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Review: Scorpio Group - Lady (maybe Leidy)
- Thread starter CaptainBoner
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The MILF should have just grabbed you as you walked in the door. Flirting with me at that point is futile. That place would have been a write off with the swiftness! I walk in and nobody gets up! Then I get sub par service. Now after all that Now MS Milf wants to flirt and tell me come back. HELL FUCKIN' NO! You can't act funny and still get my money. They knew what time it was when you walked through the door and everybody's on some bullshit!!!!
Unfortunately, the brothers get the short end of the stick many times from both Latin and Asian providers. It really sucks as our money is as green as anyone else’s.
I had an instance where I selected a girl at a spa and she straight up refused. She left the line shaking her head. Fucked up. Her loss as I would have tipped heavily and probably given her an O before mine but hey...
I had an instance where I selected a girl at a spa and she straight up refused. She left the line shaking her head. Fucked up. Her loss as I would have tipped heavily and probably given her an O before mine but hey...
I respect @Baiter 's opinion on this, but @RickeyRomance get's it.
I'm a realist. As a black guy I am treated pretty poorly in this industry, I have been turned away a ton of times. Sometimes when I go to a place I am literally yelled at by staff for just showing up. It's not fair, it's not right, but it is reality. It sucks but I can't waste a lot of time crying about it, I just have to know the game I'm playing. If I want good service I have to know the process to get it.
Sometimes when I show up at a place (like what happened at Scorpio), there is a moment of shock and I think all the ladies are saying to them selves "oh my god, it's a dangerous black man." Someone (usually the one who is the least popular with clients) is encouraged to do. And as she works she does a half ass job to see how aggressive I am, she won't do any teasing or playfulness, just the bare-bone minimum to get me out if I'm trouble.
But by the end of the massage, any gal who isn't a straight up racist, wants my number or wants to give me theirs, because I'm a perfect client. I don't push boundaries and I don't do a lot of negotiations.
I have been to AMPs/LMPs where I have had to suffer through the poorly skilled rookie to later gain access to the MVP. Is it always worth it? NO! A lot of places just suck. But this place has positive reviews, and I got a hint that now they are okay with me so I might see that positive.
I'm a realist. As a black guy I am treated pretty poorly in this industry, I have been turned away a ton of times. Sometimes when I go to a place I am literally yelled at by staff for just showing up. It's not fair, it's not right, but it is reality. It sucks but I can't waste a lot of time crying about it, I just have to know the game I'm playing. If I want good service I have to know the process to get it.
Sometimes when I show up at a place (like what happened at Scorpio), there is a moment of shock and I think all the ladies are saying to them selves "oh my god, it's a dangerous black man." Someone (usually the one who is the least popular with clients) is encouraged to do. And as she works she does a half ass job to see how aggressive I am, she won't do any teasing or playfulness, just the bare-bone minimum to get me out if I'm trouble.
But by the end of the massage, any gal who isn't a straight up racist, wants my number or wants to give me theirs, because I'm a perfect client. I don't push boundaries and I don't do a lot of negotiations.
I have been to AMPs/LMPs where I have had to suffer through the poorly skilled rookie to later gain access to the MVP. Is it always worth it? NO! A lot of places just suck. But this place has positive reviews, and I got a hint that now they are okay with me so I might see that positive.
Have you tried going to Latina houses in the city like international goddesses or red velvet? They are much more open to black men.
Is this place above a sports bar? I'm sorry you had this experience. I'm use to the same things as a black Male. I have grown more comfortable leaving when this happens or straight up asking for who I want when there is a group of girls.
If you like curvy women....there is a beautiful curvy Moroccan girl who works in Astoria and has been reviewed on here. She has no problem with black men.
As an aside....sometimes it's not because the girls are racist. A girl in a spa told me once that Sometimes they expect black men to have bigger penises and don't want to always deal with that especially after a long day of seeing clients.
Is this place above a sports bar? I'm sorry you had this experience. I'm use to the same things as a black Male. I have grown more comfortable leaving when this happens or straight up asking for who I want when there is a group of girls.
If you like curvy women....there is a beautiful curvy Moroccan girl who works in Astoria and has been reviewed on here. She has no problem with black men.
As an aside....sometimes it's not because the girls are racist. A girl in a spa told me once that Sometimes they expect black men to have bigger penises and don't want to always deal with that especially after a long day of seeing clients.
It's not like a fast house it's more of a massage first then whatever happens in the future happens, if it may happens. Being that they are not out there like the Asians asking "massage", "massage". I think the point was for you to try and come back and see what can happen next time if it may happen next time. Also there is a good logical reason behind why the flirting may happen at the end and not the beginning which I will explain next post.
I apologize in advance.
