Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)

[Uniquelyme]

$7,500 per month allowance??!!!!! She’s out of her mind. So stupid and entitled.

No gifts. None!

Meals - Chipotle, pizza, Greek diner, Chinese food takeout

Four hour short stay hotel

Treat them like the prostitute whores that they are. They use SA to psych themselves into believing they aren’t prostitutes, but that’s what they are

That last paragraph I can't really cosign. To me idc what they think they are. As long as I get what I want, they can think they are Queens or Princesses.

SA is time consuming, gift of gab and being able to negotiate well. You have to make them want to see you. If your agenda is for less amount then make yourself be one of the guys they are attracted to. Be it your humor or personality or your look, your style etc.

All of that equates to less amount to give. More time to spend. Also, I have brought several to my place. Ik married guys cant do that. I have one that hosts. This go round only took one to a hotel. Cause shes in Long island and I'm too far from her. SA is a goldmine, filled with landmines that consist of some scammers and some virtual Queens, platonic chicks etc.

Another key which I found out quickly is who to avoid. Anyone on over 1 year I am very hesitant to see. Sometimes too SA veteran. Also anyone with 1 pic shes not worth my time. Anyone who mentions wayyyyy too much expensive luxurious etc in their description I avoid.

Focus mainly on the suburbs babies. The ones that like the thrill of smashing for a bonus. Manhattan I've had luck lately. But typically I've avoided. Long island and New Jersey are good. Queens soso, Brooklyn I stay clear of. Bronx usually stay clear of too hood. Westchester have a few possible ones but I'm good with my one now and my gf. If I was single I would definitely take my talents to Westchester, fuck it even Rockland County.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

$7,500 per month allowance??!!!!! She’s out of her mind. So stupid and entitled.

No gifts. None!

Meals - Chipotle, pizza, Greek diner, Chinese food takeout

Four hour short stay hotel

Treat them like the prostitute whores that they are. They use SA to psych themselves into believing they aren’t prostitutes, but that’s what they are

To many guys in NY area, $7500/mo is really not that much.
Spitzer was shelling out $4k per hour.
I know he was worth $500M, but still.

Imagine a successful bond trader making $700-800K per year who is not married and doesn't want a serious girlfriend. $7500 for a super hot 21 y/o is nothing.
And there are a lot of guys like that.
Even a dorky 20 something Google super-programmer making $350-$450K/year would probably do it -- assuming he can hold a conversation.
Guys have to realize we live in an area with lots of high salary guys that can handle these requests.

 

[Uniquelyme]

To many guys in NY area, $7500/mo is really not that much.
Spitzer was shelling out $4k per hour.
I know he was worth $500M, but still.

Imagine a successful bond trader making $700-800K per year who is not married and doesn't want a serious girlfriend. $7500 for a super hot 21 y/o is nothing.
And there are a lot of guys like that.
Even a dorky 20 something Google super-programmer making $350-$450K/year would probably do it -- assuming he can hold a conversation.
Guys have to realize we live in an area with lots of high salary guys that can handle these requests.

Gotta be a super fly chick to even compete with dimes that those guys should be chasing. Leaving the 7's and 8's for us.

 

[이 회장님]

Slim is correct—many guys in the city can easily handle $7,500 a month.

These same guys are paying $20K to $30K a month to Japanese Piano Bar and Korean room salon girls. Yes it’s a lot but many of them are making very good money and they don’t want to have a relationship.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Slim is correct—many guys in the city can easily handle $7,500 a month.

These same guys are paying $20K to $30K a month to Japanese Piano Bar and Korean room salon girls. Yes it’s a lot but many of them are making very good money and they don’t want to have a relationship.

Smh I don't ever think negatively lotta those dudes got no type of swag at all.

 

[이 회장님]

Smh I don't ever think negatively lotta those dudes got no type of swag at all.

They have no swag and no social skills. lol. And many of them are married so they go to the girl’s home (which they are paying) once a week and they order food to be delivered home because the guy is afraid that he will be seen by someone. lol

 

[AutomaticSlim]

Gotta be a super fly chick to even compete with dimes that those guys should be chasing. Leaving the 7's and 8's for us.

TBH, I've seen girls at the agencies I use that were much prettier than that "Kristen" girl for which Spitzer was shelling out the $4k / hr.
For 1/10th the cost!
That was just plain idiotic.
I understand he thought he was getting 100% privacy...didn't work out so good...

 

[Anodyne672]

NYC rates differ considerably from what’s acceptable in other areas...and tend to be much higher. Where I am, the going rate is in the $300-400 ppm range in virtually every instance, with $350 the sweet spot. I could easily handle the $7500 per month, but why would I ever want to pay 500% more than the going rate?

In terms of guys who say promise and then don’t pay what was agreed or be cheap with dinners or gifts, that will work if all you want is a one-and-done experience. It will also get you blackballed on the blogs where women share info. However, many of us who use SA successfully want to have an ongoing (but no strings attached) arrangement with one or two attractive young women and those women get dozens or even hundreds of messages every week. If you want to stand a chance of having anything ongoing with them, you need to honor your commitments and be willing to spend a little. It also helps to treat them respectfully and not think of them as “prostitute whores” because they pick up on your bad attitude and look for someone who isn’t going to treat them like crap.

