i don't do extras so i might not qualify. but if a provider doesn't ad for extras or hint at extras in ads, and if the client shouldn't expect that they can negotiate for extras at any session they want, then to me that's not what these boards (and overeager dudes) mean by extras. i'd call those "exceptions," which almost every provider likely develops in some way or another w. some clients. that also prolly means that the providers don't want them posting about that. anyway, agreed that Naomi rocks!