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totally insane session (not in a good way)

winternights

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I dont want to name place, or the girl...


session started totally normal,
I had to wait about 10min in entrance area, sitting on the couch, then 5-10min while she took care of the $ so we started 15-20min later than agreed time.

after about 15-20min of massage or whatever, she made it clear she didnt want to do what I was suggesting (we were doing it, and then she said she wanted to stop)... which was not remotely anything extreme or even mid level expectations (also based on reviews on this board, its a common activity with her which she enjoys)... and I expressed no concern about it, ie 'no problem'... then we moved on to what she seemed more comfortable with,,, which was FS, which Id prefer a bit of warming up to that, but whatever. (in all honestly, I wasnt planning on FS and didnt want to do it)

issues slowly started to increase... so, no matter where I put my hands, or what position we were in, or how I moved, she seems to be in pain or frustration (also in chinese basically telling me how to do it... )... she spoke zero english so, communication wasnt easy, we were using a translation app on my phone.

Im intentionally very observant and thoughtful when spending time with these girls so, when I was sure she was clearly not enjoying... but (she was) insisting on continuing... I stopped... so by this point I wasn't sure what was going on. (she insisted we do FS, I stopped after it didnt seem to be working even tho she was trying to continue)

She quickly moves onto giving CBJ which , by this point, I didnt know how I felt about the session... I dont feel comfortable w someone showing discomfort and I was confused with what was going on... and I had already trying to text: if you dont feel good or whatever we can stop. she was very pushy to be clear.... Same thing also, anywhere I put my hands she's seeming uncomfortbale so I literally am just holding my hands sort of just in the air: this has never happened to me and felt very weird... and not sexy.

She took care of me with the CBJ (not enjoyable on my end) and we were 35min into the session,,, she then started nervously pointing to the clock and saying we need to finish up quickly... ; because we had started late... she was pretending that I had 50min already... so I showed and explained we barely had half hour and I wanted to relax a bit. I paid for 1 hour... and I tried to say: look, if you're having issues, just relax and I don't care at all, I pointed to the chair ... but I didn't want to be rushed out after 35min. TBH, I think I felt overwhelmed at this point and just wanted a minute or two to collect myself.

if that was all that happened, it would have just been a dud of a session, probably one of the worst ones I've had, but nothing more... but act two starts:

she leaves, then comes back in, then starts crying, then puts her arms around me and starts telling me she loves me etc etc, (in chinese)... she wont let me move or anything so I just have to sit there,,, the rest of the 25min is basically this (crying, trying to text each other on the app). Plus, we go 'over time'.. and now the mama-san is knocking on the door, and asking whats going on... ALL of this 25min is on her part, I would have definitely left if I was able. Before I leave the girl grabs my phone, puts her number in it, calls herself, waits to make sure the call goes through, and (sign language), tells me to be quite. (I had made zero suggestion to do this... and based on our interaction wouldnt have)

finally she lets me go, and mama-san hurries me out... everything is a big rush and everyone there (mama-san, and another girl in the hallway), all look either very busy or confused... idk.

a day later, I still feel very uncomfortable about what happen. I don't think the girl was intentionally messing with me, maybe she had a unexpected meltdown and she didnt want to get in trouble so she was trying to control the situation as best she could.

As a paying customer, I feel completely ripped off, it was a 100% stressful, not fun, weird, forced time (sexually it was horrible)... with an attempt to get me out after 35min... A day later, I feel mentally exhausted still.

Im thoughtful, friendly, empathetic, easy going, good looking, good hygiene etc (as in Im ruling out that she found me disgusting or I am unaware how bad I am sexually etc), there is a possibility I treated her better than usual, and she was just having a stressful week? and so it triggered her? Im just at a loss ... this board is the last place Id go to for advice tbh... but worth a try.

