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Review: New day wellness -phoenix

Co69bol

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OP is way off. I go here almost weekly. They treat me like a king. I do not over pay and I am never rushed. Don't bad mouth a place because you had one bad experience. Maybe they just don't like you. Cici runs a great AMP.
Because you go there weekly.

It's just Susan's place with the same bs and stale stable, just without Susan. TW & 202/206 were amazing 10 yrs ago, but went way downhill at the end.
 

The MILF Hunter

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Pheonix is still good, not as good as she once was. But I do agree this place and most in NJ are stale. Need some new talent.
I have said it before. Huge shortage of new talent in NJ. Any girl with some skills and an open menu can go to NYC and make twice as much money and with less risk considering that NY is a much friendlier than NJ toward the industry.

If you look at the ads in NYC though, it has become a cesspool with the level of service girls are offering now. I firmly believe that most NJ girls are much more safety and health conscious. NYC is all about fast women and fast money.
 

dudethorano

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I have said it before. Huge shortage of new talent in NJ. Any girl with some skills and an open menu can go to NYC and make twice as much money and with less risk considering that NY is a much friendlier than NJ toward the industry.

If you look at the ads in NYC though, it has become a cesspool with the level of service girls are offering now. I firmly believe that most NJ girls are much more safety and health conscious. NYC is all about fast women and fast money.
I think the market is already coming down ..free money policy is out of the door..inflation is crazy high..we are going to hit a hard wall which means people loosing jobs and less disposable income and then post unemployment period we are going to see bad situation..im sure the amps will survive..but demand will dwindle and rates will go down for sure..already i sense low demand in many pockets helping drive rates lower..but one things is right..bad quality overall ..so everytime i wanna meet awesome folks i cross over to canada
 

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Pheonix is still good, not as good as she once was. But I do agree this place and most in NJ are stale. Need some new talent.
I saw her like 4.5 mos ago. Crazy how it seems like half that time ago. Anyway she was dope. Like top 5 type of talent at any place and i have amazing sessions. Looks wise looks about 45 the 2+ years i hadn't seen her . Her age really showed more. However her body is still sexy and better than vast majority of pros her age and younger. She said she would stay for a while this time and she has.

I have said it before. Huge shortage of new talent in NJ. Any girl with some skills and an open menu can go to NYC and make twice as much money and with less risk considering that NY is a much friendlier than NJ toward the industry.

If you look at the ads in NYC though, it has become a cesspool with the level of service girls are offering now. I firmly believe that most NJ girls are much more safety and health conscious. NYC is all about fast women and fast money.
This is not true. Fact is Phoenix isnt getting $400 hr at a NYC spot. She would get under $300 or just around it.

NYC has gotten younger talent at the popular spots. Which is one good thing that has happened the past 2+ years at the Asian agencies.

I think the market is already coming down ..free money policy is out of the door..inflation is crazy high..we are going to hit a hard wall which means people loosing jobs and less disposable income and then post unemployment period we are going to see bad situation..im sure the amps will survive..but demand will dwindle and rates will go down for sure..already i sense low demand in many pockets helping drive rates lower..but one things is right..bad quality overall ..so everytime i wanna meet awesome folks i cross over to canada
Highly highly doubt it. Everyone always think the market will cause the rates to go down. They never do, at best they freeze the rates for a while, which is needed.
 

The MILF Hunter

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I saw her like 4.5 mos ago. Crazy how it seems like half that time ago. Anyway she was dope. Like top 5 type of talent at any place and i have amazing sessions. Looks wise looks about 45 the 2+ years i hadn't seen her . Her age really showed more. However her body is still sexy and better than vast majority of pros her age and younger. She said she would stay for a while this time and she has.


This is not true. Fact is Phoenix isnt getting $400 hr at a NYC spot. She would get under $300 or just around it.

NYC has gotten younger talent at the popular spots. Which is one good thing that has happened the past 2+ years at the Asian agencies.


Highly highly doubt it. Everyone always think the market will cause the rates to go down. They never do, at best they freeze the rates for a while, which is needed.
I never said Phoenix could get that kind of money in NYC. Based on these reviews, she's 45 to 55 years old. My point was there is no new talent in NJ these days because all the hot girls with any talent and an open menu can make much more money in NY.
NYC spas now start at 320 and some even 360. Add the extra services that seem to be the trend now and these girls are at $500 an hour. Why would any girl want to come to work in NJ. Most these girls are from Flushing, Queens or Astoria anyway. NYC is an easier commute. Some girls come to NJ only because they fear running into family or friends if they work local to where they live.
 

