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Review: EZ Health -Annie

Massage Vet

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You know, Blue, I have to say. You weren't Jaded at all. You didnt know the routine here and went with the program. Not going to set you back in anyway.
You had a good enough time that when and if you go back you will be able to dictate the session more to your liking with confidence.


FFT:

I must say though. I have only been to EZ once so far and it was two separate sessions back to back. Covered 4 hands doesn't ever turn out the way its intended.

I gave Cindy 120 tip and gave CiCi 140 tip because she had to work harder to get me to the finish line being she was pop #2. But, other than that reason I would not have given her a 140 tip. For what? BBBJ and CFS?! Whoopy, why? Because they are a tad bit younger than other ladies at other locations? I mean I'm not sold.

Cindy got a 120 tip and she was lucky she got that after she said "no" to most of my other requests. I am by far nowhere near cheap and always willing to pay for what i get. What everyone is getting here is not worth a 140 tip. Its just not. Its a 100 tip service with a curtesy 20 extra for the tad bit younger talent.

True FS shops dont upsell for BBBJ's when the hell did that become a thing? I can go 50 feet into the same development and get BB across the board for 140 with a smile.

I wasnt a big fan of Cindy, Not a fan of CiCi who other than being small and tight (good stuff yeah) isnt going to win any beauty contests. Candy was big and goofy looking and I would only choose her if I could put a sock in her mouth and bang her in the rear.

I never met Annie but she sounds like a dumpier taller CiCi.

140? For what? Man they are really pushing the envelope here for average sessions. You guys need to ban together and push that back down to 120 (20 being a curtesy tip).

BS 4 hands that sound choppy as hell and the girls all with their monthly friends acting all stupid. Not to mention the walk of shame this place has.

IDK, if and when i go back. Its 100 tip and thats it. If they wont expand the menu than we shouldnt be expanding our pockets.

Just food for thought.

MV
 

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You know, Blue, I have to say. You weren't Jaded at all. You didnt know the routine here and went with the program. going to set you back in anyway.
You had a good enough time that when and if you go back you will be able to dictate the session more to your liking with confidence.


FFT:

I must say though. I have only been to EZ once so far and it was two separate sessions back to back. Covered 4 hands doesn't ever turn out the way its intended.

I gave Cindy 120 tip and gave CiCi 140 tip because she had to work harder to get me to the finish line being she was pop #2. But, other than that reason I would not have given her a 140 tip. For what? BBBJ and CFS?! Whoopy, why? Because they are a tad bit younger than other ladies at other locations? I mean I'm not sold.

Cindy got a 120 tip and she was lucky she got that after she said "no" to most of my other requests. I am by far nowhere near cheap and always willing to pay for what i get. What everyone is getting here is not worth a 140 tip. Its just not. Its a 100 tip service with a curtesy 20 extra for the tad bit younger talent.

True FS shops dont upsell for BBBJ's when the hell did that become a thing? I can go 50 feet into the same development and get BB across the board for 140 with a smile.

I wasnt a big fan of Cindy, Not a fan of CiCi who other than being small and tight (good stuff yeah) isnt going to win any beauty contests. Candy was big and goofy looking and I would only choose her if I could put a sock in her mouth and bang her in the rear.

I never met Annie but she sounds like a dumpier taller CiCi.

140? For what? Man they are really pushing the envelope here for average sessions. You guys need to ban together and push that back down to 120 (20 being a curtesy tip).

BS 4 hands that sound choppy as hell and the girls all with their monthly friends acting all stupid. Not to mention the walk of shame this place has.

IDK, if and when i go back. Its 100 tip and thats it. If they wont expand the menu than we shouldnt be expanding our pockets.

Just food for thought.

MV
MV, you know better than us how this business works. My 2 cents: both CICI and Annie, I understand are relatively new in US. They still learning about the customer Likings and standard FS. That shows in their tip negotiations and hesitation to some of the requests which are normal. However Sara/ Sarah is willing to take feedback and guide girls accordingly. Now it all depends on how she handles the competition in the long term.
PS: location may also be concern for few of us.
 

