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What happened to DDG girls

kevbinx2

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I think LKS Lucy is a contender for the DDG club
I understand beauty is in the eye of the behold but knew you’ll get some heat for this comment. Key though is as long as you enjoy.
frankly the talent now is so so and agree kgirl quality has not recovered to prepandemic levels.
 

Skeetmuffin

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No one really qualifies for DDG last several yrs, except maybe a couple but no one currently. I would say you have to go back 8-10 yrs+ for the golden era. Objectively on appearance it was def way better before, so I disagree it’s nostalgia. Back in the day, at any given time I had 2-3 good options to choose from. These days even when I want to hobby it’s a challenge to find even one. My visits are way down over the years because of it
 

splv

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It is true the RB golden era is gone. Big reasons include:
- Tax law changes did away with stock options from most tech companies, taking away disposable income from many potential BA customers.
- It became much more challenging to market provider services after the FBI crackdown that took out the likes of RB, AAMPmaps, etc.
- Pandemic made it difficult for providers to get here.
- Customer base has shrunk because many have moved to less expensive locations to do remote work.
- Pricing in BA is lower than other metro areas so talent has more incentive to work elsewhere.
I agree with abouttimetogo though, that we still have it good in the BA. I appreciate what I have. My rotation is full of providers who fit my spec and I consider to be DDG, providing much better service than the KGFE days AND without the high pricing of other big cities. Girls I know well tell me business is slow in other places like SoCal. Good for us. There has always been plenty of B&S. That part has not really gotten worse or better IMO. There are less ads that say "DDG" now mostly because a few years ago it used to be the same dude writing ad copy for all the girls because so many orgs were connected. I swear I think they just had 10 sentences that got randomly used in each ad. The remnants are still there but several new players have moved in over the past couple years.
 

Jjohnjayk

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If you ask me, the real reason for the drop in DDG talent from Korea is the rise of BJ / Afreeca / OnlyFans. You can do sex work from the comfort of your own home and if you’re in the top echelon of attractiveness, make a decent living.

If I were a hot DDG Korean girl, why would I even get into the Room Salon/Anma/OfficeTel game if BJ life were an option.

And even then, why would I go abroad to a foreign country where I’d be scared out of my wits and subject to zero legal protections.

Whether the rumors are true or not, it’s no surprise we’d be getting North Koreans and China-born Koreans making the trek. I mean visiting the US would be exciting and I imagine their prospects for work aren’t great in South Korea where they’re likely discriminated against heavily.

And sad to say, the US just isn’t the only place these gals could go. Japan has always been a go-to for Kgirls and more recently, China. And you may not like to hear it but they probably pay way more there too.
 

CenturyLink

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We're all forgetting one big reason for no young hot girls. Its because of the pse + cip requirements. I remember when gsc and lsc had new young girls coming in with super tight pussies. Some of them would only last 2-3 days though. I'd rather have tightness with a cover than a loose pse tbh. Went soft in 3 out of 4 girls this past month.
 

darkwingbuck

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If you ask me, the real reason for the drop in DDG talent from Korea is the rise of BJ / Afreeca / OnlyFans. You can do sex work from the comfort of your own home and if you’re in the top echelon of attractiveness, make a decent living.

If I were a hot DDG Korean girl, why would I even get into the Room Salon/Anma/OfficeTel game if BJ life were an option.

And even then, why would I go abroad to a foreign country where I’d be scared out of my wits and subject to zero legal protections.

Whether the rumors are true or not, it’s no surprise we’d be getting North Koreans and China-born Koreans making the trek. I mean visiting the US would be exciting and I imagine their prospects for work aren’t great in South Korea where they’re likely discriminated against heavily.

And sad to say, the US just isn’t the only place these gals could go. Japan has always been a go-to for Kgirls and more recently, China. And you may not like to hear it but they probably pay way more there too.
I lean towards this as well. Its not just specialized sites per se... its really the embrace of internet streaming platform as as a whole. You can be a titty streamer on twitch pretending to game and simps will pay real good money. Just so many options out there better than fucking ten random dudes a day in a dark apartment with some known safety concerns...unless you really need a lot of money fast they are all more attractive.

Back in the day a DDG girl could fly under the radar. Now an ig or onlyfans page is all you need. Gems rarely slip through the cracks nowadays. It's like scouting in sports. You get less and less unknown athletes blowing up.
 

CenturyLink

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Where are we getting this info that DDG kgirls make more money on the internet. Is this accurate? Has anyone here actually paid for a onlyfans kgirl? I think the most popular onlyfans girls are fluent in english and they're mostly european/american from what I've seen
 

justmaui

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Where are we getting this info that DDG kgirls make more money on the internet. Is this accurate? Has anyone here actually paid for a onlyfans kgirl? I think the most popular onlyfans girls are fluent in english and they're mostly european/american from what I've seen
Very good point. Some (very few I suspect) make $$$ on the net but that’s the exception and not the rule. Just because a girl is DDG doesn’t mean she can market herself into viral posts and revenue streams.
 

darkwingbuck

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Do note I wasn't necessarily referring to existing kgirls taking up streaming etc.


More like, beautiful Korean women who aren't in the profession yet looking at ways to make money, there are just way more opportunities for near immediate profit than going to this profession in the first place.

This is just my opinion though. There's just way more opportunities for people to make money nowadays in general via side hustles on the internet, and good looking women certainly are one of the first ones in line there.
 

