DELUSIONAL thinking...

[doofu77]

You also have to look at it from providers perspective. There are reasons why they didn't go Indie. English, unfamiliarity, risk etc

There are also other reasons why clients pay 1k for escorts. Most of which are not because of "quality".

 

[Zzzz]

Rather...wise connoisseurs of good value. Makes me wonder...would it be an insult or compliment to tell a girl like Cherry or Jelly that she is good value?

I blame it on these middle-aged Chinese gals who will do essentially anything for sub $300/ hr. They have kept the prices for Asian gals oppressively low.

Over the last 2-3 years, prices have gradually increased in the indy space, but the AMPs/ AAMPs remain stagnant.

This is why I respect someone like Koreanna, at least she maintains a $500/ hr. price point (although, she could probably boost her range to $800-$1000). Jelly could boost her range to $600-800/ hr.)

Most indys who advertise on the main platforms start at $700 hr. or above. I actually hate to see my Korean gals charging such low rates. The middle-aged Chinese gals are a lost cause though and I don't visit with them.

 

[richardp2918]

I blame it on these middle-aged Chinese gals who will do essentially anything for sub $300/ hr. They have kept the prices for Asian gals oppressively low.

Over the last 2-3 years, prices have gradually increased in the indy space, but the AMPs/ AAMPs remain stagnant.

This is why I respect someone like Koreanna, at least she maintains a $500/ hr. price point (although, she could probably boost her range to $800-$1000). Jelly could boost her range to $600-800/ hr.)

Most indys who advertise on the main platforms start at $700 hr. or above. I actually hate to see my Korean gals charging such low rates. The middle-aged Chinese gals are a lost cause though and I don't visit with them.

Pre-2016, NY KMP girls were charging $160 half hour and $200 full hour for non-GFE and I believe that was the same as far back as 2005 or so. Prices have gone up since, primarily due to GFE services I think.

 

[Zzzz]

Pre-2016, NY KMP girls were charging $160 half hour and $200 full hour for non-GFE and I believe that was the same as far back as 2005 or so. Prices have gone up since, primarily due to GFE services I think.

Right...the business model is based on low cost/ high volume, but that approach quickly increases gals mileage and run them into the ground quickly. This longstanding pattern of Asian gals being treated as second-class in the escort space, while white gals are charging double/ triple the amount is real BS.

 

[thieftakergeneral]

While this high vol model sucks for the pros, I can't exactly say I want a big shift The 3-4bills/hr model lets me hobby 4x a month without impacting my other financial goals negatively. Bump it to the indy model, I would need to wait till I get into the C-suite to afford that shit.

 

[nycdude]

Right...the business model is based on low cost/ high volume, but that approach quickly increases gals mileage and run them into the ground quickly. This longstanding pattern of Asian gals being treated as second-class in the escort space, while white gals are charging double/ triple the amount is real BS.

Kind of hard to say they are being treated as 2nd class. Supply and demand. Some girls want to work a lot, others want lower volume or part time.

Plus, judging from the posts on this forum, very few members here are willing to spend more than $300/hr.

 

[Reachme.here091]

And if you look at flushing, fewer still will go over 100. Point is that this business is ymmv, just like any other. and if the price goes up and nothing changes in supply/demand ratio, then more has to be on the offer. Ie better appearance, clothing, makeup, personality, higher education, regular medical screening, extra cleaning ie wax/duche/enema, all vaccines up to date, including taking prep and birth control.

 

[midtownman]

Kind of hard to say they are being treated as 2nd class. Supply and demand. Some girls want to work a lot, others want lower volume or part time.

Plus, judging from the posts on this forum, very few members here are willing to spend more than $300/hr.

Kind of hard to say they are being treated as 2nd class. Supply and demand. Some girls want to work a lot, others want lower volume or part time.

Plus, judging from the posts on this forum, very few members here are willing to spend more than $300/hr.

