger is going to be more than 30 mins late, they should just reschedule at that point. But I feel that the house should inform him that he cannot be accommodated and have him reschedule or choose another available girl if she has another appointment right after. If not, the house should be OK with the next guy being VERY upset and throwing a fit about it.

 

[beatnik]

Ohhh man, don’t get me started.

Some of the shops are building in a 5 min turnover time between sessions, which I appreciate.

But yeah, I remember OP griping about this back in Sept in one of my reviews: https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/review-hanako-xoxo.160843/

I can tolerate waiting 10 minutes max. Luckily the shops now know I ain’t tolerating sitting around with my thumb up my ass. And for the record, I’ve never been late for an appointment. And I’ve made a lot of appointments.

I got my punctuality from my old man. Similar to Dwight Schrute, if I’m not 5 minutes early, I’m late.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Just a rant, but if you are going to be more than 30 mins late to your appointment, please fucking cut your time short or something. Your time is your time and your money is your money but there might be some other monger or two waiting to see the girl you are with and now have to either re-schedule themselves and whatever shit they have going on outside of mongering, see another girl that's available, or choose to wait it out because you want to keep the entirety of your time even though you were the one that was more than 15-30 mins late.

There's some understanding with like 5-10 mins late, even 15 mins in some cases, but wtf more than 30 mins??

/end rant

Have this type of energy for management

 

[EbandFlow]

Unfortunately, "house" only cares about the squeaky wheel.
Back in the pre-2016 2 rose K-amp days here in NYC, it was common knowledge that polite guys would get bumped for noisy guys.
Happened to me about 2 or 3 times.
One time at Asian Models on 29th I was getting a TS from a girl named Lexi...who was legit 19.
And the MMS came in mid wash and said "oh...sorry...I made a mistake...she had an appt"...
Pulled her out and stuck me with with a late 30s old bag.
I never forgot that.
Some shitbag saw that old bag...complained LOUDLY...and the MMS figured the "nice guy" (me) would not complain about the oldie and she'd give the young girl to the shithead.
Guys...this is how it works in this business!!!
We DO NOT GET REWARDED FOR BEING DECENT!!!
I don't care. I can only be me, and I am CERTAIN that my demeanor has done more good for myself in this life then had I acted like a shitbag.
But just keep in mind. Every now and then, the shitbags will win out.
And unfortunately, it will never be a confrontation between us and them.
Just the very poor judgement of an MMS who will decide what is less trouble for her.

Dude, that would have made me pissed AF and I would have asked for my money back.

 

[Dro2smoove]

I remember I went to NYAF once to see Lucy, MMS told me she was very busy and booked up, I made the appointment the day before.

I’ve visited that place twice before, never cancelled an appointment or came in late, & she had the nerve to tell me she didn’t know if I was coming in. I even confirmed the appointment the morning of.

She wanted me to see someone else, or wait an hour to see Lucy. Man I walked out of there & went elsewhere

Longest I had wait was about 20 minutes for Victoria H at the old BBG location.

Generally speaking though, I feel the agencies have done a much better job of keeping a steady flow and not having to wait too long. But yea, after 15 minutes of waiting, I’m going to walk somewhere else. Many of these places are walking distance from each other or a 2-3 train stops away

 

[scythe01]

Have this type of energy for management

Lol I sometimes do when it happens and am like, "Sooo what's the deal? What's going on?" to them, when I'm stuck waiting there. But it's not gonna do "me" any good if I say more than that or by giving more attitude in the middle of the shop while I am there.

 

[nycwhitelinen]

This goes back to house booking the girls back to back with absolutely no break or cushion for girls and themselves incase of late arrivals.

Poor girls will need to perform back to back to be in good reviews. Sometimes, i feel so bad.

Last time i went to see a girl afternoon (dont want to mention the name to protect my identity) . After the session i brought the lunch and dropped it back at front desk because she told me atleast 3 times she was hungry during the session. They do offer lunch to these girls but they eat in such a hurry.

