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Price change in AL

AmituofoNY

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An AMP would need to raise a Series B/C to be able to afford rent in downtown SF...
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: but given the size of rounds these days a decent Seed round should be enough.

There are AMP's in downtown SF they are just "chinese grandma" places with signs out front, where as in the burbs you have Korean gfe orgs.
 

Alvin Lee

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There is a great movie called The Butcher with Eric Roberts. It co stars Robert Davi and the great Michael Ironside ( remember him from Top Gun), as a bagman/ hitman. In the beginning Eric is having a flashback of a conversation with Michael about doing hits right as he is getting ready to do one. He remembers speaking to Michael who was giving him advce at the time. Michael told him, " the great onces have style -they have panache" . Mongers this is what separates the great ones from the ones that come and go especially on this side of the street. Chanel ,Ayana, Koreanna, Nicole Doshi, Amie, and Gina, they have style, they have what cannot be taught. They are the great ones.

Chanel used to work at Hot lips for 200.00. in 2017. I told her once she could easily get three make the same and work less or work the same and make more. She told me, in her soft but unbending manner that her cusomters come first, and she wants fo be busy every day. Ayana same thing 350 for a PSE in an apartment private setting for one hour. I told her the same she was adamant. she would not raise her rates. Same with Gina, she is gorgeous and sweet. Provides THE GF PSE experience. Their clients come first. That is the edict they live and profit by. Panache my friends, the great ones always have panache

pa·nache -- flamboyant confidence of style or manner.
 

Mortimer

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There is a great movie called The Butcher with Eric Roberts. It co stars Robert Davi and the great Michael Ironside ( remember him from Top Gun), as a bagman/ hitman. In the beginning Eric is having a flashback of a conversation with Michael about doing hits right as he is getting ready to do one. He remembers speaking to Michael who was giving him advce at the time. Michael told him, " the great onces have style -they have panache" . Mongers this is what separates the great ones from the ones that come and go especially on this side of the street. Chanel ,Ayana, Koreanna, Nicole Doshi, Amie, and Gina, they have style, they have what cannot be taught. They are the great ones.

Chanel used to work at Hot lips for 200.00. in 2017. I told her once she could easily get three make the same and work less or work the same and make more. She told me, in her soft but unbending manner that her cusomters come first, and she wants fo be busy every day. Ayana same thing 350 for a PSE in an apartment private setting for one hour. I told her the same she was adamant. she would not raise her rates. Same with Gina, she is gorgeous and sweet. Provides THE GF PSE experience. Their clients come first. That is the edict they live and profit by. Panache my friends, the great ones always have panache

pa·nache -- flamboyant confidence of style or manner.
HotLips Chanel is also known for having poor business sense.

Ayana had to un-retire multiple times because of money woes.
 

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To me the button line is we can't ignore/avoid the "Law of Economics"....someone here mention SF bay area living standard is comparable to NYC but they only raise their stand hr rate from 220 to 240 (or 260 have someone else mention here). But you all know that Bay area has plenty of talent equal to some of your favorites here. Why they want to raise their rate, well you also need to count into inflation too right??

(in my opinion) Few years ago, there were plenty of independent and my mean go to was Tiffany/Tara and Ayana...well we know where Tiffany and Tara, but i have no idea where Ayana went when this pandemic started, we just lost touch.....but i've starting to notice, there are way less independent (that got the look, service wise, and the price range) in NYC compare to what it was use to be few years back.....

Even if you look at all the ladies in agencies, it's way down too because i know many of you (including myself) asking where are those other favorites went? so therefore i think, given the agency establishment have to paid the ladies the rent and all, i'm not surprise they raised their rate.

Does it hurt my wallet, sure i'm not going to lie about that...but it is what it is...like someone said here "supply & demand"..."law of economics".
 

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I beg to differ. As I get on in years, I often ponder where I would like to relocate. Yes it is way chearper to live in Youngstown Ohio, or Akron. Also cheaper upstate in say Rome or Buffalo. One consideration of course is- what am i going to do for pussy when I get there. I have combed through those ads, and to coin a phrase , I wouldnt fuck her with your dick. The pickings are very slim in smaller states. Forget about hot K girls. Nada. It is basically scrappy ho's with 15 minute specials in your car . Oh yeah, sounds great lol. Some of them even have teeth in the front when they smile. As an added bonus, LE keeps a watchful eye out there . More police and less people to keep track of, They also have small town intellect. Everyone has their nose in everyone else's business. The neighbors will call if they see a ho bag on your front porch. Not much selection or privacy out in the boonies.

If you need to think about 20 bucks, or even an increase from 260 to 300 now 320, maybe this isn't the game for you. You want to play, you have to pay. In business the mantra is, if you need to think about the rent, then don't go into business. Plenty of young grls here.And those older ones you refer to, as still young to me, thye are mostly built to kill and can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch. LA, Verga, Miami, all the same price as here, hell even the good Philly cat houses are up to 280-300. As soon as the tourism trade returns to the city, there will be planty of business for all. Most important, let's see what the June primary discloses as our NYC mayoral front runners. That will tell us all a lot about where this industry goes.
It's the principle. I could afford more but an increase of $40 in 2 years is steep.
 