Yes.
And some guys bail over an extra 20dollars.

 

[doofu77]

Right...the business model is based on low cost/ high volume, but that approach quickly increases gals mileage and run them into the ground quickly. This longstanding pattern of Asian gals being treated as second-class in the escort space, while white gals are charging double/ triple the amount is real BS.

Most these AMP girls are on short term visas. They have no other ways to make income. White girls have alot of options that Asian girls don't. White girls can always do something else if escorting don't work out.

 

[cocolover81]

Right...the business model is based on low cost/ high volume, but that approach quickly increases gals mileage and run them into the ground quickly. This longstanding pattern of Asian gals being treated as second-class in the escort space, while white gals are charging double/ triple the amount is real BS.

This isn’t exclusive to just this kind of business either

 

[pocoloco51]

Sorry, but I feel COMPELLED to "bump" this thread.

The "delusional thinking" appears to be SPREADING.

Went on a couple of different sites today, and couldn't believe the RATES.

Are these ladies out of their MINDS?

Is everyone spending their one stimulus check ALL on ONE girl/session?

TOO many of these chicks are starting their rates at $600 a pop!

GTFOH!

I'm NOT cheap, either.

Dropped $1.5K on a lady over a week ago.

But at least she was an ACTUAL PS, not some wanna be "fluffer" (and a BEAUTIFUL woman to boot! )

Some of these chicks barely have their BRACES off and they somehow feel ENTITLED to charge these rates!

Just who the $#% is ADVISING these ladies? (smh...)

Makes me wanna quit the "game" altogether and become a CELIBATE monk instead.

 

[richardp2918]

Sorry, but I feel COMPELLED to "bump" this thread.

The "delusional thinking" appears to be SPREADING.

Went on a couple of different sites today, and couldn't believe the RATES.

Are these ladies out of their MINDS?

Is everyone spending their one stimulus check ALL on ONE girl/session?

TOO many of these chicks are starting their rates at $600 a pop!

GTFOH!

I'm NOT cheap, either.

Dropped $1.5K on a lady over a week ago.

But at least she was an ACTUAL PS, not some wanna be "fluffer" (and a BEAUTIFUL woman to boot! )

Some of these chicks barely have their BRACES off and they somehow feel ENTITLED to charge these rates!

Just who the $#% is ADVISING these ladies? (smh...)

Makes me wanna quit the "game" altogether and become a CELIBATE monk instead.

My spur of the moment theory. The pool of mongers still mongering during a pandemic has a steep, inelastic demand curve. And the ho supply curve has shifted and tilted to become inelastic as well. Increasing prices won't lure as many his back. Makes sense the prices are rising.

 

[pocoloco51]

My spur of the moment theory. The pool of mongers still mongering during a pandemic has a steep, inelastic demand curve. And the ho supply curve has shifted and tilted to become inelastic as well. Increasing prices won't lure as many his back. Makes sense the prices are rising.

In ENGLISH, Rich.

In English.

 

[richardp2918]

In ENGLISH, Rich.

In English.

In monger lingo, any monger banging whores during a pandemic is hardcore motivated and won't let a few extra benjamins get in the way.

And the few whores willing to provide during a pandemic has a lot less competition and won't see a lot of other whores coming into the market even if they raise prices.

 

[pocoloco51]

In monger lingo, any monger banging whores during a pandemic is hardcore motivated and won't let a few extra benjamins get in the way.

And the few whores willing to provide during a pandemic has a lot less competition and won't see a lot of other whores coming into the market even if they raise prices.

 

[Zzzz]

Sorry, but I feel COMPELLED to "bump" this thread.

The "delusional thinking" appears to be SPREADING.

Went on a couple of different sites today, and couldn't believe the RATES.

Are these ladies out of their MINDS?

Is everyone spending their one stimulus check ALL on ONE girl/session?

TOO many of these chicks are starting their rates at $600 a pop!

GTFOH!