From the Lmp's I've been too and providers I have met, a lot of them told me their worse experiences was with a black guy. They are use to giving massages and providing for their own people and having a positive safe experience. Where as 1 in every 4-5 black guys are very disruptive, causes a scene, act a fool, etc. I had different Latin women tell me all these stories about how black guys didn't tip them anything, how they try to steal their cellphone, try to forcefully touch them after the woman said "no". I've been told that they have been spit on, slapped punched, kicked, shoved and always made them feel uncomfortable. Now any race could do that even their own kind but from I've been told conversing with these Latin women they told me it's the dark ones are the worse.
Not to say you @CaptainBoner or @RickeyRomance or @hamilton2015 are the disruptive ones you just might make up more than 50% of the good brothers out there who should get more and probably treated fairly.
Life isn't fair we all know that. This is a business and it's not all fair either but we do have to blame our fellow brothers out there who makes it worse for ya'll (I would say us but I'm half black with the right skin). Sorry guys.
From the Lmp's I've been too and providers I have met, a lot of them told me their worse experiences was with a black guy. They are use to giving massages and providing for their own people and having a positive safe experience. Where as 1 in every 4-5 black guys are very disruptive, causes a scene, act a fool, etc. I had different Latin women tell me all these stories about how black guys didn't tip them anything, how they try to steal their cellphone, try to forcefully touch them after the woman said "no". I've been told that they have been spit on, slapped punched, kicked, shoved and always made them feel uncomfortable. Now any race could do that even their own kind but from I've been told conversing with these Latin women they told me it's the dark ones are the worse.
Not to say you @CaptainBoner or @RickeyRomance or @hamilton2015 are the disruptive ones you just might make up more than 50% of the good brothers out there who should get more and probably treated fairly.
Life isn't fair we all know that. This is a business and it's not all fair either but we do have to blame our fellow brothers out there who makes it worse for ya'll (I would say us but I'm half black with the right skin). Sorry guys.
Yes to Latina goddesses and I agree they are much open to black men
This place is not above the sports bar on 82nd. Yes your right it's not because the girls are racist it's the experience they have had with them in the past. I also liked that method of you leaving when the menu isn't good or not satisfied with the woman you want. @hamilton2015 I forgot to write this in your review of mary but I will write it here
I had an experience like that on 80th with the Indian/Bengali. That damn mamasan would always run me out of there. I would call when I'm in front of the place and ask if it's ok to come up and once they said yes I go up and they look at me and say no they are busy. So my dumbass tried again and they kept giving me Ruby and I've known Ruby from Oshis and seen her at another independent spot when Oshis got busted. If anyone knows her she is by far the worse one. She has no skill with her massage, she not attractive, her hands feel like sandpaper. There was a time everyone else refused to see me until I started walking out and then I said I want somebody new. So they gave me a better looking indian woman and more importantly she has currently and in the past gave me the best massage ever, which is what I come for. Extras are just bonus and are never expected from me.
This place is not above the sports bar on 82nd. Yes your right it's not because the girls are racist it's the experience they have had with them in the past. I also liked that method of you leaving when the menu isn't good or not satisfied with the woman you want. @hamilton2015 I forgot to write this in your review of mary but I will write it here
I had an experience like that on 80th with the Indian/Bengali. That damn mamasan would always run me out of there. I would call when I'm in front of the place and ask if it's ok to come up and once they said yes I go up and they look at me and say no they are busy. So my dumbass tried again and they kept giving me Ruby and I've known Ruby from Oshis and seen her at another independent spot when Oshis got busted. If anyone knows her she is by far the worse one. She has no skill with her massage, she not attractive, her hands feel like sandpaper. There was a time everyone else refused to see me until I started walking out and then I said I want somebody new. So they gave me a better looking indian woman and more importantly she has currently and in the past gave me the best massage ever, which is what I come for. Extras are just bonus and are never expected from me.
Always like reading your reviews and comments @Bryanpunk. They always try to push the girls who don't get many clients because they are bad/lazy at the 80th st Indian/Bengali spa. Ruby is really bad and lazy. I usually only see mary because Ive know her since Oshis and she gives me a really good massage. Do you remember the better looking indian woman's name?
@CaptainBoner - Sorry you had a bad experience. You always have the option to educate or retaliate and I'm glad you chose the former. I hope the MILF rewards you for your valor on a future visit.
I try to approach each culture from their perspective. I've learned enough words in Mandarin and Spanish to navigate my preferred environments and help the girls feel comfortable. I defy stereotypes and I never let anyone define my world but me because they will invariably define a world that is too small for my liking. I leverage my uniqueness to become a VIP at the places I visit.
That doesn't stop an idiot that looks like me from doing something stupid, but I use it as an opportunity to further contrast myself from the herd, and that herd includes many flesh tones.