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There is a great movie called The Butcher with Eric Roberts. It co stars Robert Davi and the great Michael Ironside ( remember him from Top Gun), as a bagman/ hitman. In the beginning Eric is having a flashback of a conversation with Michael about doing hits right as he is getting ready to do one. He remembers speaking to Michael who was giving him advce at the time. Michael told him, " the great onces have style -they have panache" . Mongers this is what separates the great ones from the ones that come and go especially on this side of the street. Chanel ,Ayana, Koreanna, Nicole Doshi, Amie, and Gina, they have style, they have what cannot be taught. They are the great ones.

Chanel used to work at Hot lips for 200.00. in 2017. I told her once she could easily get three make the same and work less or work the same and make more. She told me, in her soft but unbending manner that her cusomters come first, and she wants fo be busy every day. Ayana same thing 350 for a PSE in an apartment private setting for one hour. I told her the same she was adamant. she would not raise her rates. Same with Gina, she is gorgeous and sweet. Provides THE GF PSE experience. Their clients come first. That is the edict they live and profit by. Panache my friends, the great ones always have panache

pa·nache -- flamboyant confidence of style or manner.
You are telling a pro she could raise her rates and get it easily. That is horrible you are pros before bros.

People with your mindset are part of the problem imo.
 

Sammy The Bull

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The difference btw 300 and 320 is marginal. If a girl at AL has the type of tits I like to suck or sucks dick or rims the way I like am I not going to see her because it's going cost me an extra 20 which is the mere cost of a lap dance?
 

Alvin Lee

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To me the button line is we can't ignore/avoid the "Law of Economics"....someone here mention SF bay area living standard is comparable to NYC but they only raise their stand hr rate from 220 to 240 (or 260 have someone else mention here). But you all know that Bay area has plenty of talent equal to some of your favorites here. Why they want to raise their rate, well you also need to count into inflation too right??

(in my opinion) Few years ago, there were plenty of independent and my mean go to was Tiffany/Tara and Ayana...well we know where Tiffany and Tara, but i have no idea where Ayana went when this pandemic started, we just lost touch.....but i've starting to notice, there are way less independent (that got the look, service wise, and the price range) in NYC compare to what it was use to be few years back.....

Even if you look at all the ladies in agencies, it's way down too because i know many of you (including myself) asking where are those other favorites went? so therefore i think, given the agency establishment have to paid the ladies the rent and all, i'm not surprise they raised their rate.

Does it hurt my wallet, sure i'm not going to lie about that...but it is what it is...like someone said here "supply & demand"..."law of economics".
When I was tadpole on the prowl I drove a targa top Porsche 911. I parked on a hill it poured and when I opened the door it was like a scene from Risky Business - who’s the U boat commander .
They charged me 1300.00 back in 1985 for new seals . I bitched as I was paying - their response which is very applicable to this conversation

“ you want to play , you have to pay”

As far as Ayana she pops up on P411 once in a while different cities including here - expand search to all cities . She was in Hawaii last I heard late 2020 using the new monicker Asian Ayana . One greats inside and out , possessing that panache I mentioned earlier .
 

Alvin Lee

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You are telling a pro she could raise her rates and get it easily. That is horrible you are pros before bros.

People with your mindset are part of the problem imo.
thinning the heard lol - I’m not telling them anything they haven’t thought about on their own I didn’t sponsor an epiphany into their pricing regimen.

As the great Chris Rock once profoundly exclaimed -“ pussy cost money and dick is for free”
 

Alvin Lee

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You are telling a pro she could raise her rates and get it easily. That is horrible you are pros before bros.

People with your mindset are part of the problem imo.
Also think about this - was your rent the same in 2019 as was in 2016-17? No it went up every year .

In 2020 rents nose dived supply and demand driven by Covid .

At first rates with AMP went up because less of them were working ROI in play and ROR -
Some raised rates and others were just happy to have business - we were scare to go. They were scare to keep their doors open- but , they the AMP MMS saw that they could get more because less girls were working

Once they saw they could get more - it raised the bar . Within a year every AMP will get 350
 

cm47toimaim

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How does Manhattan, all inclusive GFE model stores compare to the Flushing multi-tiered itemized options model?

Are they at par or has Flushing been pushing the envelope…?
 

Sammy The Bull

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Also think about this - was your rent the same in 2019 as was in 2016-17? No it went up every year .

In 2020 rents nose dived supply and demand driven by Covid .

At first rates with AMP went up because less of them were working ROI in play and ROR -
Some raised rates and others were just happy to have business - we were scare to go. They were scare to keep their doors open- but , they the AMP MMS saw that they could get more because less girls were working

Once they saw they could get more - it raised the bar . Within a year every AMP will get 350
Also we all have $ in the market even if it's 401k. Even if you had only 250k in the 401k at the pre Covid top you made 75k for doing nothing ( S&P 500 is up 30% from then).
So why sweat the extra $20 when you have $75,000 extra ? I don't get it .
 