(She has several good reviews on this board also...)
 

winternights

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Did she call or text after? Sounds like
She was stalling and putting on an act to avoid doing work. Suffice it to say gals in this business have a lot of issues. I would cut your losses and just move on from this shop. Perhaps leave a review so others know to avoid this gal.
she was doing more 'work' than I was asking for, and ended up having me in the room longer than 1 hour...
She was the one who suggested fs multiple times before I agreed... not like im totally against it, I just try to make sure the vibe is 100% good, specifically w fs, or its not worth it to me... I made a split minute decision which was the wrong one obviously

no she didnt text or call me.

I won't go back, wasn't sure about leaving a review. I probably won't.
 

Jeff2828

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Damn sorry that happened to you I would probably have gotten out of there much sooner and complained to mms. At the end of the day you never know what’s going on in the girls personal life sounds like she was going through something and should have taken off work instead of having a breakdown with a customer. Would probably be best to put the review up as a heads up to others.
 

winternights

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Damn sorry that happened to you I would probably have gotten out of there much sooner and complained to mms. At the end of the day you never know what’s going on in the girls personal life sounds like she was going through something and should have taken off work instead of having a breakdown with a customer. Would probably be best to put the review up as a heads up to others.
ok, Ill consider posting a review. I don't want to needlessly affect her or her spa, for 1 bad day tho.
and yes, it went from kinda bad, to weird/worse quickly, and it caught me off guard.
I was trying to leave, honestly, but she wouldn't let me.

And yes thanks for your advice, next time I will leave quickly if I sense something is getting off track.. thats the best I can do for learning from this bad experience.

Something like this has never happened to me before, and the classic female mixed message thing, obviously threw me for a loop (anything i did bothered her, telling me she loved me, adding her number to my phone of her own volition)

It really turned me off on this hobby for now... part of the reason many of us engage this hobby is to avoid all the complications with females....lol.
 

Jeff2828

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ok, Ill consider posting a review. I don't want to needlessly affect her or her spa, for 1 bad day tho.
and yes, it went from kinda bad, to weird/worse quickly, and it caught me off guard.
I was trying to leave, honestly, but she wouldn't let me.

And yes thanks for your advice, next time I will leave quickly if I sense something is getting off track.. thats the best I can do for learning from this bad experience.

Something like this has never happened to me before, and the classic female mixed message thing, obviously threw me for a loop (anything i did bothered her, telling me she loved me, adding her number to my phone of her own volition)

It really turned me off on this hobby for now... part of the reason many of us engage this hobby is to avoid all the complications with females....lol.
I get not wanting to negatively affect her but just remember at the end of the day everyone on this board is spending their money for hopefully a drama free good time. So while it sucks for her that a bad review might turn away some clients you might end up saving someone from having the same bad experience as you.
 

winternights

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ok, give me a couple days, and ill add a balanced review im ok with. Thanks

(and if they want to full story... lol, I just realized, they will find it will my other comments if they choose to dig through them... )
 

ChinatownVertigo

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A girl tells you they don't have much time & the guy argues, resists and has a bad experience. What did you think was going to happen o_O

You don't want to know whats going on their end. Just listen to them and don't repeat if they don't treat you well. There's no salvaging that situation.
 

winternights

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A girl tells you they don't have much time & the guy argues, resists and has a bad experience. What did you think was going to happen o_O

You don't want to know whats going on their end. Just listen to them and don't repeat if they don't treat you well. There's no salvaging that situation.
I posted this so I could get others perspectives. Thanks

Im confused what you mean, I paid for an hour, and she was trying to push me out after 35min... pretending it was an hour...
but then she ends up stalling in the room with me, past an hour,,, crying... and Im sorry but, I can get a bit confused emotionally if a woman is crying.

I dont disagree I didnt handle it correctly, nothing horrible happened, but it was by far the worst experience I have had at a spa, and im trying to understand what happened... now that its been a few days, I think she wasnt having a good day and was just trying to get me out... (without getting in trouble will mamasan).

on my end, I didnt like being manipulated, and was frustrated I wasnt getting anything I wanted for the $ i paid. I go out of my way to be respectful and... didnt feel I got that in return.
 

winternights

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I would have posted a negative review about her and not allow her to have access to my phone.