I'm NOT cheap, either.

Dropped $1.5K on a lady over a week ago.

But at least she was an ACTUAL PS, not some wanna be "fluffer" (and a BEAUTIFUL woman to boot! )

Some of these chicks barely have their BRACES off and they somehow feel ENTITLED to charge these rates!

Just who the $#% is ADVISING these ladies? (smh...)

Makes me wanna quit the "game" altogether and become a CELIBATE monk instead.

Listen, I once came across a gal on Twitter, Celine Baudin was her name. She advertised a rate of $1000/hr. Soon after COVID-19 hit, she had to move back in with her parents because she couldn't afford rent.

This business is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Simply because someone presents themselves as a "high-end escort" doesn't mean that they're rolling in dough or have a lot of appointments getting scheduled.

I'm sure it's not the easiest decision one makes to sell their body, and for some of these gals, their steep prices quells the cognitive dissonance they may experience as a result of entering this business.

It's a completely different mentality from the Chinese gals who come from the humblest beginning and trying to carve out their American dream. A few guys said it best before, working the farm back in rural China may be much worse than taking it all day for $2-300 a pop.

 

[Zzzz]

Listen, I once came across a gal on Twitter, Celine Baudin was her name. She advertised a rate of $1000/hr. Soon after COVID-19 hit, she had to move back in with her parents because she couldn't afford rent.

This business is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Simply because someone presents themselves as a "high-end escort" doesn't mean that they're rolling in dough or have a lot of appointments getting scheduled.

I'm sure it's not the easiest decision one makes to sell their body, and for some of these gals, their steep prices quells the cognitive dissonance they may experience as a result of entering this business.

It's a completely different mentality from the Chinese gals who come from the humblest beginning and trying to carve out their American dream. A few guys said it best before, working the farm back in rural China may be much worse than taking it all day for $2-300 a pop.

The fact is that many of these gals do feel a greater sense of entitlement compared with your typical middle-aged Asian provider working at these high-volume AMPs/ agencies.

There's a social hierarchy to sex work, and once you get into FS territory, then that hierarchy is based on the amount being charged. Few gals want to be positioned at the bottom of the pyramid, because it's a place of squalor.

 

[pocoloco51]

Listen, I once came across a gal on Twitter, Celine Baudin was her name. She advertised a rate of $1000/hr. Soon after COVID-19 hit, she had to move back in with her parents because she couldn't afford rent.

This business is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Simply because someone presents themselves as a "high-end escort" doesn't mean that they're rolling in dough or have a lot of appointments getting scheduled.

I'm sure it's not the easiest decision one makes to sell their body, and for some of these gals, their steep prices quells the cognitive dissonance they may experience as a result of entering this business.

It's a completely different mentality from the Chinese gals who come from the humblest beginning and trying to carve out their American dream. A few guys said it best before, working the farm back in rural China may be much worse than taking it all day for $2-300 a pop.

Oh, boo-hoo, cry me a RIVER.

Easy? No.

But, in America, does someone who has even a RUDIMENTARY education have OPTIONS? Yes.

Not saying they're the BEST of options, but still..., compared to whatever "shithole countries" (to use a current turn of phrase!) these Asian girls come from?

If anyone should have a DOUR, bitter outlook on life (and deservedly so), it should be them, and yet, I continue to be amazed at their projected positive attitudes (genuine or not), and their inspiring work ethic.

Yet, these are the same ladies that are getting the "short end" of the stick when it comes to RATES?

Yeah, "something is rotten in the state of Denmark" indeed (smh... ).

 

[pocoloco51]

The fact is that many of these gals do feel a greater sense of entitlement compared with your typical middle-aged Asian provider working at these high-volume AMPs/ agencies...

What they need to do is GET OVER themselves.

 

[thieftakergeneral]

The thing is why would they? If they can make it work at a rate that lets them work less, then there is no incentive to charge less. The demand for pussy far exceeds supply.