Read over again what some of the posters on this thread say about society and women in general.
They all share a common thread that most civvie women don't want to be with them and that civvie women are wrong/deluded/dumb/secrety miserable or will eventually be miserable for not wanting to be with men like them.
The hopelessness and blame are so co thick you could cut them with a knife.
No straight man can actually believe those things about women and himself without being angry at women and miserable about his chances with civvie women.
Definition of "wrong/deluded... " can be anything. But, for me the entire topic boils down one way: people who make their own decisions, they fall into two categories. First, is people like me, who are already successful and cannot be cancelled or unemployed or broke or sad or anything, I've already made it and there's very very little that could change that. So, if I want to wear a blue mohawk, which I'm doing now, and am going to present at an industry conference Thursday in Singapore, with blue mohawk, in front of peers and customers and suppliers and government agents, I can do it and there will be no consequence, and I am no going to be asking anyone to cancel my student debt, pay my rent, reduce my electric bill, buy me a new sailfoam every year, subsidize my bus rides, pay for my cable, or really anything. I'm the one FILLING the treasury, no emptying it. And I don't even get a say on how it's emptied or filled.
The other people who make their own decisions are man children and little girls in big girls' bodies. They have not made it, they have nothing, and the first decisions they make are "I'm not going to comply", and then they find out at say 25 that all their peers who didn't "be themselves" are having babies and buying homes and getting their second big promotion and clearing 100k and are not secretly happy or unhappy, they are outwardly happy because they ARE happy. Do I think every woman who "beez herself" is unhappy? Of course no. But anyone who is happy living in a box apartment with the rest of the people who go to work paying for it all, and getting pregnant with a trick baby every 9 months and stuffing her ass with fudge rounds and all the time begging for "freedom" and "choice" and everything for free, well, I despise these people. I despise them so much that I can't even stand that they breathe the same air I do. They can be themselves all they want, but they can shut the fuck up when they put their hand out demanding I pay for their lives or do any action or stop doing any action that they demand. Fuck those people. I don't begrudge them the choice to do whatever they like and live their life however they want to, because I do exactly this every minute since ~1990 or so, but I absolutely begrudge them, women and men, the choice to do go their own way and then demand the government revenue agents force me pay for it again at bayonet tip.
What does it have to do with topic? Topic is based on feminist thought that they "don't need a man", and they can "live my best life" and all this stuff, get turt up every night for their entire 20s. They CAN. But they only can do this because Ole Vlad's money is always pouring into the treasury and there are cuck politicians that will literally give away anything to buy their way into Versailles by giving away the treasury to stupid people who vote on this kind of giveaway shit. Are women this way in any other country? Any other time in history? Doing what you want has a price tag, and for things like not getting married or having children with a man who sticks around, there are economic and social costs. And who pays these costs? The rest of us who do all the right things FIRST, and then do what we want SECOND.
Democracy and Western culture fall when the people discover that they can vote for themselves lavish gifts out of the treasury, without ever having put anything into it. Like letting your kids pick your vacation. Never going to happen.
Do we hate women? Some might, but I feel like most of us are smart and successful enough to know the path that gets you there, and we see women making choices that cannot reach that point. Some lament this because they are still looking for a mate, and this is the shit pool they have to fish in. I get that and that's shitty. But again some of us are the ones who write half a million dollars every quarter in taxes and then see these pieces of shit standing around in front of a Redner's at 0900 on a Tuesday doing nothing but chatting up convicts and other shitty people who are standing in front of Redner's at 0900 on a Tuesday morning. I have a wife, I have no concerns that these women will marry me or no. I am concerned that they are 30 and are no married and have five miscolored children and live in a one bedroom Federally subsidized apartment because of their choices. My sons are in the Army, alpha studs with good looks and muscles, have rich dad and mom with connections and access and network, and they are both college graduates. I don't have any concern that they will find mates. When they leave Army and come home, and I hire them as VPs in my plant, I am 100% sure they will find mates, and, when they have their home they buy and they have their family, they may get blue mohawk like father, and I have no worries that this will no change their lives at all. People can make their own choices, but cannot demand I pay for these choices.
Last thing, painting us all like we hate women is silly and does no argue the topic. Is it ok that women are choosing to fuck strangers and have their trick babies before getting career or home or any stabilizing life event? They are perfectly fine telling ME what I should be doing, under penalty of prison, to CONTRIBUTE to the COMMUNITY, but they have no interest in doing anything that contributes to the community. They SAY that their COMMUNITY is underserved, but I counter that NO community should be served, they should take off their fucking sweatpants and shave that stupid purple hair and put on some grownup clothes and get a real haircut and get to work and do something positive to serve their community. Their community is underserved because the only people serving the community live someplace else and don't want to give to people who won't help themselves first. Fuck them all. I don't hate women, I live with between 2 and 6 of them depending the day, I love women and I feel like women balance me to the place that keeps me from going full sociopath, which is probably my base nature. What I do hate is freeloaders, and 99% of the time, people who choose to "be myself" have chosen this first, and become freeloaders, and this is a very unattractive thing, I can imagine no dude wants to date a woman with purple hair and three differently colored babies and no job and a very worn EBT card. If they do, they are the same exact person, just with a dick.
Is society doomed? A generation with no father or five fathers in and out of their lives? A generation that lives in hotels and section 8 apartments? A generation with a few alpha gals at the top (gram and OF girls) making a shit ton of money (my best friend makes 13k a month after taxes for livestreaming herself brushing her teeth and getting ready for bed, FULLY CLOTHED) and the rest of the gals having no means to ever make the money to emulate them, despite spending every dime trying to do so? A generation with self-satisfaction above all, even the health and safety of their own children? A generation where paying 100 bucks a month for a sailfoam is more important than paying for their own student loans? All these are for society, I'll be gone in 2 or 3 decades, and again all my children will be in the top 1% till they die with very little effort. Once we as a culture get off this "pay for my shit" thing, then most of us will not give a shit what other people do. For now, while they live under MY roof, and eat MY food, they can at the least go along with OUR culture and behave.