She had full control of the situation and you took it too personally.
thanks for your reply.
I didnt take it personally... I honestly dont care...
but the situation was not relaxing / fun / etc... so , yeah, I left feeling stressed and pissed off.

by she had full control of the situation you mean: I felt I had more control than I did or ? at the end yes, that is correct, i was acting delusional. lol. it was minor, but yes.

In hindsight, I should have left early, complained to mamasan, and wrote a honest review. I can still write the review.

None of this is a big deal, just trying to understand what happened,,, and tbh, I deal with asian woman a lot in my life, so it not like im ignorant to some of the games they play... clearly I was the simp in this engagement... :) im fine to say that, live and learn.
 

이 회장님

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thanks for your reply.
I didnt take it personally... I honestly dont care...
but the situation was not relaxing / fun / etc... so , yeah, I left feeling stressed and pissed off.

by she had full control of the situation you mean: I felt I had more control than I did or ? at the end yes, that is correct, i was acting delusional. lol. it was minor, but yes.

In hindsight, I should have left early, complained to mamasan, and wrote a honest review. I can still write the review.

None of this is a big deal, just trying to understand what happened,,, and tbh, I deal with asian woman a lot in my life, so it not like im ignorant to some of the games they play... clearly I was the simp in this engagement... :) im fine to say that, live and learn.
We all have had negative experiences. I’ve had plenty so I understand your frustration. One time I had a negative experience and a parking ticket. lol

She disrespected you, your time and your money. Karma will get her.

You’re right—live and learn. (y)
 

ChinatownVertigo

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I posted this so I could get others perspectives. Thanks

Im confused what you mean, I paid for an hour, and she was trying to push me out after 35min... pretending it was an hour...
but then she ends up stalling in the room with me, past an hour,,, crying... and Im sorry but, I can get a bit confused emotionally if a woman is crying.

I dont disagree I didnt handle it correctly, nothing horrible happened, but it was by far the worst experience I have had at a spa, and im trying to understand what happened... now that its been a few days, I think she wasnt having a good day and was just trying to get me out... (without getting in trouble will mamasan).

on my end, I didnt like being manipulated, and was frustrated I wasnt getting anything I wanted for the $ i paid. I go out of my way to be respectful and... didnt feel I got that in return.
Not every session is going to be a hit. Don't lean into the duds.

When a girl is trying to push you out, why not just listen to her? Wrap up the session and leave, or go complain to the mms if you really feel shorted.
 

Spaceman1917

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We assume a lot in this hobby. And the fact that we get sanity as often as we do is a miracle. My read is that she wanted you to take her away from there, and wasn’t fully “onboard” with the circumstances surrounding her.
 

Beacon

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If you’re a regular at this spot maybe you can talk to the MMS and see if everything is okay now? There may be more levels to this situation and you may not want to get more involved than you already have been at this point. Posting a review would help us but might further exacerbate whatever was happening there.
 

Johnny Blaze

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Marry her.

The only thing that even makes any sort of sense is that she has to go back to china but wants to get a green card and stay. Now remember, they pay you....
 

winternights

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Yeah, I see how it looks this way, and I sort of felt confused w the crying; I looked over the translated text on my phone last night which, she had said some sweet things (our texting during the sesion, because she doesnt speak english),..

a more realistic guess is: She had just received a proper pounding 10min prior, and just didn't have it in her for another cock at that exact moment, but she did want the money, and she didn't want mama-san to see she wasn't available, ... she's an industrious Chinese woman, not some slouch so she did what she needed to do with me, which was ... get through it basically lol, and move on to the next customer.

the crying was probably real, just from being over worked and didn't like to feel she wasn't doing a good job... She's Chinese and proud, so the last thing she will do is let on she's fucking up,... so she just pretend everything is fine (crying because she loves me so much lol), treat me like shit and get me out, hoping I leave confused enough not to complain the session was horrible.
 
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