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Review: Evergreen: Mickey

jim_hatez

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Title: Review: Evergreen: Mickey
Date: Aug 8, 2023
Phone: 215.822.8808
City: Line Lexington
State: PA
Location: Next to Zoto's Diner

House Fee and Tip (if applicable) $70 + $150
Age Estimate: early 30s
Nationality: Korean
Physical Description: Dyed hair (like brownish/blondish), cute, nat Bs... small Bs. Overall nice body

Recommendation: Yes
 

Anonajohn

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The MMS change seems to be changing the direction of this place. It is up to 2 strikes against it on my scorecard at this point. Too bad, really. It was a great solid place to go for a long time under previous MMS.
 

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It really was, and I really hate when they haggle like that, and the fact that her attitude changed so much cause of it. Generally I stick to the ones I’ve known for a while and maybe that’s the only thing EG will be good for now. For the new mms, I said it in a different review I think, something about her just doesn’t make me comfortable. She doesn’t come off mean, I dunno just someone I wouldn’t trust haha
 

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It really was, and I really hate when they haggle like that, and the fact that her attitude changed so much cause of it. Generally I stick to the ones I’ve known for a while and maybe that’s the only thing EG will be good for now. For the new mms, I said it in a different review I think, something about her just doesn’t make me comfortable. She doesn’t come off mean, I dunno just someone I wouldn’t trust haha
Agree with you Rice she is nice but seems a little... fake. I was just telling someone in DM about this, it's not the $20 that is the real problem for me with this visit. The real problem is, passive aggressive and negative because they didn't like the donation which is what I've been giving here for awhile. How about just sack up and say hey, currently the price here is $20 more. Ok then. I'm a big boy and I get inflation, supply/demand, etc. I shouldn't have to deal with a cold shoulder for part of my session and then try to dig out of the hole.

The good news was, things went from a 3 to an 8 right away. But I would have preferred to avoid that BS.

I would say this... if you are comfortable with the "new" cost she is worth seeing. One of the better looking @ EG in awhile IMO, outside of the ATFS there, none of which are currently in rotation. And once the switch was flipped she was much more pleasant and fun.

But I wouldn't try to get away for less because you're gonna end up having issues most likely, as always YMMV.
 

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It seems that this is the way of the world. 70/150 seems to be the going rate everywhere. It seems to me that whether 200 or 220 the service could be a little better if they want to create a return customer list. If the supply of customers is a little low out there and that is the reason for the up cost, then they need to just be more competitive than the other spas or individual girls.
 

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It seems that this is the way of the world. 70/150 seems to be the going rate everywhere. It seems to me that whether 200 or 220 the service could be a little better if they want to create a return customer list. If the supply of customers is a little low out there and that is the reason for the up cost, then they need to just be more competitive than the other spas or individual girls.
Good comment. You should be pleased now. This had nothing to do with inflation or competition.
 

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Title: Review: Evergreen: Mickey
Date: Aug 8, 2023
Phone: 215.822.8808
City: Line Lexington
State: PA
Location: Next to Zoto's Diner

House Fee and Tip (if applicable) $70 + $150
Age Estimate: early 30s
Nationality: Korean
Physical Description: Dyed hair (like brownish/blondish), cute, nat Bs... small Bs. Overall nice body

Recommendation: Yes
Your last sentence is excactly what they want to hear. It isn't inflation or competition. Whatever the market will bear !!!
 

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Be careful about quoting private details.

Prices tend to rise in an inflationary environment because money is worth less. Econ 101.
I did not quote you. I reworded, added, and added an opinion. What inflationary period. This is not a market constrained retail economy, it is a supply versus demand service market influenced by gouging and availability.
 

jim_hatez

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I did not quote you. I reworded, added, and added an opinion. What inflationary period. This is not a market constrained retail economy, it is a supply versus demand service market influenced by gouging and availability.
On my browser Post #9 which you put up quotes the entire review including private details. You don't see that?

Inflationary period as in this country has undergone severe inflation the past few years. Costs of everything is up, and quantitative easing has reduced the value of our money. When business costs go up, and cost of living goes up, prices are raised.

The market isn't just influenced by gouging. Like any businesses, AMPS want to make profits. If their cost goes up, should they take less profit, or raise prices defensively?

It sounds like you've never owned a business.
 

Wayne1250

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For the same service (GFE+) that I use to get in 2015 use to be 60/140 (200 all in) and now in 2023 it's 70/150 (220 all in). We are talking about an extra 20 dollar difference that's all, not bad in my estimation. Don't talk to me about the old 100 dollar tip because that was true for a lesser service level. So now the house gets an extra 10 and the provider gets an extra 20.
 

