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Online Dating and Sugar Baby Scams

VJLUTZ

Desire is the opposite of death.
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Came across this today. Looks like some scary stuff; it's easy to understand why someone might shit-their-pants and panic. When I was on Seeking Arrangements, I had at least two contacts try to scam me. One I saw coming a mile away and was easy to dismiss. That one wanted me to send "her" airfare so she could come and meet me. Obviously, I passed.

The other was much more alarming. Basically, a girl (mid 20s) invited me to video chat. During the chat, she did a striptease and started masturbating. Definitely did not expect her to do that. It was quite the show and, of course, it got me very excited. Then she encouraged me to whip out my dick so we could both climax. Luckily, I declined. After it was clear I wasn't going to cooperate, she called me a explicative and terminated the chat. Fifteen minutes later, she contacted me and informed me she had recorded the whole thing and was going to post it on some amateur porn site. Initially, that scared the shit out of me. But then, since all I had done was watch, I realized I had nothing to fear. It may have been embarrassing, but not that embarrassing. So, I told her to go ahead; I let her know it was far more embarrassing to her than to me and that I'd done nothing wrong. Never heard back from her after that. Maybe she posted it, but I suspect she didn't (I actually checked the site for about a week and saw nothing). Methinks she was counting on me to panic and offer her $$ not to post it. She was smart enough not to ask for money directly as that would have been cut-and-dry blackmail. I just feel fortunate that I kept both my heads cool during the whole incident. It was definitely a wake-up call as to what kind of creepy crawlers are out there.

Anyway, thoughts or experiences are appreciated. The floor is open.

https://breaking911.com/online-daters-lost-thousands-in-nude-photo-scam-prosecutors-say/
 

Njgent

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My brush with a scammer. I saw her new profile on Adult Friend Finder. She had trouble accessing my photo album on AFF and left her email address. After an initial email from me she responded:

Hello ----,

Nice hearing back from you and thanks for the photos.I have attached a couple of mine too.Well, let's get started with a little about me.The name's Laura, guess you already know.I'm 33 young, 5'8, 143lbs.I'm the only child of my late parents, never married, got no kid, live in the Bayonne area.I have my Bsc in business management and art.I'm self employed, into the sales of sculptures, gold, antiques, fashion materials, etc.I'm mentally stable, physically fit, bunch of laughs, warm, very caring, honest and a good listener. I'm also God fearing and very positive.I love to play golf and enjoy chilling with friends, I like going to the movies or watching movies at home, I like swimming, fishing, listening to music, dancing, travelling, bowling and also a good cook. I'm very touchy and love to give foot massages.I love jokes and seeing smiles on people's face.There is more, but it would be better to find out for yourself

I got some questions for you, hope you'll answer them in your next email.

What makes you the person you are today?

How long have you been in this internet dating thing? Any luck yet?

I want to know more about, background, life experiences, goals, interests and anything you feel like sharing

Have a good night

Laura

I responded with a little bit about myself. Her follow up:

Hi ----

How's your day going? Nice learning about you, it seems you got your life together which is pretty awesome.Though you're older but I think you're young at heart.Hope my questions didn't seem like an interview? Just getting to know you better

As you already know I'm into trade, deal in gold, antiques, sculptures, paintings and art works, an inherited business I took up after my late dad which I enjoy doing a lot.Its involves traveling, meeting people of different race and culture, sharing ideas and some other benefits.With that being said, I want someone I can share some quality time with when our schedules permit.I understand you're married and am not looking to change that.My kind of man has to know how to get down and dirty whether out in the mountain four-wheeling or working on his car, know how to clean up nice and make a girl feel special.Shy guys are great but he needs to be able to warm up after a bit and not be afraid to take control of the situation in an awkward moment.I would like to meet someone who shares my interests (not necessarily all, but at least some of them), honest, easy going, fun loving and caring.Would be committed to a fwb kind of situation with the right person, would get to know me for who I am and open to trying new things.Looking forward to your reply

Warm regards
Laura

I suggested meeting and her response:

Hello ----

It's always a pleasure reading from you.Getting to know each other is like flipping through the pages of a book or some will say like an onion with each layer and the more you peel, the fresher the layer, same applies to a new friend.I know you'd like to meet but I have a flight to catch in a couple of hours.I'm travelling to Malaysia on business, to buy some gold and antiques, will be spending a week or thereabout, pending on how my dealings go.