Uniquelyme

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I never said Phoenix could get that kind of money in NYC. Based on these reviews, she's 45 to 55 years old. My point was there is no new talent in NJ these days because all the hot girls with any talent and an open menu can make much more money in NY.
NYC spas now start at 320 and some even 360. Add the extra services that seem to be the trend now and these girls are at $500 an hour. Why would any girl want to come to work in NJ. Most these girls are from Flushing, Queens or Astoria anyway. NYC is an easier commute. Some girls come to NJ only because they fear running into family or friends if they work local to where they live.
They can charge for the extra services in Nj also. Hagnj was the same rate as NYC shops for their age range $320.

The $360 girls are all under 30 or very much look it. The next tier is $320 for full gfe . DA has girls for $320 full gfe.
 

The MILF Hunter

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They can charge for the extra services in Nj also. Hagnj was the same rate as NYC shops for their age range $320.

The $360 girls are all under 30 or very much look it. The next tier is $320 for full gfe . DA has girls for $320 full gfe.
HAGNJ apparentky failed or got run out of town The average age of girls working in NJ is probably 40 to 45. They are working in NJ because they are too old to work in NYC or they are not open to the signature service that is required to work in the more popular NYC spas. Read the NJ reviews. Most guys don't like tipping more than $.2 to $.4. The average all in hour in NJ won't even buy you a half hour massage in those popular NYC spas.
 

Uniquelyme

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HAGNJ apparentky failed or got run out of town The average age of girls working in NJ is probably 40 to 45. They are working in NJ because they are too old to work in NYC or they are not open to the signature service that is required to work in the more popular NYC spas. Read the NJ reviews. Most guys don't like tipping more than $.2 to $.4. The average all in hour in NJ won't even buy you a half hour massage in those popular NYC spas.
Hagnj was getting reviewed left and right the point is the price point was the same. Ofc it is cheaper here because the pros are older that is my point.
 

The MILF Hunter

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Hagnj was getting reviewed left and right the point is the price point was the same. Ofc it is cheaper here because the pros are older that is my point.
My point is that New NJ talent is lacking because the girls are going to NYC. I know Michelle/Tasha. Yoyo/Miya and a handful if others that worked at HAGNJ. That shop was a novelty or special treat for NJ mongers. Very few went there regularly week after week. Staffing that location was also a challenge. Then they tried bringing the Japanese girls in but they had to charge a premium, because most those girls were acquired through a Japanese talent agency. Customers didn't like paying the extra fee. Toward the end, they decided not to charge the premium on the Japnese girls and they were making less in house fees. Eventually it became too much of a struggle to staff with talent of the caliber expected for that price point. They had an interested party looking to buy them out and make it a traditional Day Spa and they sold it. There was talk of opening another location, but that idea got scrapped. They are now back in NYC.

As far as age goes, Michelle/Tasha is much older than the norm in NYC, but she is in exceptional shape and provides one he'll of a massage session. Age is just a number if a girl has good genetics and takes care of herself.
 

Uniquelyme

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My point is that New NJ talent is lacking because the girls are going to NYC. I know Michelle/Tasha. Yoyo/Miya and a handful if others that worked at HAGNJ. That shop was a novelty or special treat for NJ mongers. Very few went there regularly week after week. Staffing that location was also a challenge. Then they tried bringing the Japanese girls in but they had to charge a premium, because most those girls were acquired through a Japanese talent agency. Customers didn't like paying the extra fee. Toward the end, they decided not to charge the premium on the Japnese girls and they were making less in house fees. Eventually it became too much of a struggle to staff with talent of the caliber expected for that price point. They had an interested party looking to buy them out and make it a traditional Day Spa and they sold it. There was talk of opening another location, but that idea got scrapped. They are now back in NYC.

As far as age goes, Michelle/Tasha is much older than the norm in NYC, but she is in exceptional shape and provides one he'll of a massage session. Age is just a number if a girl has good genetics and takes care of herself.
That last sentence only so much. Lot of people that are paying $320+ are starting to get more accustomed to Women under 30 or at most early 30's as opposed to early 40's.

That's my last post on this. It's still a Phoenix review.
 

dudethorano

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There is always good ones to find on a reasonable budget way below 320

But that said business always goes this way city get the yunger more $ ones and suburbs the older lesser $ ones

Even in other parts of the world its the same way for eg in hong kong ,mongkok has lower quality n $ and hk has the other side

However demand supply and local rules allow some markets like canada to be good for quality at a good $

Nj is still good that its favaorable to amps vrs seattle or ohio where its very risky
 
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