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For the same service (GFE+) that I use to get in 2015 use to be 60/140 (200 all in) and now in 2023 it's 70/150 (220 all in). We are talking about an extra 20 dollar difference that's all, not bad in my estimation. Don't talk to me about the old 100 dollar tip because that was true for a lesser service level. So now the house gets an extra 10 and the provider gets an extra 20.
Well MR WAYNE, once again you are throwing around numbers and comparing your "standard service", which consists of almost exclusively city shops, and you comment on hobbyists experiences in shops in the suburbs that you have never been to or providers that you have not even seen or been with for years. I know what the standard was in the suburbs in 2015 because I actually was going to them very frequently for several years by then !!! And you have consistently been a proponent of not only these inflated rates to not only insure "standard" service, whatever that means, but have advocated for hobbyists to drop extra gratuities for premium services, whatever that means !!! And you, oh esteemed grand poobah of the AMP world, have had a major impact on the hobby. WELL DONE.
 

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Response to post #12. AMP's make huge profits. I was a marketing representative for several years and I know the profit margins of several industries. I have knowledge of AMP operations and passed up investment opportunities to get involved because of the obvious inherent operating insecurities and associations. So I do have business acumen, intimately in this business, and it doesn't take acummen to be profitable in this industry. This is not the retail sector. So, if I violated the site comment regulations, that's my bad and I stand corrected and worthy of discipline. But I will not retract what I meant and I have watched this hobby be ruined by self centered selfish market makers under the guise of inflation and normal market conditions. This is not a normal market by any stretch of the imagination. And the unwritten rule is always YMMV, which makes the words "standard, premium, normal and gratuitiy" as subjective and individual as are the expectations for everry hobbyist that participates.
 

jim_hatez

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Response to post #12. AMP's make huge profits. I was a marketing representative for several years and I know the profit margins of several industries. I have knowledge of AMP operations and passed up investment opportunities to get involved because of the obvious inherent operating insecurities and associations. So I do have business acumen, intimately in this business, and it doesn't take acummen to be profitable in this industry. This is not the retail sector. So, if I violated the site comment regulations, that's my bad and I stand corrected and worthy of discipline. But I will not retract what I meant and I have watched this hobby be ruined by self centered selfish market makers under the guise of inflation and normal market conditions. This is not a normal market by any stretch of the imagination. And the unwritten rule is always YMMV, which makes the words "standard, premium, normal and gratuitiy" as subjective and individual as are the expectations for everry hobbyist that participates.
Did I call for discipline? No. I just pointed it out to help you avoid it in the future, so relax a little bit.

Inflation affects everything. You think it has no affect on AMPs, but pricing over the past 10 years has gone up more than once, for AMPS, and agencies. If you have an "in" and can get a special discount, congrats. Sometimes that happens for frequent fliers or for various other reasons. But clearly most places are asking for more than $2 for an all in experience these days. If you know of places that are still accepting that or less, by all means, share away!
 

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Did I call for discipline? No. I just pointed it out to help you avoid it in the future, so relax a little bit.

Inflation affects everything. You think it has no affect on AMPs, but pricing over the past 10 years has gone up more than once, for AMPS, and agencies. If you have an "in" and can get a special discount, congrats. Sometimes that happens for frequent fliers or for various other reasons. But clearly most places are asking for more than $2 for an all in experience these days. If you know of places that are still accepting that or less, by all means, share away!
In paragraphs 4,5,7,10,11,and 16 you dwell on pricing and use words like fee dispute, shake down, arm twisting and unhappy. My comment was on your content. We agree on the problem but not to the degree and primary cause of the current market. I never said that you indicted me or that I had any ins for discount pricing. Maybe you should relax a bit. End of discussion.
 

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In paragraphs 4,5,7,10,11,and 16 you dwell on pricing and use words like fee dispute, shake down, arm twisting and unhappy. My comment was on your content. We agree on the problem but not to the degree and primary cause of the current market. I never said that you indicted me or that I had any ins for discount pricing. Maybe you should relax a bit. End of discussion.
Your reading comprehension needs help. I said clearly it was how it was handled that was the issue, the $20 was not the problem. It was ruining the first 1/6 of my session with a negative attitude because she wanted/expected a little more. That did not need to occur and it almost ruined my time because the communication around it was missing. I share this to help others avoid the same fate.

That's the point of reviews. Not to waste time bickering over why prices rise. If you want to do that, feel free to post a thread in the area titled "discussions".
 
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