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Weight loss meds

Dutch

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I figured I’d ask this group of fellow degenerates what you all thought of or experiences with any of the newer weight loss meds on the market. Wagovy, Ozempic etc. I know they are not necessarily for weight loss but they are getting a lot of traction for weight. As I get older the weight gain getting to be more of a challenge to keep off.
P.S. I use degenerate as a term of endearment.
 

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Careful with those medications. They are for lowering a diabetics A1C. Weight loss is a “side effect”, not the purpose for them. Once you stop taking it, any weight you lost comes back. The quality of weight loss is not the same as the standard method of calorie deficit/burn. Take in less calories than you burn. The body composition will not be optimal. In addition, EXPENSIVE.
 

Johnnylovesmassages

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Careful with those medications. They are for lowering a diabetics A1C. Weight loss is a “side effect”, not the purpose for them. Once you stop taking it, any weight you lost comes back. The quality of weight loss is not the same as the standard method of calorie deficit/burn. Take in less calories than you burn. The body composition will not be optimal. In addition, EXPENSIVE.
many insurance plans cover this 90% or better. Also, I know people who have used it for weight loss and it allowed them to break the cycle of bad eating habits since it is an appetite suppressor. Bad eating is an addiction and based on habits, and this allows you to break those habits.
 

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Be very careful taking these drugs. Semaglutides can cause retinopathy. Trust me, based on experience, you don’t want that, especially if you’re fond of looking at what you’re about to dine on. Oh, and if you are not careful, you may induce low blood sugar. I’m sure all of my diabetic friends on this forum will agree that hypoglycemia is the worst fucking feeling in the world.
 

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Another unpleasant side effect is pancreatitis. And last, but not least, a couple of my friends, who have taken it, report that until your body is used to it, about five days, there is intermittent, explosive diarrhea. So be prepared to stay home the first week.
 

Balmain

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I figured I’d ask this group of fellow degenerates what you all thought of or experiences with any of the newer weight loss meds on the market. Wagovy, Ozempic etc. I know they are not necessarily for weight loss but they are getting a lot of traction for weight. As I get older the weight gain getting to be more of a challenge to keep off.
P.S. I use degenerate as a term of endearment.
As with many meds, there is the potential for adverse side effects and/or complications (someone mentioned pancreatitis); however, similar to an earlier point, GLP-1s, if used strategically, can be a starting point for helping you break maladaptive habits. If your mindset is one where you view it simply as a wonder drug that will enable weight loss and no other effort on your part is required, then as others have suggested, once you discontinue the med, all of the weight will pile back on.

Consider combining the med with structured and evidenced-based wellness programming to increase the likelihood of achieving sustainable health outcome.
 

Balmain

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As with many meds, there is the potential for adverse side effects and/or complications (someone mentioned pancreatitis); however, similar to an earlier point, GLP-1s, if used strategically, can be a starting point for helping you break maladaptive habits. If your mindset is one where you view it simply as a wonder drug that will enable weight loss and no other effort on your part is required, then as others have suggested, once you discontinue the med, all of the weight will pile back on.

Consider combining the med with structured and evidenced-based wellness programming to increase the likelihood of achieving sustainable health outcome.
As for the point about hypoglycemia, I believe the ones who are at the greatest risk for this side effect are those with Type 1 Diabetes (and having to perform insulin matching).
 

JuanPablo

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My wife's friend is on Zepbound and has lost a considerable amount of weight. So much so that when I look at her now I get a woody. She said she is constipated and has to take Miralax every other day to stay regular. Semaglutides slows down your digestion. She realizes that she has to modify her diet. She will gradually lower her dosage and may stick with the lowest dose for some time.
 

Balmain

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As for the point about hypoglycemia, I believe the ones who are at the greatest risk for this side effect are those with Type 1 Diabetes (and having to perform insulin matching).
re: the point on explosive diarrhea, your MD should gradually titrate your dose to help mitigate some of the earlier side effects.
 

Voodoo66

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I know several who now take it. Same personality type. Need to find a supplement that enables you to lose weight without calorie restriction or exercise. Behavior modification is needed for those types. Same for lap band patients. Many relapse and gain all the weight back. There are no quick fixes in the end.
 

Fluffycookie

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My wife's friend is on Zepbound and has lost a considerable amount of weight. So much so that when I look at her now I get a woody. She said she is constipated and has to take Miralax every other day to stay regular. Semaglutides slows down your digestion. She realizes that she has to modify her diet. She will gradually lower her dosage and may stick with the lowest dose for some time.
Tell your wife to get her to try No Cow bars. High in Fiber and does the trick for me and 2 others I know taking Zepbound. I eat one every other day. Was constipated and now it is clockwork at go time lol.
 

