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Robert Kraft

Dc46

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If there's a video camera present and they say that they're doing porn or a webcam show, does it then become legal?
Yes porn is legal. I wrote a very detailed post on this subject.

Also there isn’t a grey line between a gF and prostitution. When you go to an amp you are going to a known house of prostitution. Just ringing the bell shows “ intent” to solicit. Walking in and going to your room shows “ engaging “ in prostitution.

The innocent play that she got carried away cause you were so attractive and we are two consenting adults won't work either. Why? Where you went is a “ Known house if prostituion” So you playing dumb is hard to prove since you went on purpose to a place known for prostitution.

Cops know the “ working girls” in their area. If you are with one and cops know her, just being in car will get you pulled over and questioned. Why? You are with a known prostitute and the cops don’t know if you just got done or on the way to do your business. They may not arrest you but they will harass and try to embarrass you.
 

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Its an infringement on your privacy and cannot be used in court.

Not at all if a judge signed off on it. Your rights get violated every day. You are being recorded almost everywhere you go without your consent. But any and all those pictures and recording can be used against you if you are thought of committing a crime.
 

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Yes porn is legal. I wrote a very detailed post on this subject.

Also there isn’t a grey line between a gF and prostitution. When you go to an amp you are going to a known house of prostitution. Just ringing the bell shows “ intent” to solicit. Walking in and going to your room shows “ engaging “ in prostitution.

The innocent play that she got carried away cause you were so attractive and we are two consenting adults won't work either. Why? Where you went is a “ Known house if prostituion” So you playing dumb is hard to prove since you went on purpose to a place known for prostitution.

Cops know the “ working girls” in their area. If you are with one and cops know her, just being in car will get you pulled over and questioned. Why? You are with a known prostitute and the cops don’t know if you just got done or on the way to do your business. They may not arrest you but they will harass and try to embarrass you.
The spa Kraft went to was a licensed business. The city issued the license. The workers had licenses to do massage. The traffic stops were done by pretense. I would think they would all have a shot. Also, if there was no volume why would you think the DA could use it to convict? Wouldn't there be no clear exchange of money for manual gratification?
 

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Yes porn is legal. I wrote a very detailed post on this subject.

Also there isn’t a grey line between a gF and prostitution. When you go to an amp you are going to a known house of prostitution. Just ringing the bell shows “ intent” to solicit. Walking in and going to your room shows “ engaging “ in prostitution.

The innocent play that she got carried away cause you were so attractive and we are two consenting adults won't work either. Why? Where you went is a “ Known house if prostituion” So you playing dumb is hard to prove since you went on purpose to a place known for prostitution.

Cops know the “ working girls” in their area. If you are with one and cops know her, just being in car will get you pulled over and questioned. Why? You are with a known prostitute and the cops don’t know if you just got done or on the way to do your business. They may not arrest you but they will harass and try to embarrass you.
If porn is legal, I hope there are legal places and once can act in some of the productions. ..just havent found any!
How can an amp be considered as a known place of prostitution? I mean because it is listed as so on this board? reviews? It will be hard to differentiate between hand&stone and spa
 

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If porn is legal, I hope there are legal places and once can act in some of the productions. ..just havent found any!
How can an amp be considered as a known place of prostitution? I mean because it is listed as so on this board? reviews? It will be hard to differentiate between hand&stone and spa
Come on. We all know which places are legit and which will give a rub & tug, which are bj only and which will give FS.

You don’t think law inforcement has the same if not better info than we do? They go by complaints too.
 

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The spa Kraft went to was a licensed business. The city issued the license. The workers had licenses to do massage. The traffic stops were done by pretense. I would think they would all have a shot. Also, if there was no volume why would you think the DA could use it to convict? Wouldn't there be no clear exchange of money for manual gratification?
Again don’t need money to arrest. This place was being watched for months. They have video of the illegal acts. Doesn’t matter if there was sound. If Having video of illegal acts doesn’t make it a known house of prostitution I don’t know what qualifies.
 

