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Rapey or Not Rapey: Christmas Edition
- Thread starter BrettKavanaugh
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To sum up:
1. Your examples of spas filing charges were bogus for the reasons I gave.
2. The lack of charges against mongers for rape speaks for itself.
3.Your claims for amp security were absurd, dating from a gangland NY of literally 4 decades ago. Gangs still exist but how they operate has changed.
4. “Could” file charges is meaningless if they won’t file charges.
5. My final post last night was not continuing the argument, it was acknowledging the absurdity of us convincing each other of anything and signing off, as a way to say, Let’s call this one, it’s boring everyone including ourselves… myself anyway.
1. Your examples of spas filing charges were bogus for the reasons I gave.
2. The lack of charges against mongers for rape speaks for itself.
3.Your claims for amp security were absurd, dating from a gangland NY of literally 4 decades ago. Gangs still exist but how they operate has changed.
4. “Could” file charges is meaningless if they won’t file charges.
5. My final post last night was not continuing the argument, it was acknowledging the absurdity of us convincing each other of anything and signing off, as a way to say, Let’s call this one, it’s boring everyone including ourselves… myself anyway.
And yet 2 valid examples were presented. One that even matched your "criteria". So, why don't you provide examples of where a spa was also charged for reporting a rape?
You are wrong on this. Human trafficking got worse from the late 90's on. Mostly due to the expansion of AMP's, They didn't go away. They just changed their way of doing things. Even to today. Don't take my word for it. Ask any friend that has a NYPD connection.
Ever heard of freedom of choice? Better than no choice at all. Still ignoring the two cited examples, as well as the two non-Asian ones too.
This I can agree with.
You are wrong on this. Human trafficking got worse from the late 90's on. Mostly due to the expansion of AMP's, They didn't go away. They just changed their way of doing things. Even to today. Don't take my word for it. Ask any friend that has a NYPD connection.
Ever heard of freedom of choice? Better than no choice at all. Still ignoring the two cited examples, as well as the two non-Asian ones too.
This I can agree with.
There’s one fat Black guy (a few amps showed me pictures of him and he looks like Fat Albert) and during the past several years, he would target many amps in Manhattan and Brooklyn.
He would first have a session and after he’s done, he would choke the girl with one hand and use his other hand to get his money back and find more money in the room to steal. He would then ask the girl to remain quiet until he leaves.
His pictures have been shared all over Kakao and WeChat and I’m sure he browses this site to find his next victim to target. So the popular girls should move their money everyday.
Recently, many amps recognize him through the cameras and refuse to let him in. He’s also been wearing a mask or a hoodie to hide his identity but thank goodness the amps still recognize him and refuse to let him in.
He would first have a session and after he’s done, he would choke the girl with one hand and use his other hand to get his money back and find more money in the room to steal. He would then ask the girl to remain quiet until he leaves.
His pictures have been shared all over Kakao and WeChat and I’m sure he browses this site to find his next victim to target. So the popular girls should move their money everyday.
Recently, many amps recognize him through the cameras and refuse to let him in. He’s also been wearing a mask or a hoodie to hide his identity but thank goodness the amps still recognize him and refuse to let him in.
Wait - you mean there’s no Triad street hoods to level the dude with some Wing Chun?
But @krideynyc said there were!
But @krideynyc said there were!
@Blixen - I appreciate your expansive proficiency of the English language and art of the word. Would you write my new Bumble profile? I can only offer you a $50 gift card ( it doesn’t expire) and 3 pairs of tube socks my mother gave me for Christmas in 1988.
As is usual on amp reviews, the original post has been derailed into a pissing contest, a wrestling match of the will of minds that probably don’t even remember the intention of the original post.
Settle down everyone, the world is a shit show. Can’t we all just get along.
As is usual on amp reviews, the original post has been derailed into a pissing contest, a wrestling match of the will of minds that probably don’t even remember the intention of the original post.
Settle down everyone, the world is a shit show. Can’t we all just get along.
There's a reason I was so against @Blixen's arguments. He is effectively arguing FOR mongers to continue doing what this discussion is trying to prevent. If monger knew that criminal charges can be brought against them, without the provider suffering legal consequences, maybe they wouldn't be as free to continue. Legally, things have changed for this hobby. As I mentioned earlier, the Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Queens DA offices have announced that Solicitation charges will be handled as low priority cases. And even then, the focus will be on the mongers, not the providers. This isn't my opinion, this is fact that can be easily verified.And, I think empowering providers to stop believing that they have no legal recourse is entirely within the original intent of the OP.
