This is exactly why dating in the West is soo difficult, which I myself (a regular guy) have trouble with. Although I have never dated outside of the USA, i hear its a bit different if not completely different. There is nothing wrong with women who have casual sex, even women in other countries do but they make an effort to atleast be honest in their approach and work hard to keep a guy she really likes, if it doesn't work out then she moves on (same approach as men). But in the West its more about a dating "game" to see who has more value or who can out game the other. When you involve games in any aspect, deception is bound to occur. Look at sports or video games. The best athletes are crafty or experienced in faking oppenents out and in video games often deception is used to gain advantage.
Agreed. The problem is directly proportional to whatever degree the two genders are socialized to believe and accept different moral values and rules for each gender for the same behavior.
The whole morality of men having sex and gets free pass or women who sleeps around are hoes is just propaganda...
Agreed.
...but it does raise a question of if a women sleeps around with 2-3 guys a year is she really doing this to guys she is genuinely interested in or using them as a game to boost her value.
Negative. My whole point is that women never need to lie to or deceive men to get sex if they just want sex; so it's not a moral issue for unattached women to be promiscuous. Think about it: If a hot girl said to you that she doesn't want any kind of relationship right now, but she's horny and she's sexually attracted to you; so if you'd like to take her home just to fuck, you (and most guys) would be all in. Conversely, with only very rare exceptions, if a guy said anything remotely like that to any woman, there would be no hookup. Women who just want casual sex never have to pretend they might want "more" to get it from guys. Men -- at least those who aren't George Clooney or Brad Pitt -- know that pretty girls will only fuck them if guys have a more sincere interest in them beyond just sex. Since most regular guys get very few opportunities to go out with the girls in whom we might have a sincere romantic interest, guys have learned to communicate in various ways that they have "more" of an interest than sex in any girl they hope to fuck. I'm sorry, but that's extremely immoral, precisely because you're using someone for sex under deliberately false pretenses without which guys know they'd almost never get laid. So, casual sex almost never raises even the slightest moral issue for women and it almost always involves immoral lies and deception for men. That's why it's so backwards that guys get a moral pass while women get harshly judged for being promiscuous. Obviously, none of those moral issues come up in transactional sex; but the reason we're discussing this here is because so many guys apply that backwards moral standard in the way they talk about and presume to judge providers.
As a guy i would not have sex with a fat ugly girl if i wasn't attracted to her.
Me neither; but I already made the point that there are people of both genders who care more about living in luxury and not having to work (or whatever) than physical attraction. To your other point about using someone for status: (1) That only applies to these types of tradeoffs and not more generally to every sexual hookup; and (2) Typically, the ugly person offering the lifestyle benefits to the more attractive person isn't being deceived or used, because he/she knows what each person is bringing to the table and isn't under any misconception that the other person would be with them, otherwise.
Another aspect to consider is sex is a biological need for human but for men its more physical and women its more emotional.
To a certain extent, that's true; but: (1) The source of the sexual impulse has nothing to do with the morality of lying to or tricking someone into giving it up; and (2) Even much of that gender difference is learned through socialization about sexual mores, which, as you pointed out, explains why men and women in other countries are less out of synch. I strongly suspect that women in those countries who have the freedom to enjoy casual sex without anything more exhibit behavioral pattenrs about sex that are much less different from the way men enjoy casual sex without anything "more" being involved.
As mongers we probably have a high notch count but we are generally just as stable as a non monger if not more stable due to having a clear mind. But a women who has been through many partners is not the same mentally stable.
I'm sorry, but this is pure conjecture and unsupported conclusion and doesn't even present any argument about why that might be the case. I'd argue that guys who pay women to do things that they'd never want to do with their own wives or significant others might have major issues about sex. In my opinion, there's nothing healthy or "stable" about that, at all; and most of that goes right back to presuming to judge women harshly for participating in exactly what YOU want to do sexually. If it's depraved or about being "damaged" for any women to do it with you, then it's equally depraved or abour being "damaged" if you want those things in the first place. In my opinion, mongers who are psychologically heathy and undamaged about sex seek out nothing more than fulfilling their natural urge for novelty in sexual partners and/or more sex than they're getting at home or through regular dating. I'm sorry, but some of the things I've read in reviews (and/or heard directly from providers) about what some guys need to do with or
to providers sounds like the opposite of psychological "health" or "stability" to me.