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Colonellingus

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If you live in the area and go against them, either win or lose you now have crosshairs on your back.

They will make your life miserable 24/7.

Believe me, I know.
 

Srhsrh

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There was a case up here where a kid on a student visa, had a bunch of cash from his local family for starting his college year. Got pulled over on some chicken shit profiling cop on a traffic stop, and had his money taken away by the cop. Eventually got the money back, but started the semester homeless, book less, starving, because some cop didn’t think some kid looking like him (he wasn’t from Norway), should be carrying a few thousand in cash.
 

njlefty

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If you live in the area and go against them, either win or lose you now have crosshairs on your back.

They will make your life miserable 24/7.

Believe me, I know.
When I almost got arrested during a raid on an AMP, the police took glee in threatening to call my wife and tell her I was an AMP. And when I finally got my wallet back and was escorted out of the premises, my wallet was empty of cash. The cop sending me on my way said it was the luckiest day of my life.
 

njlefty

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Heads up to Texas Mongers: 79 mongers pinched this week. As the DA said, if you want to buy sex, beware. Welcome to the USA.:cool:

"If you’re going to attempt to buy sex in Montgomery County, you’re going to be caught and you’re going to be prosecuted to the fullest extent," said Montgomery County DA Tyler Dunman. "You will walk away with a conviction if you attempt to buy sex.”
 

mikemendez

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Heads up to Texas Mongers: 79 mongers pinched this week. As the DA said, if you want to buy sex, beware. Welcome to the USA.:cool:

"If you’re going to attempt to buy sex in Montgomery County, you’re going to be caught and you’re going to be prosecuted to the fullest extent," said Montgomery County DA Tyler Dunman. "You will walk away with a conviction if you attempt to buy sex.”
Montgomery co. located north of Houston, north Houston and points near these areas as well as precinct 4 is and has been notorious for prostitution arrest, appears this latest sting was conducted via LE online ads as well as ads being placed online where most girls have a pimp, doesn't appear to include Amps, least not this sting. I always made it a point not to indulge in these areas, FS spas don't fair to well or for long. The general Houston area has experienced a broad closure of FS spas, the " nuisance law" is the current tool being used to shut most of the FS spas down, threats of law suits being filed against property owners and property management companies by the DA's office is in full swing, as stated in other threads on this site "all time low" as far as talent goes, many providers have gone independent, it's a bit safer as long as reviews or details aren't posted on sites they can remain in business.
 

njlefty

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VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Disturbing details are emerging from recently unsealed court documents as to what Virginia Beach detectives found inside four massage parlors.

In June, police wearing black masks executed search warrants as part of a human trafficking investigation at four locations all called "Massage," owned by Tiehu Cai under a corporation called Oriental Favor.

They escorted four employees out of the businesses and charged them with various offenses including maintaining or frequenting a bawdy place, using a vehicle to promote prostitution and pandering, pimping or receiving money from a prostitute.

Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the Virginia Beach Police Department (VBPD) executed search warrants at businesses at the following locations:
  • 1143 Independence Boulevard
  • 1581 General Booth Boulevard #103
  • 4676 Princess Anne Road #130
  • 5277 Princess Anne Road #323
https://wtkr.com/2019/10/09/new-cou...nside-four-vb-massage-parlors-raided-in-june/
 

njlefty

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TULSA, Okla. (KTUL) — A warning from Tulsa County District Attorney Steve Kunzweiler. “They know who they are and they should know I know who they are. We're going after them,” he said. They are going after massage parlors around Green Country that are part of an illegal prostitution ring.

“There is this dark culture out there. The illicit massage industry that is trying to represent it's apparently okay to victimize women if you just give it a label and say it's just a massage,” Kunzweiler said.

https://ktul.com/news/local/operati...massage-parlors-eliciting-sex-in-tulsa-county
 

TGBeldin

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OK has historically been as bad as rural FL when it comes to repressive views about others having consensual sex. Long history of publicity stunts, bible thumping self anointed "preachers" condemning gays as demonic--until they are caught with a gay prostitute themselves.