I find that spa girls that hesitate based on race rarely do this from outright racism. It is usually a viewpoint formed in ignorance from lack of exposure or from an accumulation of negative experiences because the girl operates at a level that attracts too many idiots.
I intentionally avoid places that scrape the bottom of the barrel and attracts idiots, because I will end up being classified as a rarity, not a welcomed VIP.
Stay encouraged and thanks for including these details in your review.
I try to approach each culture from their perspective. I've learned enough words in Mandarin and Spanish to navigate my preferred environments and help the girls feel comfortable. I defy stereotypes and I never let anyone define my world but me because they will invariably define a world that is too small for my liking. I leverage my uniqueness to become a VIP at the places I visit.
That doesn't stop an idiot that looks like me from doing something stupid, but I use it as an opportunity to further contrast myself from the herd, and that herd includes many flesh tones.
I find that spa girls that hesitate based on race rarely do this from outright racism. It is usually a viewpoint formed in ignorance from lack of exposure or from an accumulation of negative experiences because the girl operates at a level that attracts too many idiots.
I intentionally avoid places that scrape the bottom of the barrel and attracts idiots, because I will end up being classified as a rarity, not a welcomed VIP.
Stay encouraged and thanks for including these details in your review.
I find it hard to believe these derogatory things about black males. In america it has been a steady campaign to defame the black man until present. We know that if there is a black man present at an incident ( he can be divorced from this incident) yet, he is the culprit and risks getting arrested. There may be some rapist and thieves in the pile but that's a relatively small percentage. You have more "borracho" drunk SAs disrupting a business and drunk whites. There are always 2 sides to a story.... what do they do that set these black men off????
How you perceive a culture is how you will subconciencly respect them. The SA s are told " aye mija , stay away from those morons... they're bad people" Honestly we are the only group that allows other races to move into our neighborhoods without robbing,chasing them or burning down their homes or vandalizing their property. How is that but yet were "violent,disruptive,thieves,etc" Their excuses are lame and just reflect all the biases they have been submerged in. If were not totally submissive and willing to take everyone's bullshit with a smile then we are considered "Bad" Their excuses are diplomatic Bullshit!
How you perceive a culture is how you will subconciencly respect them. The SA s are told " aye mija , stay away from those morons... they're bad people" Honestly we are the only group that allows other races to move into our neighborhoods without robbing,chasing them or burning down their homes or vandalizing their property. How is that but yet were "violent,disruptive,thieves,etc" Their excuses are lame and just reflect all the biases they have been submerged in. If were not totally submissive and willing to take everyone's bullshit with a smile then we are considered "Bad" Their excuses are diplomatic Bullshit!
It takes a few generations of concerted effort to correct a structural inequity like racism. I'm specifically referring to the power structures that keep inequities in place and the collective effort to rise above it. The issue with us valuing so much individualism in America is that there is very little collectivism as there was at the end of the Civil Rights campaigns of the 60s-70s or even the modern collectivism in some countries over seas. No collective movement equals no collective progress.
Beyond the power structures, there is still the social consciousness required for this topic to no longer be "a thing". That doesn't happen until the old thoughts die of old age with the people that believed it their entire life and the younger people are confronted with the reality of stereotype defying people.
I think we are still a ways off, but we each have to do our part irrespective of race. That may include politely taking our dollars to places that welcome it.
It may also mean that dollars should not be given to the willfully ignorant. I'm okay with an ignorant person being open to learning. However, I do not feel obliged to give them extended lessons on civility.
Beyond the power structures, there is still the social consciousness required for this topic to no longer be "a thing". That doesn't happen until the old thoughts die of old age with the people that believed it their entire life and the younger people are confronted with the reality of stereotype defying people.
I think we are still a ways off, but we each have to do our part irrespective of race. That may include politely taking our dollars to places that welcome it.
It may also mean that dollars should not be given to the willfully ignorant. I'm okay with an ignorant person being open to learning. However, I do not feel obliged to give them extended lessons on civility.
I totally agree with not spending money with people who dont respect me. Martin Luther King almost broke a bus line with his boycott and we did best after the civil war selling our trade to our community as well as outsiders making many millionaires in such a time. Just as the so called Jewish have formed a nation inside of a nation we should have done the same instead of relying on the concept of integration and the false promises of liberty and justice for all.
Thanks man I appreciate it. Yeah I noticed that how they try to push the bad ones and Ruby really don't know what she is doing. Her hands use to feel like sand paper and it use to scratch and leave marks on my skin. I will say that I did get a good CBJ from her one time. The better looking one name is Lilly. She won't let me take off my undies but man her massage is golden. Probably the only one that puts the hot stone into good use.