As for Elitist, they have a party this Sunday and I'm curious. Run by Jackie who those in the fetish community will know. Her last one subtly hinted at gang bangs. Anybody attended can verify?
My long held thoughts on GB and single guy swingers clubs are the same for Elitist. I went there. 40-45 men, 12 women. Remove 5 men and 3 women as staff. Things get blurry then. 3 girls were open to anyone and matress queens. 2 highly picky girls I know from other swinger clubs sort of played but didnt do that many guys.
Hottest new chick that wasn't property of a man, told me she is a lesbian and doesn't play except with women (why you come to hetro party then?). Even if she was unicorn, there was no chance to play with a M/F couple as a threesome since the play area was too small with only 2 beds and 2 women at any time. Any woman on a bed wouldve automatically started a GB. Selection was impossible since it was 20-25 men waiting for 2-4 women. Some standup sex happened too.
This event uses paid hostesses (most gangbangs do). One of the hostesses who I recognized as a ROB stripper from another club had a long donation fight with a manager and walked out 30 minutes in. The event was not P4P and even if some women wouldve been open to gifts, there was no chance of play time and keeping uninvited cocks away during playtime. Venue was too small.
I will say the bar and mingle area were really relaxed. Zero pressure on ladies to fuck if they stay near the bar. I brought my bootycall with me, for once no man said "why did you come to a swingers party if you aren't gonna let me fuck your woman" or "why havent you fucked yet? when are you going to do it". Ive heard both lines at other single men allowed more above ground swingers clubs many times.
You will get laid if you to Elite, you just have no selection what she will look like. Reverse bedpage. Even if I joined the line, I wouldve been standing 3 layers of men deep around a bed with too many hard wrapped cocks behind me. High locker room BO too. Some of you hobbyests dont shower.
Fetish Affairs has competitors in NYC. Footpad and new footspot party are close enough to Fetish. Ive been to parties that have no marketing, it is a "we (your top hoe) find you, you dont find us" party. Some stripper or sugarbaby or hotel working girl has to invite you and vouch that you have cash to spend to management. Certain strip clubs on slow days send their dancers to private parties.The dancer is told it is a bachlor party, but it Cest La Vie or Masked Nights or Live Play Love instead.