We have a lot to catch up on, probably over dinner or something, we should make plans for when I get back.I'll be in touch while in Kuala Lumpur as we continue to learn more about each other.I'm trying this online dating scene for the first time, have chatted with some guys here but they all seem to want something different, some want a night stand while others want cyber sex, which am not in for.I would really love to give us a try and hope it works out fine.I'll stop here cos I'll be leaving for the airport soon

Thinking much about you,
Laura

Her next email:

Hi ----

Hope you're having a great weekend? My apologies for taking forever to write you as I have been busy since I got here.My trip was very long and tiring but thank goodness I arrived in one piece.Sorry I bailed out on you, have been making plans for this trip for a while now.Like you're already aware, am here on business to buy some Asian golds and antiques.Ever since dad's demise, I've been trying to upgrade his business and am glad it's working out gradually.I lost my mom when I was barely 2 so I grew up with knowing just my dad.He contributed immensely to my life and I missed him very much.

Love hasn't been fair to me, my ex was a cheat so I decided to give me a break from relationships.I have been single for some months then a friend introduced me to internet dating.I want you to know that I have been thinking much about you despite the fact that we haven't really met.I think you are one great guy with whom I can't wait to explore my sexual life.Hope we can spend some quality time together when I get back? Have a great day

Hugs and kisses from afar
Laura

Up until now I didn't see any red flags until I received this:

My Dearest ----

How are you doing at the moment? It's early Sunday morning here and am just lying in thinking about you.Being all alone in a hotel room hasn't been much fun for me, I could really use your company here.You seem very romantic, I like that.Like I said, I do love sex, just need the right partner to explore every bit of it.The rest of the email will tell you more

I'm all horny at home and I need you so badly.I make up an excuse asking you to my place to fix a loose electrical outlet.Once you arrive, I show you the loose outlet and hand you a screwdriver.While you're fixing it, I walk behind you and place my hand on your shoulder. You look up and see me in a sexy lingerie.You couldn't resist the sight of this, so you pull me closer to you, my skin touches yours and it feels so soft, our eyes stare deeply into each other's soul.A moment passes and we kiss, slowly at first, our mouths exploring.You shudder in anticipation that this is really happening.Your hands starts to explore my body while we continue to explore each others mouths.I quickly stop and leave the room so you can finish the repair

You complete the repair and I call you in asking for your help.You find me in the shower and immediately join me, we proceed to pleasuring each other while in the shower.You take the shower massage and set it to pulse and start to run it's stream all over my body and I start to moan.You get on your knees and start to eat me using the pulse of the water jet on my clit rotating between your tongue and the water stream.I'm moaning even more when all of a sudden I quiver, grab your head and cum all over you.You lick me all over tasting my juices.Now you take me and start sucking on my nipples while my hands roam all over you.I suggest we die off and continue on the bed.

We dry each other off and proceed to the bed where we start to kiss, long silky passionate kisses.I start to move down your belly licking and flicking my tongue till I take your cock in my hand and start to run my tongue up and down the shaft.I take one of your balls in and suck it so gently.My mouth is so warm and feels so good that you moan in delight.I stop and kiss you deep while you're rubbing my nipples, I moan again and tell you not to stop.You move your face from mine and take a nipple in your mouth and tease it with your tongue, I moan louder.You feel my body quiver again.You are still not done with foreplay.You can't get enough of my body.I position myself on my knees with my ass high in the air and you run your tongue all over it, spanking each cheek so slightly.Again you taste my clit and I moan, this time you position yourself and start to hit me from the rear.I'll leave the rest of the scenario to your thoughts, lol.