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Although the idea of fresh faced young spinner poon is quite alluring ESPescially when most of the other spots are staffed by more seasoned gals I agree with MVET on the 100 base price I’ve been saying it for quite awhile.100 an hour is pretty dang good money lots of us don’t make 100 per hour It can be warranted though if girl makes you feel special and does great job I also gotta admit the walk of shame thing. I live local to the EW area and gotta watch what I do. I actually use the vet service next door and next one up the road for my critters. And never know I might wanna run for mayor someday lol
 

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Although the idea of fresh faced young spinner poon is quite alluring ESPescially when most of the other spots are staffed by more seasoned gals I agree with MVET on the 100 base price I’ve been saying it for quite awhile.100 an hour is pretty dang good money lots of us don’t make 100 per hour It can be warranted though if girl makes you feel special and does great job I also gotta admit the walk of shame thing. I live local to the EW area and gotta watch what I do. I actually use the vet service next door and next one up the road for my critters. And never know I might wanna run for mayor someday lol
@Dbomb . I wish you and @Massage Vet are correct regarding base price. But can we really control the base price? Is there any unwritten understanding among various establishments for the same? Do we mongers see it as a job card or we value the personal experience we get. As more mongers are joining this hobby their base expectations are also increasing based on the reviews posted….Just my thoughts…
 

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Although the idea of fresh faced young spinner poon is quite alluring ESPescially when most of the other spots are staffed by more seasoned gals I agree with MVET on the 100 base price I’ve been saying it for quite awhile.100 an hour is pretty dang good money lots of us don’t make 100 per hour It can be warranted though if girl makes you feel special and does great job I also gotta admit the walk of shame thing. I live local to the EW area and gotta watch what I do. I actually use the vet service next door and next one up the road for my critters. And never know I might wanna run for mayor someday lol
Everything you said, Brother @Dbomb (y)(y)(y)(y)(y)
 

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@Dbomb . I wish you and @Massage Vet are correct regarding base price. But can we really control the base price? Is there any unwritten understanding among various establishments for the same? Do we mongers see it as a job card or we value the personal experience we get. As more mongers are joining this hobby their base expectations are also increasing based on the reviews posted….Just my thoughts…
When I went in the room with Cindy, we established what would happen. When she told me 140. I said oh okay, that must include door number 2 and 3 also. When she said no and no. I said okay no worries but then the tip is 100 not 140. She said no its 140. I said no its 100. She then said okay 100 but no BBBJ. I said okay, send in CiCi instead. She said okay 120 and BBBJ. I said 100 plus 20 if we FK and BBBJ. She agreed and we continued. That's what I call an extra 20 as a curtesy tip.

So, you see my point? It doesnt have anything to do with what they want to charge or what the mamasan tries to enforce. That only applies to what they try to get away with (pushing the envelope). If you are the kind of guy that is shy and timid and dont know how to respectfully be forceful with what is right well of coarse they will get the 140. I guarantee 1 out of every 3 mongers will just hand over whatever price they ask for and except whatever service they get for it.

That's just not me. :sneaky:

My rule of thumb is simple. Give me what I want and you will get what you want, no problem. Don't give me what i want and we will have to meet somewhere in the middle or neither of us will get anything, no problem. :cool:

MV
 

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Back in 2005 I use to go to "55" in Princeton-Hightstown, 70/80 was what I paid for everything (FK/BBJ) though they always asked for 100. I'm comfortable with 120/140 now, but don't ask for more $$ unless its something really special :sneaky: or I decide to tip you extra for a memorable time.
Asking for 20 more was just annoying, but I just chalked it up to I will not be seeing her again, so lets just get on with it.
 