 

[Nutopia1]

Unfortunately, "house" only cares about the squeaky wheel.
Back in the pre-2016 2 rose K-amp days here in NYC, it was common knowledge that polite guys would get bumped for noisy guys.
Happened to me about 2 or 3 times.
One time at Asian Models on 29th I was getting a TS from a girl named Lexi...who was legit 19.
And the MMS came in mid wash and said "oh...sorry...I made a mistake...she had an appt"...
Pulled her out and stuck me with with a late 30s old bag.
I never forgot that.
Some shitbag saw that old bag...complained LOUDLY...and the MMS figured the "nice guy" (me) would not complain about the oldie and she'd give the young girl to the shithead.
Guys...this is how it works in this business!!!
We DO NOT GET REWARDED FOR BEING DECENT!!!
I don't care. I can only be me, and I am CERTAIN that my demeanor has done more good for myself in this life then had I acted like a shitbag.
But just keep in mind. Every now and then, the shitbags will win out.
And unfortunately, it will never be a confrontation between us and them.
Just the very poor judgement of an MMS who will decide what is less trouble for her.

I remember Lexi. Young and very pretty. Always rejected a 3rd pop but can't blame her .

 

[User826]

I wrote about this in another thread. City Place is on my no go list for the foreseeable future because of this.

 

[NycHentaiguy]

Lol happen to me at ddy few times.. I once waited 30 minutes I was mind blown actually

 

[richardp2918]

Unfortunately, "house" only cares about the squeaky wheel.
Back in the pre-2016 2 rose K-amp days here in NYC, it was common knowledge that polite guys would get bumped for noisy guys.
Happened to me about 2 or 3 times.
One time at Asian Models on 29th I was getting a TS from a girl named Lexi...who was legit 19.
And the MMS came in mid wash and said "oh...sorry...I made a mistake...she had an appt"...
Pulled her out and stuck me with with a late 30s old bag.
I never forgot that.
Some shitbag saw that old bag...complained LOUDLY...and the MMS figured the "nice guy" (me) would not complain about the oldie and she'd give the young girl to the shithead.
Guys...this is how it works in this business!!!
We DO NOT GET REWARDED FOR BEING DECENT!!!
I don't care. I can only be me, and I am CERTAIN that my demeanor has done more good for myself in this life then had I acted like a shitbag.
But just keep in mind. Every now and then, the shitbags will win out.
And unfortunately, it will never be a confrontation between us and them.
Just the very poor judgement of an MMS who will decide what is less trouble for her.

I've been going to MG a TON over the last 6 months, but I think they're just taking me for granted now. I was about 10 minutes late, which I told them about on my way there. When I got there, the girl I was supposed to see was 5 minutes late and the MMS told me I had to finish 10 minutes early bc they had another monger scheduled with a firm start time on the hour and the girl had to prep.

I assumed the manager would just charge me the appropriate amount, maybe 30 minutes, but she insisted on charging me for the full hour. I know it's a grey area since I was 10 minutes late, but the house itself was shaving 15 minutes off my time and to charge me the full hour left a very bad taste in my mouth. I didn't argue as it was the girl who was pretty new and she was just doing what the MMS instructed her to do.

On the way out, I mentioned this to the MMS and she was trying to rush me out the door, but I insisted on making my point at which she made some bullshit promise about a discount next time, which is obvious nonsense since she could just make it right, right there and then if she felt like it. Haven't been back since, tempted tho as I am. It's really not much money, I wouldn't even think about it if I was getting a drink or two somewhere, but it's just the bad practice and entitlement that annoys me.

 

[The REAL Bxbrown]

I've been going to MG a TON over the last 6 months, but I think they're just taking me for granted now. I was about 10 minutes late, which I told them about on my way there. When I got there, the girl I was supposed to see was 5 minutes late and the MMS told me I had to finish 10 minutes early bc they had another monger scheduled with a firm start time on the hour and the girl had to prep.

I assumed the manager would just charge me the appropriate amount, maybe 30 minutes, but she insisted on charging me for the full hour. I know it's a grey area since I was 10 minutes late, but the house itself was shaving 15 minutes off my time and to charge me the full hour left a very bad taste in my mouth. I didn't argue as it was the girl who was pretty new and she was just doing what the MMS instructed her to do.