Omg! I can't believe I just wrote all that.Forgive me for being so naughty, it's just that I feel comfortable pouring out my heart to you, really can't wait for all this to become a reality.Got your picture with your girls, they are so pretty and you're very luck to have them.Nothing beats family time.I'll be through with my business soon, just need to get my stuffs inspected and bonded for shipment, then I'll go get my flight itinerary back home.I was wondering if you can pick me up at the airport? Let me have your cell number

Horny Thoughts
Laura

I thought I was reading a Penthouse Forum letter. The next day I woke up to two emails from her. One was her flight itinerary and again asking to be picked up at the airport. The 2nd email:

Hello ----,

Hope you had a great day? I just got my itinerary this morning and I've sent it to you in a previous email.It's scheduled to leave on Teusday, will be arriving EWR on Wednesday by 1:15 PM.Let me know if you can make it to the airport to pick me up

Something came up at the seaport yesterday and it has really left me in a state of worry.Can I ask you a favor?

Laura

After the over the top Penthouse letter, I started digging. I had already googled her photos but didn't find any hits. However, when I looked at the headers of emails, all had an origin IP address out of Singapore. I could understand that for her alleged trip, but not for the first couple of emails supposedly sent while still in NJ.

My response:

Favor? Let me guess. Your goods are being held and you need a money order to free them. I've played along long enough. I noticed early on that the first 2 emails you sent, supposedly from nj were actually from a Singapore ip address. I'm in IT and can easily spot that. Take your scam elsewhere.
 

Spiront

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Unfortunately, most dating sites have approximately 80-90% of the "girls' to be either working for these sites trying to scam men or simple bots spamming your inbox. Have seen my share of scammers - some even try to make you believe that they love you already without meeting you, knowing you, etc.
There is an ongoing scam with "Colombian", "Venezuelan" girls. Quite often they use the pictures of one cam model all over. That is specifically true when you see that they're "on Roosevelt" and in South Jersey. Keep that in mind, guys, beware.
 

AutomaticSlim

I'm your night prowler... Get out of my way...
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Unfortunately, most dating sites have approximately 80-90% of the "girls' to be either working for these sites trying to scam men or simple bots spamming your inbox. Have seen my share of scammers - some even try to make you believe that they love you already without meeting you, knowing you, etc.
There is an ongoing scam with "Colombian", "Venezuelan" girls. Quite often they use the pictures of one cam model all over. That is specifically true when you see that they're "on Roosevelt" and in South Jersey. Keep that in mind, guys, beware.
Last week on my SA account (basic/free member -- only paid twice for a month's worth) a hot, 18 y/o "college girl" sent me a message.
And...she's right here in my town!
How lucky can I be!
I better renew that subscription immediately so I can meet her!!!
 

Spiront

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Last week on my SA account (basic/free member -- only paid twice for a month's worth) a hot, 18 y/o "college girl" sent me a message.
And...she's right here in my town!
How lucky can I be!
I better renew that subscription immediately so I can meet her!!!
Lol Yea, exactly!
 

TGBeldin

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Last week on my SA account (basic/free member -- only paid twice for a month's worth) a hot, 18 y/o "college girl" sent me a message.
And...she's right here in my town!
How lucky can I be!
I better renew that subscription immediately so I can meet her!!!
Too late! She got tired of waiting for you so she sent me the same e-mail. :ROFLMAO:
 

didi88

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Came across this today. Looks like some scary stuff; it's easy to understand why someone might shit-their-pants and panic. When I was on Seeking Arrangements, I had at least two contacts try to scam me. One I saw coming a mile away and was easy to dismiss. That one wanted me to send "her" airfare so she could come and meet me. Obviously, I passed.

The other was much more alarming. Basically, a girl (mid 20s) invited me to video chat. During the chat, she did a striptease and started masturbating. Definitely did not expect her to do that. It was quite the show and, of course, it got me very excited. Then she encouraged me to whip out my dick so we could both climax. Luckily, I declined. After it was clear I wasn't going to cooperate, she called me a explicative and terminated the chat. Fifteen minutes later, she contacted me and informed me she had recorded the whole thing and was going to post it on some amateur porn site. Initially, that scared the shit out of me. But then, since all I had done was watch, I realized I had nothing to fear. It may have been embarrassing, but not that embarrassing. So, I told her to go ahead; I let her know it was far more embarrassing to her than to me and that I'd done nothing wrong. Never heard back from her after that. Maybe she posted it, but I suspect she didn't (I actually checked the site for about a week and saw nothing). Methinks she was counting on me to panic and offer her $$ not to post it. She was smart enough not to ask for money directly as that would have been cut-and-dry blackmail. I just feel fortunate that I kept both my heads cool during the whole incident. It was definitely a wake-up call as to what kind of creepy crawlers are out there.