CenturyLink

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Yeah It's definitely easier to go online naked. I understand that part. Idk about an Asian country, where they all have some level of reputation for having providers

Take Thailand for example, no man is gonna pay to see pictures when there's a ton of girls around for cheaper. I'm sure there's a lot of providers in south Korea as well. Idk if it's true I'm just saying
 

Abouttimetogo

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Yeah It's definitely easier to go online naked. I understand that part. Idk about an Asian country, where they all have some level of reputation for having providers

Take Thailand for example, no man is gonna pay to see pictures when there's a ton of girls around for cheaper. I'm sure there's a lot of providers in south Korea as well. Idk if it's true I'm just saying
The pay per view model will over time pay less and less as free online offerings keep getting better.
 

darkwingbuck

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Sure, I agree that there have to exist live working girls. All I'm saying is visibility of DDG girls is a lot higher nowadays, from the ground up

A good looking girl puts her pics on IG, boom she has modeling agencies knocking on her door. Endorsement deals etc. She makes a YouTube or twitch channel and suddenly she's getting hits etc. Not even naked on camera but she's taking in cash.

This wasn't the case something like 12 years ago. Smartphones, social media and everyone being on the net as opposed to just "nerds" like myself who have been on the internet since the 90s..... really introduced women to being noticed. Whereas before she'd have to go out and show herself off to agencies etc. It's just so much more streamlined to pick off model quality girls.
 

Jjohnjayk

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Where are we getting this info that DDG kgirls make more money on the internet. Is this accurate? Has anyone here actually paid for a onlyfans kgirl? I think the most popular onlyfans girls are fluent in english and they're mostly european/american from what I've seen
Afreeca.tv is Korean OnlyFans. There are platforms in CN and JP too.
Hell.. even Twitch and IG are lucrative if you have enough followers. There’s a whole other internet that opens up when you speak the language.
 

Jjohnjayk

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It’s all trickle down and us US mongers are near the bottom of the totem pole.

Here’s my rough estimate from what I’ve discussed with providers over time.

Twitch/IG model (non-nude) > OF/BJ (nude) > Local country sex work (10pro room salon/officetel/anma) > nearby country sex work (JP deliheru / CN / HK / SG) > Western country sex work tier 1 (LA) > Western country sex work tier 2 (SJ, NYC, Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago) > AMP
 

CenturyLink

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let's do some math, a provider sees 10 guys a day , they get half of $$.8, so $.4. that's 1.4k a day. The average OF model makes $180 a month according to Google. A provider would end up making around 40k each month if she saw 10 guys everday. that is a lot of money for any girl
 

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People are always nostalgic. It was better yesterday. Nah. You take the best looking woman in any given year from each of the best orgs and odds are she is ddg or close to it. I mean the number one person for that year. I doubt there is any dropoff overall from one year to the next. And unquestionably service has improved. Remember kgfe? Are we nostalgic for that? We have it very good in the bay area. Most of the US is terrible in comparison. People just like to complain.
LMAO no.

There hasn't been any DDG for the longest time. Sure, maybe once in a blue moon, or some great young and hot ones in the early BGC days, but everyone we get now are aunties, gilfs, 40+ washed up girls, and people lining up for fuglies like Yuffie. I keep repeating this and nobody seems to want to admit it: STOP SEEING THESE PROVIDERS. Until you start incentivizing good behavior (that means repeating with young and true hotties), and stop incentivizing BAD behaviors (stop seeing anyone from AA and stop seeing these old GILFS), nothing is going to change.

I'd say, bring on the hot 20 year olds and DDG, and let them charge $500-$600. Most of you cheap charlies won't be able to afford it, and they can just work a lot less without dealing with some of you. The stories I've heard of half of you from girls are laughable and concerning. The fact that guys are continuing to even see the current lineups just shows lack of control and discipline, no wonder why we don't get any more hot women. For anyone delusional in saying that beauty is in the eye of the beholder just need to get their eyes checked out.
 

48n8

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I also don't buy the argument that we got it good. Good in comparison to what, nothing? Shitty options doesn't mean that it's good. If you're talking about an ends to a mean, just the fact of cumming, then I suppose, but LA and other places have hotter girls that's still PSE, so I don't know how people are benchmarking this as "good". Let the market dictate the pricing. If you want ugly gilfs, more power to you, but they shouldn't be charging this market rate. For the REAL DDGs and hot young girls, let the market decide the pricing, and if that's $600+ or more, so be it. At least at that point, I wouldn't have to wait days and attempts of prebooking just to find out whether some girl is worth it or not (like in the case of Seri, which was completely overrated and not that hot).
 

Skeetmuffin

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Amen, agreed. I would pay up for true DDG and hotties. And my money is where my mouth is, or rather my money isn’t. My hobbying frequency has plummeted with the trash quality. If more ppl did same the bottom of barrel will leave the market. But ppl hobby for diff reasons and such, so I don’t have high expectation things will change much. It is what it is and I can only control my own behavior
 

Abouttimetogo

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Wow, you guys are actually pining for the days of kgfe. I found kgfe so frustrating that instead I often saw (usually Chinese) women who were much less attractive to avoid all of the maddening limitations. I felt that way no matter how hot the woman was the restrictions just killed the joy. But everyone has different memories obviously. Your comments strongly suggest that the Gfei business model has widespread appeal and will spread to more orgs. I find it appealing too (even though I don't like the higher prices). I would rather pay more than eventually lose the best talent to LA.
 
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