Some guys want the anonymous, low price AMP experience and the variety that comes from sampling different providers at different places, with the quality variations that occur. Some guys prefer the high end escort experience, with the typically younger - and more pricey - lower volume providers who give more of a GFE experience than you get in an AMP. Others prefer the connection you get in SA where you can establish an NSA long-term arrangement with someone you find attractive, who isn’t banging 10 guys a day in an AMP, and with whom you click physically, even if it is a bit more costly. It’s all just a matter of personal preference and it is not one size fits all.

 

[Driver]

Look up independent Vanessa Vega. This delusional woman advertises a sugar baby unlimited special for “just” $12k a month.

 

[Potatosack]

To many guys in NY area, $7500/mo is really not that much.
Spitzer was shelling out $4k per hour.
I know he was worth $500M, but still.

Imagine a successful bond trader making $700-800K per year who is not married and doesn't want a serious girlfriend. $7500 for a super hot 21 y/o is nothing.
And there are a lot of guys like that.
Even a dorky 20 something Google super-programmer making $350-$450K/year would probably do it -- assuming he can hold a conversation.
Guys have to realize we live in an area with lots of high salary guys that can handle these requests.

Spritzer was stupid. client #9-. he had the whore travel across state lines and he got in trouble for it, and he left a money trail. I saw him make his public apology. His wife Silda was good looking back then.

NYC $800,000 annual salary equates to $400,000 take home. $7,500 per month = $90,000. Paying $90,000 to a SB is really stupid.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

NYC $800,000 annual salary equates to $400,000 take home. $7,500 per month = $90,000. Paying $90,000 to a SB is really stupid.

Stupidity is subjective in this case.
Keep in mind many of these rich young kids here in NYC came from very wealthy families. Especially the ones that work in finance.
Many do not pay rent. Their parents buy condos as an investment and the kid lives there. So they are not paying 6 or 7K a month for rent.

All depends what is important to you.
I do "ok" financially but do not consider myself to be rich.
Your 90k of 400k is a little less than 25% net.
Although I have not had success on SA, for many, many, many years (decades even) pre pandemic I did a little MORE than 25% GROSS on escorts.
Why?
Because banging young, thin, pretty girls has always been the highest priority in my life.
I live in a small, relatively cheap apartment, drive a 16 y/o car, and wear plain clothes.
I have the $$$ to get what I want because I have no need or desire for fancy things.
I do not consider myself stupid.
You can't take it with you.
You can't bang a Porsche.
And I know that owning one, or a luxury condo, or Armani suits won't get me what I want.

 

[Anodyne672]

Stupidity is subjective in this case.
Keep in mind many of these rich young kids here in NYC came from very wealthy families. Especially the ones that work in finance.
Many do not pay rent. Their parents buy condos as an investment and the kid lives there. So they are not paying 6 or 7K a month for rent.

All depends what is important to you.
I do "ok" financially but do not consider myself to be rich.
Your 90k of 400k is a little less than 25% net.
Although I have not had success on SA, for many, many, many years (decades even) pre pandemic I did a little MORE than 25% GROSS on escorts.
Why?
Because banging young, thin, pretty girls has always been the highest priority in my life.
I live in a small, relatively cheap apartment, drive a 16 y/o car, and wear plain clothes.
I have the $$$ to get what I want because I have no need or desire for fancy things.
I do not consider myself stupid.
You can't take it with you.
You can't bang a Porsche.
And I know that owning one, or a luxury condo, or Armani suits won't get me what I want.

Exactly. And the calculations also differ for a 30-40 y/o guy who should be able to bag plenty of hot young ladies through the normal dating scene if he has any social skills, some money and looks decent vs a 50+ guy who likes his partners in their 20s or early 30s but finds his dating scene populated by women in their 40s or older, divorcees and widows.

 

[이 회장님]

Stupidity is subjective in this case.
Keep in mind many of these rich young kids here in NYC came from very wealthy families. Especially the ones that work in finance.
Many do not pay rent. Their parents buy condos as an investment and the kid lives there. So they are not paying 6 or 7K a month for rent.

All depends what is important to you.
I do "ok" financially but do not consider myself to be rich.
Your 90k of 400k is a little less than 25% net.
Although I have not had success on SA, for many, many, many years (decades even) pre pandemic I did a little MORE than 25% GROSS on escorts.
Why?
Because banging young, thin, pretty girls has always been the highest priority in my life.
I live in a small, relatively cheap apartment, drive a 16 y/o car, and wear plain clothes.
I have the $$$ to get what I want because I have no need or desire for fancy things.
I do not consider myself stupid.
You can't take it with you.
You can't bang a Porsche.
And I know that owning one, or a luxury condo, or Armani suits won't get me what I want.

Very true. These young rich kids have no major living expenses. No student loans, no mortgage, no car payment, etc so what they make is what they can use for other purposes such as women.

 

[Potatosack]

I guess if the distributions from the trust funds keep coming in what does it matter.
Im not convinced any women’s body is worth $7,500 a month but that’s my opinion.