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When I went in the room with Cindy, we established what would happen. When she told me 140. I said oh okay, that must include door number 2 and 3 also. When she said no and no. I said okay no worries but then the tip is 100 not 140. She said no its 140. I said no its 100. She then said okay 100 but no BBBJ. I said okay, send in CiCi instead. She said okay 120 and BBBJ. I said 100 plus 20 if we FK and BBBJ. She agreed and we continued. That's what I call an extra 20 as a curtesy tip.

So, you see my point? It doesnt have anything to do with what they want to charge or what the mamasan tries to enforce. That only applies to what they try to get away with (pushing the envelope). If you are the kind of guy that is shy and timid and dont know how to respectfully be forceful with what is right well of coarse they will get the 140. I guarantee 1 out of every 3 mongers will just hand over whatever price they ask for and except whatever service they get for it.

That's just not me. :sneaky:

My rule of thumb is simple. Give me what I want and you will get what you want, no problem. Don't give me what i want and we will have to meet somewhere in the middle or neither of us will get anything, no problem. :cool:

MV
Thanks for your valuable insight…
 

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Back in 2005 I use to go to "55" in Princeton-Hightstown, 70/80 was what I paid for everything (FK/BBJ) though they always asked for 100. I'm comfortable with 120/140 now, but don't ask for more $$ unless its something really special :sneaky: or I decide to tip you extra for a memorable time.
Asking for 20 more was just annoying, but I just chalked it up to I will not be seeing her again, so lets just get on with it.
Funny observation: the provider rates for fs have gone up from 100 to 140/150 over the past 15 years. However the house charges have remained static at 60 as far as I can remember! There used to be a few 50 house fee cases but for the most part that number was and is still 60 for the hour. In some sense they have not kept pace with inflation!? Or is it just market economics? I think if all the amps were to start charging 70 there would not be a significant drop in their gross number of footfalls....thoughts?
 

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Back in 2005 I use to go to "55" in Princeton-Hightstown, 70/80 was what I paid for everything (FK/BBJ) though they always asked for 100. I'm comfortable with 120/140 now, but don't ask for more $$ unless its something really special :sneaky: or I decide to tip you extra for a memorable time.
Asking for 20 more was just annoying, but I just chalked it up to I will not be seeing her again, so lets just get on with it.
I may have gotten BBBJ, for those prices, more than a few times at 55 in those early days. Cant say I remember FS ever being less than a bill. My first AMP visit back in early 1992 was a Korean spot on rt 13 in Bristol. She asked for 100 but I only had 80 left after paying the house fee. She cut me a break but made me promise to give her an extra 20 on a return visit.

In AC the Korean shops charge 70/140 now. For basic CBJ CFS. I pay it because I know there are a pool of certain ladies that will removed the C for a small upsell.

But out in CNJ - the Chinese shops shouldnt be those prices unless........If all elevated options are a hard NO. Then, they get a good talking to.

99% of the shops in CNJ (with older talent) are open. Places like EZ and Dream and 202/206 etc that want to charge over the moon prices for standard CFS are just taking advantage because the ladies are a few years younger.
 

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I may have gotten BBBJ, for those prices, more than a few times at 55 in those early days. Cant say I remember FS ever being less than a bill. My first AMP visit back in early 1992 was a Korean spot on rt 13 in Bristol. She asked for 100 but I only had 80 left after paying the house fee. She cut me a break but made me promise to give her an extra 20 on a return visit.

In AC the Korean shops charge 70/140 now. For basic CBJ CFS. I pay it because I know there are a pool of certain ladies that will removed the C for a small upsell.

But out in CNJ - the Chinese shops shouldnt be those prices unless........If all elevated options are a hard NO. Then, they get a good talking to.

99% of the shops in CNJ (with older talent) are open. Places like EZ and Dream and 202/206 etc that want to charge over the moon prices for standard CFS are just taking advantage because the ladies are a few years younger.
I think the market for fs in most amps has moved to a 60 plus 140 base donation with more for extras. Compared to most of my other indulgences over the past 15 to 20 years this has been the least inflationary especially given how much more mainstream mongering has become. When
I compare the basic amp fs offer to the fast houses or the stg type indys, I personally find amps to deliver better value for my money.
 