Alvin Lee

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Also we all have $ in the market even if it's 401k. Even if you had only 250k in the 401k at the pre Covid top you made 75k for doing nothing ( S&P 500 is up 30% from then).
So why sweat the extra $20 when you have $75,000 extra ? I don't get it .
There are so many people living paycheck to paycheck - look at the unemployment claims in NYC . The average American doesn’t have 400 dollars in the bank . We cannot assume everyone has the financial resolve you mention herein .

I am assuming Sammy if the mongers here had it to spend, they wouldn’t be ragging about it . As old Willy Shakespeare said “ thou doth protest too much”
 

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There are so many people living paycheck to paycheck - look at the unemployment claims in NYC . The average American doesn’t have 400 dollars in the bank . We cannot assume everyone has the financial resolve you mention herein .

I am assuming Sammy if the mongers here had it to spend, they wouldn’t be ragging about it . As old Willy Shakespeare said “ thou doth protest too much”
While this is true I think it's safe to say that mongers with the financial means to go to places like AL and blow $300 on a regular basis are not living paycheck to paycheck. The point of my post is that one needs to consider the price increase in the context of your whole financial picture. Even if the 401k is just 25k the $7500 extra you have justifies the $20. Whatever your worth is composed of it's a lot more now than a few yrs ago .
 

Howie_Mc_NYC

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There are so many people living paycheck to paycheck - look at the unemployment claims in NYC . The average American doesn’t have 400 dollars in the bank . We cannot assume everyone has the financial resolve you mention herein .

I am assuming Sammy if the mongers here had it to spend, they wouldn’t be ragging about it . As old Willy Shakespeare said “ thou doth protest too much”
Agree with you here. I see it like this: if you’re complaining about a 20$ price increase, then you got bigger issues. maybe you should be jerking off instead.
I digress but I saw one if the DONY girls this week and she was complaining/mentioning how guys would say they have such a good time to her but immediately go home and write an angry review— so the same people complaining about the 20$ increase think this is a democracy and they have to get the best “bang for their buck”.
 

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Also think about this - was your rent the same in 2019 as was in 2016-17? No it went up every year .

In 2020 rents nose dived supply and demand driven by Covid .

At first rates with AMP went up because less of them were working ROI in play and ROR -
Some raised rates and others were just happy to have business - we were scare to go. They were scare to keep their doors open- but , they the AMP MMS saw that they could get more because less girls were working

Once they saw they could get more - it raised the bar . Within a year every AMP will get 350
I should start telling pros they should charge more for old people and maybe even obese hobbyists. Since they have to power through and close their eyes sometimes . They think it already so it aint a big deal :unsure:

I have so many things i could talk to. To a pro, i dont need to kiss up and tell her "you could charge more!" The fact you see nothing wrong with this says all I need to know about you. It is what it is.
While this is true I think it's safe to say that mongers with the financial means to go to places like AL and blow $300 on a regular basis are not living paycheck to paycheck. The point of my post is that one needs to consider the price increase in the context of your whole financial picture. Even if the 401k is just 25k the $7500 extra you have justifies the $20. Whatever your worth is composed of it's a lot more now than a few yrs ago .
It's the principle. Let's be clear I didn't create this thread but I understand it. These pros were $260 in most spots like 18 mos or so. Maybe even less time than that. They are increasing it $40 in that span.

It is possible they are increasing also cause they see indys increasing prices.
 

Alvin Lee

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I should start telling pros they should charge more for old people and maybe even obese hobbyists. Since they have to power through and close their eyes sometimes . They think it already so it aint a big deal :unsure:

I have so many things i could talk to. To a pro, i dont need to kiss up and tell her "you could charge more!" The fact you see nothing wrong with this says all I need to know about you. It is what it is.


It's the principle. Let's be clear I didn't create this thread but I understand it. These pros were $260 in most spots like 18 mos or so. Maybe even less time than that. They are increasing it $40 in that span.

It is possible they are increasing also cause they see indys increasing prices.
I see no problem telling a person that they are worth more it’s like giving someone a raise — remember this was directed back in 2017 when 200 was their rate - it was too cheap .

Not sure what your trying to say with the esoteric quip of you know all you need to know - uncalled for and antagonistic- this is a forum - opinions vary

As for them” putting up” with old obese men look at it like a smart blockchain simple contract - it’s an automated payment for a desired service devoid of personal opinion . They check their opinions at the door when they decide to do this for a living . As for what we pay -if you, me and all mongers were capable of getting women like this in the course of our everyday lives - we wouldn’t need to be paying for it would we ? Therefore if they raise the rate beyond your capacity to afford them - stay hone or work harder- put please stop complaining.

If you really feel that way tell it to the MMS and listen to the phone go dead .
 
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