Honda

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I was on I meal replacement diet for about 2 years, I took ozempic also. I lost over 140 pounds in that time frame. But as soon ad i stopped taken it, and off the meal replacement. All the weight came back.
 

kgirler

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As for the point about hypoglycemia, I believe the ones who are at the greatest risk for this side effect are those with Type 1 Diabetes (and having to perform insulin matching).
Semaglutide increases insulin release and inhibits glucagon release. Therefore, both types of diabetes patients, and non-diabetics, are very susceptible to hypoglycemia with overuse of semaglutide. The patient has to be vigilant toward managing diet and exercise, whether taking basal insulin, fast insulin, or semaglutide. There is no quick fix for diabetes management just as there is no quick fix for weight management. Behavior modification with respect to diet and exercise are crucial in either case. Semaglutide may help establish new behavior, but should not be counted on for long term use.

My point about using semaglutide off-label for weight loss is that hypoglycemia is a very real side effect even for non-diabetic patients. The warning is printed right on the label. Semaglutide has been demonstrated to work for weight loss, but unless the patient modifies caloric intake and exercises regularly, the weight will return rapidly as soon as the medication is discontinued.

Let me qualify my remarks by stating that I am not a doctor, just an old diabetic who has managed to keep his dick working by changing destructive habits.
 

acheron72

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Based on what I read, a lot of why Wegovy and its varients work are because (1) it makes you feel full, and (2) it makes some foods taste like shit. So you're losing weight because you aren't eating as much. Once you're off the drugs, unless you have discipline to maintain the lower caloric intake, you'll put on weight again. I love my steak, and the very thought of taking something that would make me not like it, is appaling.

One thing is that lean muscle helps to burn calories, which helps to keep weight down. As you increase your muscle mass, the calories you burn per second increases. Science says that people need 1-1.6 grams of protein per kilogram (2.205lbs) of bodyweight to maintain or build muscle. If you aren't eating enough protein, you're not supporting your muscular system, as you grow older, this is going to affect your metabolism. Also, remember that not 100% of the weight of meat is protein - a pound of raw ribeye steak contains about 85g protein.

Another thing is that starches and sugars on the other hand tell your body to convert whatever unspent calories you have into fat. Too much of this before your body has had a chance to burn off the calories consumed will cause weight gain. This is at least partially why diets like Adkins and Keto work.
 

BIGBOB62

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I am diabetic and have been using Ozempic. I'm stopping it. I didnt really need to lose weight, I was after it for diabetic benefits. I've lost too much weight at this point to be healthy and need to go back on insulin. I was about 20 pounds over target and am now 25 under my target weight. There’s nothing I can do to gain weight on this drug. I’m never hungry and get sick if I eat too much.

My comments-
1. As insurance goes it's somewhat covered as a diabetic, but not at all by my plan for weight loss from what I have heard. Whether wegovy or ozempic. On my insurance which i think is decent it costs $240 a month.

2. You should ramp up your dosage to avoid the worst of side effects. There's 3 levels. at least a month between levels and stop if its unbearable. But side effects are there if you eat too much, or the wrong foods. Anything fatty or oily causes issues, including burgers and steaks. Or anything heavy, it just sits in your stomach for days. It’s very hard to exercise hard on this drug. You throw up.

3. The side effects for me are all GI related. ridiculous constipation (days) and heartburn with occaisional diarrhea (a bad hour or two). Or vomiting. My doctor keeps adding drugs and supplements trying to help, but at this point I want to Chuck it and go back to just insulin.

4. the weight loss for me was like 4-5 pounds a week until I recognized I was losing too fast and needed more food. Lately it’s been 1-2 pounds. I’ve never gained weight on this. I dont know what’s going to happen when I stop.

5. This has interfered with my entertainment sessions somewhat. I’m lethargic, paranoid about losing control of bowels some days. Girls have been understanding, but it’s another factor in me quitting.

6. It’s definitely helped my blood sugar. It’s nice to just have a shot a week.
 

kgirler

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BIGBOB62, Thank you for that input. I toyed with trying Trulicity and even got a month supply but never used it. By the way, Medicare would not cover Ozempic, but substituted Trulicity. The cost was about $250 as a copay. I bought it on label for diabetes control.

But what freaked me out was the retinopathy. I have already lost one eye to retinopathy caused by Viagra (a little publicized fact). I’m sorry to hear about your experience. I really urge everyone to control weight the old fashioned way-diet and exercise.
 
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