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hey guys lets tone it down
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At the end of the day, guys are going to write what they write. I'd say let everybody do their own. The only way a mass change occurs, and rules are respected, is if the mods start to monitor and crack down, of course AFTER establishing a guideline in the first place. Otherwise, there is just going to be a lot of frustration.
I agree with the post, but I am not going to worry about it. Just worry about my own contribution..
I agree with the post, but I am not going to worry about it. Just worry about my own contribution..
In several newspaper articles about busts in small towns, LE was quoted saying that they read online reports about illegal activities as part of their investigation. So it is established they follow these boards if they are doing an investigation. Of course this is not admissible in court. But it does give them the probable cause they need to schedule an investigation. This isn't a problem for the big city spas but it is a problem for those small suburban spas.
The problem is these reviews are found by Google since logins aren't required. Even though the so-called "private details" are restricted, guys are freely going into detail in the threads. And, there are no rules of any kind. So even if everyone on this thread came to an agreement, tomorrow someone new will join and know nothing about what's acceptable. Spahunters and TER both had rules, they enforced the rules and they kept the juicy details out of Google. If this site is going to survive, it needs to do that.
I recommend that if you really like a spa or a girl, be very careful what you post here until this is fixed.
TopJimmy is the admin and if you look in this thread, he did say he is working on some changes - since he is paying attention to this thread, it may be the right place to get his attention -- https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/credit-for-your-reviews.93/page-17
The problem is these reviews are found by Google since logins aren't required. Even though the so-called "private details" are restricted, guys are freely going into detail in the threads. And, there are no rules of any kind. So even if everyone on this thread came to an agreement, tomorrow someone new will join and know nothing about what's acceptable. Spahunters and TER both had rules, they enforced the rules and they kept the juicy details out of Google. If this site is going to survive, it needs to do that.
I recommend that if you really like a spa or a girl, be very careful what you post here until this is fixed.
TopJimmy is the admin and if you look in this thread, he did say he is working on some changes - since he is paying attention to this thread, it may be the right place to get his attention -- https://ampreviews.net/index.php?threads/credit-for-your-reviews.93/page-17
What did you expect? The owner of this site certainly does not give a crap about safety... otherwise everything would be blocked from Google and direct copies of messages would not be in email box.
I already shared these concerns but did not get a response from admins.
ALL OF THIS IS EASY TO IMPLEMENT!
I already shared these concerns but did not get a response from admins.
ALL OF THIS IS EASY TO IMPLEMENT!
A few points from my perspective:
1- I never go to places that are constantly reviewed
2- I will never ever review my favorite places. This is because after I have been to a place 2-4 in two weeks and introduce myself and talk to the girls there they see I very nice and clean and offer me a ton of extras. It never fails.
3- Some reviewer's dont know when to shut the hell up. A review here or there is ok but we dont need to know about evertime you go outside.
4- the most valuable reviews are the take one for the team and finding a new place.
1- I never go to places that are constantly reviewed
2- I will never ever review my favorite places. This is because after I have been to a place 2-4 in two weeks and introduce myself and talk to the girls there they see I very nice and clean and offer me a ton of extras. It never fails.
3- Some reviewer's dont know when to shut the hell up. A review here or there is ok but we dont need to know about evertime you go outside.
4- the most valuable reviews are the take one for the team and finding a new place.
I don’t agree that giving details promotes LE investigations. Even if a post contained no information, the mere fact that the place was posted about would be enough to get on LE radar. Couple that with the place itself advertising online in a way consistent with amps and LE would know the deal. Neighbors certainly don’t need reviews from this board, no matter how explicit to know what’s going on in these places. They’ll notice a steady stream of single men going in, and young (sometimes) Asian women leaving and they’ll figure it out. My point is that I don’t believe stating the standard an acronyms in pubic details has any effect on whether a place is investigated or not. Likewise, some say they don’t share information at all so as to keep the place safe from being shut down but that contradicts the purpose of the board it seems to me.
It would help if clarification on the purpose of the board and the acceptable degree of specificity in both public and private details would be posted by a moderator. It would be helpful to me to state explicitly if approval of a review by a moderator means that the information presented, in the manner it was presented, is also approved for the board. I’ve understood that if a review was approved, the information presented, and how it was presented, was also approved. If another monger disagrees, that shouldn’t rise to the level of a moderator establishing policy but it seems that posted criticisms are meant to have the “force of law” but without the necessary authority to establish it. Then the frustration level increases when someone doesn’t abide by these suggestions and we have endless arguments about the same things.
It would help if clarification on the purpose of the board and the acceptable degree of specificity in both public and private details would be posted by a moderator. It would be helpful to me to state explicitly if approval of a review by a moderator means that the information presented, in the manner it was presented, is also approved for the board. I’ve understood that if a review was approved, the information presented, and how it was presented, was also approved. If another monger disagrees, that shouldn’t rise to the level of a moderator establishing policy but it seems that posted criticisms are meant to have the “force of law” but without the necessary authority to establish it. Then the frustration level increases when someone doesn’t abide by these suggestions and we have endless arguments about the same things.
I actually send in an email/message via the contact us THE FIRST TIME I I found the forum with these suggestions and pointed it out a few times... no response. Sad part is... this is all really easy to do and have solutions to restructuring the way reviews are done, etc to make the site more useable.
Excellent post firr. I have been a believer of not posting any details for many years. I have found it interesting that this site allows so many details. How do we know that this site was not set up by LE to gather more explicit evidence against all of us > mongers and providers alike?
I know it probably sounds farfetched to some but with technology today, anything is possible.
I know it probably sounds farfetched to some but with technology today, anything is possible.
As someone who had the misfortune to be at an AMP at the time it was raided by police, I can only say that less public information about anything beyond a massage is a good idea.
I will also say that during my last two AMP visits both masseuses made VERY clear to me that they did not want reviews. I honored their requests.
I will also say that during my last two AMP visits both masseuses made VERY clear to me that they did not want reviews. I honored their requests.
One of the masseuses I see regularly saw a review of herself here and was very concerned about what was written. She actually said to me it made her think it may be time for her to retire. We all need to think smartly about how much we want to write and whether it does more harm than good to us and the gals we see.
So what is the purpose of the board? To provide reviews that avoid any mention or indication of extras? Or to give information only to those who can see private details or better yet, through PM, which is incredibly inefficient. It seems this exists already as YELP for therapeutic massage. I’m not trying to incite an argument, I’m being serious. It seems that in an attempt to avoid incriminating posts (which I think are not incriminating in any practical way) we actually defeat the purpose of the board to share information necessary to avoid TOFTT situations.