Anyway, thoughts or experiences are appreciated. The floor is open.

https://breaking911.com/online-daters-lost-thousands-in-nude-photo-scam-prosecutors-say/
This illustrates the need to be extra careful on sites like SA. I try to stay as anonymous as possible. Never release real photo before meeting, no face time or video chats, give fake name, hobby phone #, hobby email, and fake backstory. Even after I’ve been with the girl multiple times, I stick with the fake persona. You never know when one might turn on you, and if that happens, you don’t want her knowing any of your personal info
 

Bricktop

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Came across this today. Looks like some scary stuff; it's easy to understand why someone might shit-their-pants and panic. When I was on Seeking Arrangements, I had at least two contacts try to scam me. One I saw coming a mile away and was easy to dismiss. That one wanted me to send "her" airfare so she could come and meet me. Obviously, I passed.

The other was much more alarming. Basically, a girl (mid 20s) invited me to video chat. During the chat, she did a striptease and started masturbating. Definitely did not expect her to do that. It was quite the show and, of course, it got me very excited. Then she encouraged me to whip out my dick so we could both climax. Luckily, I declined. After it was clear I wasn't going to cooperate, she called me a explicative and terminated the chat. Fifteen minutes later, she contacted me and informed me she had recorded the whole thing and was going to post it on some amateur porn site. Initially, that scared the shit out of me. But then, since all I had done was watch, I realized I had nothing to fear. It may have been embarrassing, but not that embarrassing. So, I told her to go ahead; I let her know it was far more embarrassing to her than to me and that I'd done nothing wrong. Never heard back from her after that. Maybe she posted it, but I suspect she didn't (I actually checked the site for about a week and saw nothing). Methinks she was counting on me to panic and offer her $$ not to post it. She was smart enough not to ask for money directly as that would have been cut-and-dry blackmail. I just feel fortunate that I kept both my heads cool during the whole incident. It was definitely a wake-up call as to what kind of creepy crawlers are out there.

Anyway, thoughts or experiences are appreciated. The floor is open.

https://breaking911.com/online-daters-lost-thousands-in-nude-photo-scam-prosecutors-say/
Never ever video chat w these gals. Never ever.
 

Maple Garden

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Many of the Asians on benign sites like match.com are in the massage business. I’ve sat with a few while they were setting up their profile on several dating sites. They often list their occupation as beautician, nails or hair stylist. There is an Asian dating site I got invited to join on WC. I was looking thru the profiles and saw pictures of a few providers. I’m trying to decide if I should show them their profile. I think not, it might prove embarrassing. I’m going to stick to spas. You end up with the same women, regardless of where you meet them, spa, dating service, agency, hotel, or the street. Spas are safer. At least for now. One thing these women learn is to have maximize their exposure to meet as many different kinds of men. This allows them to earn at different levels of the socioeconomic ladder. Of course not all are cut out for agency work but they go for as many levels as possible.
 

chunfun

I got lipstick stamps on my passport...
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Back in the early days, when Yahoo dating was free and AFF had great subscribers, I got laid quite a bit with only minimal scams. Those scams usually involved America R&T shop girls setting up "dates". Once I saw where the address was, I still went in, because! I managed to get a nice massage and HJ from one. The other gave me FS, because I followed through on my promise. I bought her an outfit from Victoria's Secret, and took it off with my mouth. Good times.

Now, everybody is so transactional. They want cash upfront, then they want "favors" (bills paid, weed, booze, tats, etc.).

Recently posted a SA profile. My junk folder exploded!
 
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