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I think the market for fs in most amps has moved to a 60 plus 140 base donation with more for extras. Compared to most of my other indulgences over the past 15 to 20 years this has been the least inflationary especially given how much more mainstream mongering has become. When
I compare the basic amp fs offer to the fast houses or the stg type indys, I personally find amps to deliver better value for my money.
I agree, AMPs still provide the most bang for the buck. Most LMP and RMP are 75 to 100 for the house and 200 or more for the donation and this for a relatively smaller and restricted menu.... And the STG and bedpages indies its very hit or miss because they have no pressure to create repeat customers...From time-to-time LMP, RMP and STG will have their unicorns and superstars but for a regular hobbyist like myself AMPs are the safest bet!
 

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I agree, AMPs still provide the most bang for the buck. Most LMP and RMP are 75 to 100 for the house and 200 or more for the donation and this for a relatively smaller and restricted menu.... And the STG and bedpages indies its very hit or miss because they have no pressure to create repeat customers...From time-to-time LMP, RMP and STG will have their unicorns and superstars but for a regular hobbyist like myself AMPs are the safest bet!
Agree that AMPs will always be the safest bet. But, if we let them continue to hike up the prices but not hike up the service level, at what point does it get out of hand?

Hi, I'm here for a 10min back tickle, 5min BBBJ, and 5min CFS.

Sure Honey, that will be 100 house and 200 tip.

But starting next week it will be 110 House and 250 tip. 300 to include lfk.

Wow, Only $410 total for 20mins of standard service? I'll take it.

:rolleyes:
 

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Agree that AMPs will always be the safest bet. But, if we let them continue to hike up the prices but not hike up the service level, at what point does it get out of hand?

Hi, I'm here for a 10min back tickle, 5min BBBJ, and 5min CFS.

Sure Honey, that will be 100 house and 200 tip.

But starting next week it will be 110 House and 250 tip. 300 to include lfk.

Wow, Only $410 total for 20mins of standard service? I'll take it.

:rolleyes:
TBH I’ll walk out if std service exceeds $140. Not sure how much it will be after 1 year or so.
 

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TBH I’ll walk out if std service exceeds $140. Not sure how much it will be after 1 year or so.
Is it not mostly market driven? I believe in the Milton Friedman theory of free market economics! Pricing is driven by what the market i.e. us mongers will bear....that's kinda reflected in the 140 price point

infact I am pleasantly surprised at how the house money in amps has stayed static even though the average rents or leases for space have nearly doubled in the past 15 plus years....
 

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Is it not mostly market driven? I believe in the Milton Friedman theory of free market economics! Pricing is driven by what the market i.e. us mongers will bear....that's kinda reflected in the 140 price point

infact I am pleasantly surprised at how the house money in amps has stayed static even though the average rents or leases for space have nearly doubled in the past 15 plus years....
You are right…it always baffles me why HF has not increased…I believe tip is shared between the provider and MMS/owner in some kind of ratio so that operating expenses can be met. As std service fee has increased from $100 to $140 and more mongers are going for FS and want to experience some add-ons like double pop, no C, four hands; their income in terms of tips has increased significantly. So I think they don’t feel necessity to increase HF which is just like a standard token money.

These are my thoughts…I may
Be wrong …as @Massage Vet said, some of establishments have increased it to $70
 

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You are right…it always baffles me why HF has not increased…I believe tip is shared between the provider and MMS/owner in some kind of ratio so that operating expenses can be met. As std service fee has increased from $100 to $140 and more mongers are going for FS and want to experience some add-ons like double pop, no C, four hands; their income in terms of tips has increased significantly. So I think they don’t feel necessity to increase HF which is just like a standard token money.

These are my thoughts…I may
Be wrong …as @Massage Vet said, some of establishments have increased it to $70
++ as number of
Mongers and frequency of visits per mongers has increased, such increase in volume may be enough to absorb the overheads.
 
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