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This is apples and oranges. Better comparison is, visiting an AMP right after someone infected has been with the same girl, vs grocery store if someone infected has been in the same aisle. AMP is much more risky (smaller, enclosed space, poor air circulation, high proximity to the girl). Basic physics of dispersion. Even saying a grocery store "with bad ventilation" doesn't change this (large volume of air, doors to the outdoors opening and closing). AMPs obviously are not known for their ventilation either. They are small, cramped, shitty little spaces for fucking, as much as we love them.
Having said that, rates are way down. 1% of tests are positive currently, with less than 200 new cases per day. I also note that Asians have the lowest case rate of any ethnic group in the NYC stats, 40% lower than white people. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page. I personally am not partaking but I do think the risk is a lot lower now than it was a few months ago.
Having said that, rates are way down. 1% of tests are positive currently, with less than 200 new cases per day. I also note that Asians have the lowest case rate of any ethnic group in the NYC stats, 40% lower than white people. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page. I personally am not partaking but I do think the risk is a lot lower now than it was a few months ago.
Great post. I'd just add one more thing. Imagine a provider at an AMP who saw like 20 customers the last week and maybe or or two were infected. If she gets infected, its possible that her symptoms don't even arrive before she goes into work. Now there's 20 customers the following week that could unknowingly get infected from DFK or even something less. A box of cheerios will not breathe COVID on you. The risk transmission mediums are not comparable.
There isn’t much for me to argue for but I’m just mongering based off how low the city overall is dealing with infections, hospitalizations, and deaths. With the amount of businesses opening back up, a lot of people are circulating around the city. Whether or not outdoor dining helps or not i don’t know. I don’t suppose there’s any covid related clinicians on here to chime in? Lol.
Anyway, i would love to see statistics on how many unique visitors these establishments receive and how frequently they repeat.
I suspect a lot of mongering is going on because people have been cooped up inside and away from civilization for so long that it seems like the AMP doors are revolving a lot but it will probably slow down.
Putting out a stat like 1 in 20 clients a provider sees is a pretty wild figure.
Anyway, i would love to see statistics on how many unique visitors these establishments receive and how frequently they repeat.
I suspect a lot of mongering is going on because people have been cooped up inside and away from civilization for so long that it seems like the AMP doors are revolving a lot but it will probably slow down.
Putting out a stat like 1 in 20 clients a provider sees is a pretty wild figure.
Just putting the numbers out there for people to make their own informed decisions. Regarding the statistics you cite, may I ask what the odds are for each case? Like any statistic, I assume it depends on assumptions and how it's massaged, i.e. length of trip to AMP on car trip, etc...I have no idea so curious how you reached the conclusion.
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it’s actually simple to calculate without any percentage: nyc has had streaks of 0 daily covid deaths for several days since the end of July (i believe the first day with no covid deaths in nyc was july 14). let’s assume 0.5 daily covid deaths for a year at this pace. That’s around 180 deaths in a year total. There is an average of 200 pedestrian and cyclist killed by cars in the nyc streets each year. That’s without counting fire arm deaths and other incidents.
I’m not comparing the 2, just putting the risk of covid death into perspective by probability.
it’s actually simple to calculate without any percentage: nyc has had streaks of 0 daily covid deaths for several days since the end of July (i believe the first day with no covid deaths in nyc was july 14). let’s assume 0.5 daily covid deaths for a year at this pace. That’s around 180 deaths in a year total. There is an average of 200 pedestrian and cyclist killed by cars in the nyc streets each year. That’s without counting fire arm deaths and other incidents.
I’m not comparing the 2, just putting the risk of covid death into perspective by probability.
I'm not citing one in twenty as a stat, just explaining the reasoning of how the virus can spread. Otherwise I agree with you that the case statistics for NYC look good and give us reason to be optimistic. I just want to make sure people dont get false impressions on how the virus spreads and what the risks are.
For example, the chances of getting HIV through an AMP are almost zero. But it would still be dangerous misinformation for someone to claim that washing your unit with soap offers additional protection. Its just misinformation even if the underlying point is that "its safe"
For example, the chances of getting HIV through an AMP are almost zero. But it would still be dangerous misinformation for someone to claim that washing your unit with soap offers additional protection. Its just misinformation even if the underlying point is that "its safe"
Good discussion but damnit....I can’t do it. This is one of those weird doesn’t come along often low risk, high reward situations (in my opinion) which I can’t get myself to do. I envy you guys who are out there...
I think I might go with a masked nude massage/HE, gotta at least touch some skins! Anyone got a good rec?
I think I might go with a masked nude massage/HE, gotta at least touch some skins! Anyone got a good rec?
With the virus, it's quite possible that you will not die but will have debilitating symptoms for the rest of your life. They are finding increased cases of post viral myalgic encephalomyelitis.
In addition, you can pass the same situation on to others without realizing it. If you are hit by a car you don't cause other people to be hit by a car. With the virus, the spread is exponential.
In addition, you can pass the same situation on to others without realizing it. If you are hit by a car you don't cause other people to be hit by a car. With the virus, the spread is exponential.
Yes the virus could spike again, I'm not arguing it's the same thing, but the numbers help to realize what the current risk is.
As per the post viral consequences like you say those are cases, not proof. What could be said of influenza and other viruses consequences, with cases you can build many theories.
As per the post viral consequences like you say those are cases, not proof. What could be said of influenza and other viruses consequences, with cases you can build many theories.
I just wanna point out that from what is known about covid transmission, you probably have a high chance of bringing it to an AMP than getting it from an AMP. The staff at these places have been hiding indoors and disinfecting the space for some time. Some of the talent have retreated into Queens because foreigners resist wearing a mask more than others.
New York City is in a good position to operate normally again but people from other states coming in could bring in a new wave of viruses.
That being said i think the city has gone a few days or week without new cases and inpatients are dwindling. New reviews popping up every day. It’s pretty safe to visit an AMP
New York City is in a good position to operate normally again but people from other states coming in could bring in a new wave of viruses.
That being said i think the city has gone a few days or week without new cases and inpatients are dwindling. New reviews popping up every day. It’s pretty safe to visit an AMP
i'm just going to have to wait for the vaccine