I wish you had said that this clearly in the first place. That would have saved a lot of time. Maybe you did but I stopped paying attention early on.
That said, I don't see how the sort of things I'm talking about could be prosecuted. Hence the y in rapey. These aren't brutal beatings, or robbery. Nothing in any of those reviews, as the reviewers described it, is putting anyone in jail. That moment with Sara where consent is violated is impossible to prove. Especially since he probably made it up. In the 2nd review when she says go slow and he goes hard and fast - I don't know how a jury would handle that. But they are still at best, wildly unethical, and in the end, fundamentally and totally vile. Being a disgusting dehumanizing misogynist sociopath isn't literally a crime. (Though some of the other stuff they do, which they know not to put in the reviews, is). But nobody should be encouraging or defending any of it. Which is the second point of the original post - it's how we talk about this stuff.
That said, I don't see how the sort of things I'm talking about could be prosecuted. Hence the y in rapey. These aren't brutal beatings, or robbery. Nothing in any of those reviews, as the reviewers described it, is putting anyone in jail. That moment with Sara where consent is violated is impossible to prove. Especially since he probably made it up. In the 2nd review when she says go slow and he goes hard and fast - I don't know how a jury would handle that. But they are still at best, wildly unethical, and in the end, fundamentally and totally vile. Being a disgusting dehumanizing misogynist sociopath isn't literally a crime. (Though some of the other stuff they do, which they know not to put in the reviews, is). But nobody should be encouraging or defending any of it. Which is the second point of the original post - it's how we talk about this stuff.
I read the whole thing, it was pretty good.
I have a couple of comments, and it's the following :
"Well-adjusted adults would not put two "very"s in that title. Really nobody normal would put any very in the title."
I think that is an EXTREMELY bad generalization. There is nothing inherently *abnormal* about saying someone's looks are overrated. Or very overrated. Or very underrated.
Or is" very underrated" normal but "very overrated" not normal? Like, where's the line you draw here?
Saying looks are bad. Or that the girl is fat or overweight is pretty normal to me. We are here reviewing sexual services, and looks -- as well as performance -- are metrics that we go by.
I personally am not a fan of euphemisms and prefer saying things as they are without the intentional obfuscation or sugar coating. We are reviewing or discussing our experiences in order to let others know, not to give girl biz or make her feel some type of way. I hope we agree here, but I'm not entirely sure. Do negative/critical reviews automatically mean you're a misogynist?
Anyway, why is it abnormal to say looks were very overrated in the title ? It boggles my mind. Pretty standard saying imo.
I also found the simile with the toilet forced. I certainly agree with you about the "served her purpose" part, but how in the world do you say him saying he urinated means he equated her to a toilet?
Big reach imo. You don't have use a hyperbole or exaggerate your point. Many mongers urinate after cumming. Does this mean we all view women as toilets? Like, the logical leap here is beyond Kiergeaardian in its nature.
I have a couple of comments, and it's the following :
"Well-adjusted adults would not put two "very"s in that title. Really nobody normal would put any very in the title."
I think that is an EXTREMELY bad generalization. There is nothing inherently *abnormal* about saying someone's looks are overrated. Or very overrated. Or very underrated.
Or is" very underrated" normal but "very overrated" not normal? Like, where's the line you draw here?
Saying looks are bad. Or that the girl is fat or overweight is pretty normal to me. We are here reviewing sexual services, and looks -- as well as performance -- are metrics that we go by.
I personally am not a fan of euphemisms and prefer saying things as they are without the intentional obfuscation or sugar coating. We are reviewing or discussing our experiences in order to let others know, not to give girl biz or make her feel some type of way. I hope we agree here, but I'm not entirely sure. Do negative/critical reviews automatically mean you're a misogynist?
Anyway, why is it abnormal to say looks were very overrated in the title ? It boggles my mind. Pretty standard saying imo.
I also found the simile with the toilet forced. I certainly agree with you about the "served her purpose" part, but how in the world do you say him saying he urinated means he equated her to a toilet?
Big reach imo. You don't have use a hyperbole or exaggerate your point. Many mongers urinate after cumming. Does this mean we all view women as toilets? Like, the logical leap here is beyond Kiergeaardian in its nature.