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The spa Kraft went to was a licensed business. The city issued the license. The workers had licenses to do massage. The traffic stops were done by pretense. I would think they would all have a shot. Also, if there was no volume why would you think the DA could use it to convict? Wouldn't there be no clear exchange of money for manual gratification?

You don’t need to hear the slurping sounds of a guy getting a BJ to convict. The video is enough.

We all know what his lawyer will argue on his behalf but that doesn’t make it law.
 

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New Soliciting Prostitution Law in Florida

If you have been arrested for solicitation of prostitution in Jacksonville FL, you were likely arrested pursuant to Florida Statute Section 796.07. This is the Florida law that prohibits offering or engaging in prostitution. The current 2015 prostitution law states:
(2) It is unlawful:
(a) To own, establish, maintain, or operate any place, structure, building, or conveyance for the purpose of lewdness, assignation, or prostitution.
(b) To offer, or to offer or agree to secure, another for the purpose of prostitution or for any other lewd or indecent act.
(c) To receive, or to offer or agree to receive, any person into any place, structure, building, or conveyance for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation, or to permit any person to remain there for such purpose.
(d) To direct, take, or transport, or to offer or agree to direct, take, or transport, any person to any place, structure, or building, or to any other person, with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that the purpose of such directing, taking, or transporting is prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(e) To offer to commit, or to commit, or to engage in, prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(f) To solicit, induce, entice, or procure another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(g) To reside in, enter, or remain in, any place, structure, or building, or to enter or remain in any conveyance, for the purpose of prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.
(h) To aid, abet, or participate in any of the acts or things enumerated in this subsection.
(i) To purchase the services of any person engaged in prostitution.
A bill that has passed the Florida House of Representatives will change the prostitution law. While the new law is not going to change the portion of Section 796.07 set forth in the paragraph above, it will change another section of the law. As stands, Section 796.07(4) states:
(4) A person who violates any provision of this section commits:
(a) A misdemeanor of the second degree for a first violation, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(b) A misdemeanor of the first degree for a second violation, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(c) A felony of the third degree for a third or subsequent violation, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(5) A person who is charged with a third or subsequent violation of this section shall be offered admission to a pretrial intervention program or a substance abuse treatment program as provided in s. 948.08.
Section 796.07(4) equally applies punishment to the person offering the prostitution and the person accepting it. Basically, both the prostitute and the person paying for the service are treated the same. The proposed new law recently passed by the Florida House changes this. “People who solicit prostitutes would face increased penalties under a bill that passed the Florida House. The bill that passed unanimously Thursday, attempts to deal with prostitution by going after people who pay for sex.” (WEAR News)

Changes in FL Prostitution Law?
Without the new language in HB 465, it is a second-degree misdemeanor for a first offense where the defendant offers, solicits, or engages in prostitution or any of the activities set forth in Florida Statute Section 796.07(2). A second offense is a first-degree misdemeanor. A third offense is a third-degree felony. HB 465 would change that for the activities listed in Section 796.07(2)(f) only. This section makes it illegal “to solicit, induce, entice, or procure another to commit prostitution, lewdness, or assignation.” If a person is caught soliciting prostitution from another person, “the penalty for a first offense would increase from a second-degree misdemeanor to a first-degree misdemeanor. A second offense would be a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison. A third offense would be a second-degree felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.”
Not only does the Florida prostitution bill increase the possible punishment for soliciting prostitution, but it also places new minimum mandatory penalties and sentences on the defendant. Any one convicted under 796.07(2)(f) will be required to perform 100 hours of community service and pay for and attend an approved educational program that focuses on the negative effects of prostitution and human trafficking. If a person violates Section 796.07(2)(f) of the Florida Statutes a second or subsequent time, he or she will have to serve a mandatory 10 day jail sentence. There is an additional punishment if a vehicle is used during the commission of the crime. If a person uses his or her vehicle while soliciting prostitution, the judge may impound or immobilize the vehicle for 60 days.
 
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