On the way out, I mentioned this to the MMS and she was trying to rush me out the door, but I insisted on making my point at which she made some bullshit promise about a discount next time, which is obvious nonsense since she could just make it right, right there and then if she felt like it. Haven't been back since, tempted tho as I am. It's really not much money, I wouldn't even think about it if I was getting a drink or two somewhere, but it's just the bad practice and entitlement that annoys me.

That's your fault for not standing up for your rights as a consumer. I like the mms at MG a lot, I really do, but I LOVE my money and my time, so fuck that. I flat out say it from the start "If I'm not getting my full hour, I'm leaving." and yup, I've done that at MG too and the mms knows it. I always try to be on time or even early. At MG specifically I was early and the dude was taking too long. I left. The mms sent me some text and I told her this was her fault and I kept it pushing. The next time I saw her, I reminded her not to screw with my time again. For a whole year she's been on her best behavior and if a girl is not available for my time she knows not to pull that shit cuz I will leave.

 

[richardp2918]

That's your fault for not standing up for your rights as a consumer. I like the mms at MG a lot, I really do, but I LOVE my money and my time, so fuck that. I flat out say it from the start "If I'm not getting my full hour, I'm leaving." and yup, I've done that at MG too and the mms knows it. I always try to be on time or even early. At MG specifically I was early and the dude was taking too long. I left. The mms sent me some text and I told her this was her fault and I kept it pushing. The next time I saw her, I reminded her not to screw with my time again. For a whole year she's been on her best behavior and if a girl is not available for my time she knows not to pull that shit cuz I will leave.

Maybe. I naively assumed the MMS wouldn't take advantage since I've been going there so much the last few months. I would've stood my ground if it was the MMS that mentioned it, but she smartly left it unsaid and had the girl tell me and she was new to the biz so I went along. If and when I do go back, I'll make sure to bring it up with her. I don't usually get played for a chump, so lesson learned.

 

[The REAL Bxbrown]

Maybe. I naively assumed the MMS wouldn't take advantage since I've been going there so much the last few months. I would've stood my ground if it was the MMS that mentioned it, but she smartly left it unsaid and had the girl tell me and she was new to the biz so I went along. If and when I do go back, I'll make sure to bring it up with her. I don't usually get played for a chump, so lesson learned.

My man, you should have hit the brakes the sec they told you they were cutting your time. I pay for the hour, I get the hour. You want me for 45 mins, I pay for 45 mins. That simple. You want me out in 30, I pay for 30. I was a WSD a few nights ago, I heard the mms tell the dude "oh, you can only do hhr today because it's late". I know myself, I can't finish in anything under an hour, I just can't. When they say that kinda shit to me, I start getting dressed immediately. It's as natural a reaction as pulling my hand away from getting burned, no hesitation at all. ALL the places I go to know that I'm there for the hour AT LEAST and I need every sec, again, I pay for the hour, I get the hour, period.

 

[richardp2918]

My man, you should have hit the brakes the sec they told you they were cutting your time. I pay for the hour, I get the hour. You want me for 45 mins, I pay for 45 mins. That simple. You want me out in 30, I pay for 30. I was a WSD a few nights ago, I heard the mms tell the dude "oh, you can only do hhr today because it's late". I know myself, I can't finish in anything under an hour, I just can't. When they say that kinda shit to me, I start getting dressed immediately. It's as natural a reaction as pulling my hand away from getting burned, no hesitation at all. ALL the places I go to know that I'm there for the hour AT LEAST and I need every sec, again, I pay for the hour, I get the hour, period.

I hear you. My mistake was trusting the MMS. I'll settle for 30 if that's all that's available, especially since I was 10 minutes late, but I didn't expect her to charge me an hour for 30 minutes considering how often I've been going there. I gave her too much credit, I thought she was smarter and more long term oriented than to act like a fly by night tourist trap operator with a long term volume client. Live and learn.