 

[iwould789]

It's not always a question of What can I afford to pay? but rather What am I willing to pay? Everyone has different priorities I guess.

 

[Jamesfilipino28]

To many guys in NY area, $7500/mo is really not that much.
Spitzer was shelling out $4k per hour.
I know he was worth $500M, but still.

Imagine a successful bond trader making $700-800K per year who is not married and doesn't want a serious girlfriend. $7500 for a super hot 21 y/o is nothing.
And there are a lot of guys like that.
Even a dorky 20 something Google super-programmer making $350-$450K/year would probably do it -- assuming he can hold a conversation.
Guys have to realize we live in an area with lots of high salary guys that can handle these requests.

Money doesn’t always buy happiness but for $7500 it can buy me a whole lot of young Vjay jay!

 

[Jamesfilipino28]

Stupidity is subjective in this case.
Keep in mind many of these rich young kids here in NYC came from very wealthy families. Especially the ones that work in finance.
Many do not pay rent. Their parents buy condos as an investment and the kid lives there. So they are not paying 6 or 7K a month for rent.

All depends what is important to you.
I do "ok" financially but do not consider myself to be rich.
Your 90k of 400k is a little less than 25% net.
Although I have not had success on SA, for many, many, many years (decades even) pre pandemic I did a little MORE than 25% GROSS on escorts.
Why?
Because banging young, thin, pretty girls has always been the highest priority in my life.
I live in a small, relatively cheap apartment, drive a 16 y/o car, and wear plain clothes.
I have the $$$ to get what I want because I have no need or desire for fancy things.
I do not consider myself stupid.
You can't take it with you.
You can't bang a Porsche.
And I know that owning one, or a luxury condo, or Armani suits won't get me what I want.

Hey Slim, I can pick you up in my luxury car. Save on gas ⛽️

 

[이 회장님]

It’s been a while since I asked a random civvie in the street for her number. Saw a hot Latina walking towards me. It’s an intersection and it’s a red light so she stopped. I said hi and did small talk in Spanish. Got her number. She told me she’s Cuban. The yoga pants drove me insane. lol.

I told her that I visited Cuba once in 2006 and had a nice talk.

She cheered me up because I’ve been a bit depressed since my Lakers were eliminated. lol.

 

[maximus799]

Interesting thread. I've heard a lot about SA. Question for the married guys that are not swimming in money, is it a good experience? really worth it? It seems like there's a lot of time/work involved, and if you don't have the correct logistics not gonna work. I usually do a budget of $600-$800 a month for "fun", Can i get layed a few times a month on SA from a good looking young girl? or better to stick with AMPs/Escorts, ect.

I feel like this thread really went on a tangent not really useful to the topic. Like yes, the ultra rich exists, and yes, super gold diggers trying to take advantage of them will always exist as well.

To perroloco's questions, yes, if $600-800 is your budget you can certainly do it, but it will be difficult, and doing 2 meets per month may be your sweet spot. You will probably have to lower you standards, and may have to be flexible with meeting up times as well. I'd recommend going for the young college age chicks that are just looking for some extra spending cash, not the career SBs. I mainly operated in the $300-400 per meet range, was able to host at home, and my SBs were usually fine with a small, quick to-go type dinner with a glass of wine when they came over. If you have to grab a hotel room, expect to add $100-150 extra. At the end of the day, going to gfe amps will probably end up more cost-effective for you, but if its something you want to try, SA may be worth a shot for a couple months.

 

[Anodyne672]

I feel like this thread really went on a tangent not really useful to the topic. Like yes, the ultra rich exists, and yes, super gold diggers trying to take advantage of them will always exist as well.

To perroloco's questions, yes, if $600-800 is your budget you can certainly do it, but it will be difficult, and doing 2 meets per month may be your sweet spot. You will probably have to lower you standards, and may have to be flexible with meeting up times as well. I'd recommend going for the young college age chicks that are just looking for some extra spending cash, not the career SBs. I mainly operated in the $300-400 per meet range, was able to host at home, and my SBs were usually fine with a small, quick to-go type dinner with a glass of wine when they came over. If you have to grab a hotel room, expect to add $100-150 extra. At the end of the day, going to gfe amps will probably end up more cost-effective for you, but if its something you want to try, SA may be worth a shot for a couple months.

The only way a $600-800 monthly budget will get perrroloco what he wants - getting laid several times per month - is if (1) he is located in an area where the SB ppm market rate is way lower than average; (2) he or the SB can host, thus saving hotel costs; (3) the SB is interested in nothing other than a quick physical encounter; and (4) he is interested in one-and-dones, as opposed to long-term arrangements. Absent those conditions, getting laid on his budget once a month using SA is certainly possible with the right SB, but he has almost no chance of succeeding multiple times per month; hence my original reply that was posted last Tuesday.

Also, despite what you say and infer, most young college age women I have encountered on SA are not bargains “just looking for some extra spending cash.” On the contrary, they tend to have overly inflated perceptions of their worth as SBs based upon stories/blogs they see/read online and want way more than women in their mid-to-late 20s or early 30s, who seem to have a more realistic understanding of these arrangements.