There are some good folks in OK, but enough of the others to keep electing some real distorted people.
 

njlefty

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OK has historically been as bad as rural FL when it comes to repressive views about others having consensual sex. Long history of publicity stunts, bible thumping self anointed "preachers" condemning gays as demonic--until they are caught with a gay prostitute themselves.

There are some good folks in OK, but enough of the others to keep electing some real distorted people.
Oklahoma was the first and only state in the nation that wanted to allow police during traffic stops to use special devices in the patrol vehicles in which to access people's bank accounts or credit cards for traffic violations.

Someone later pointed out that draining people's bank accounts without actually having been found guilty of anything might violate the Constitution.

Duh.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Why do you think the constitution should apply in Oklahoma?
The constitution doesn't apply anywhere anymore. Not so long as people have to defer to governmental authorities when it comes to how they administer their own private property. As long as the government can dictate to us whom we have to hire, rent to, sell our homes to, etc.. The constitution was not meant as a "pick and choose" document, as far as I know.
 

njlefty

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Why do you think the constitution should apply in Oklahoma?
The constitution doesn't apply anywhere anymore. Not so long as people have to defer to governmental authorities when it comes to how they administer their own private property. As long as the government can dictate to us whom we have to hire, rent to, sell our homes to, etc.. The constitution was not meant as a "pick and choose" document, as far as I know.
For a time, this is how it worked. I believe they stopped doing it, but not 100 percent certain. Notice the last line. You can get your money back if you can prove to a cop it really is your money.

The Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money on prepaid cards.

It's called an ERAD, or Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machine, and OHP began using 16 of them last month.

Here's how it works. If a trooper suspects a person may have money tied to some type of crime, the highway patrol can scan and seize money from prepaid cards. OHP stresses troopers do not do this during all traffic stops, only situations where they believe there is probable cause.

"We're gonna look for different factors in the way that you're acting,” Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lt. John Vincent said. “We're gonna look for if there's a difference in your story. If there's someway that we can prove that you're falsifying information to us about your business."

Troopers insist this isn't just about seizing cash.

"I know that a lot of people are just going to focus on the seizing money. That's a very small thing that' s happening now. The largest part that we have found ... the biggest benefit has been the identity theft," Vincent said.

"If you can prove can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized.
 

DrHappy88

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For a time, this is how it worked. I believe they stopped doing it, but not 100 percent certain. Notice the last line. You can get your money back if you can prove to a cop it really is your money.

"If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized.

That last line is the scariest one of all. "...prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money...?" I'm pretty sure the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments say the government can't take my stuff just because they feel like it and that I don't have to prove a damn thing to them. The state, not by the side of the road, but in a court of law, has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of my peers that I don't have a "legitimate reason" to have it. James Madison must be doing about 1000 rpm in his grave.
 

njlefty

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That last line is the scariest one of all. "...prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money...?" I'm pretty sure the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments say the government can't take my stuff just because they feel like it and that I don't have to prove a damn thing to them. The state, not by the side of the road, but in a court of law, has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury of my peers that I don't have a "legitimate reason" to have it. James Madison must be doing about 1000 rpm in his grave.
Since 2014, annually, the police in the United States seize more money and property from citizens than criminals steal from them.

The Institute for Justice points this out every year, but it's not changing for the better.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Since 2014, annually, the police in the United States seize more money and property from citizens than criminals steal from them.

The Institute for Justice points this out every year, but it's not changing for the better.
There is a war against cash.
They want to track everything.
Every aspect of our lives.
 

njlefty

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There is a war against cash.
They want to track everything.
Every aspect of our lives.
It is a vicious cycle with law enforcement. In most states, a percentage of assets seized go back to the purchase of new toys, salaries, and other goodies. In some states, the percentage that goes back is 100 percent. So, you get a lot of this:



 

njlefty

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It's the Fourth Reich out there.
At least there is some rational discussion and agreement here about problems with policing and prosecuting in this country. In other boards I was on, you'd quickly get labeled a "cop hater" by many.

They were also always preaching about the need for others to obey the laws, but didn't see the need to check the mirror themselves.
 
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