What is your ultimate goal?

[chunfun]

I actively seek a friendship where we spend time together, are comfortable in each other's presence, in and out of the spa. I wouldn't call it love, but mutual respect and affection turns this from being a simple transaction to a friendship. The downside is the risk of developing real feelings, on both sides. The upside is much better sex! Nothing beats a great night of sex, followed by sleeping in close contact, and ending with an eye-opening morning session! IMHO

 

[xxxooz]

I actively seek a friendship where we spend time together, are comfortable in each other's presence, in and out of the spa. I wouldn't call it love, but mutual respect and affection turns this from being a simple transaction to a friendship. The downside is the risk of developing real feelings, on both sides. The upside is much better sex! Nothing beats a great night of sex, followed by sleeping in close contact, and ending with an eye-opening morning session! IMHO

Chun, you have perfectly described the GF experience..Kudos my friend...

 

[bigbird1]

Well while I like to be satisfied by the services that a provider provides. I also try my best to pleasure her and make it enjoyable for the two of us. I like it when a provider genuinely enjoys herself with me it makes the sex much more authentic. Otherwise if she doesn't then I avoid them.

 

[cosmo]

To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women ...

 

[Maple Garden]

To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women ...

Nice quote which I haven’t heard in a long time.

 

[kgirler]

Love always settles into a pattern of obligations, commitments with less ROI. I just want her to enjoy her professional relationship with me.

And with that, my friend, you have just encapsulated how to make a spa girl fall in love with you. Kind, aloof, and realistic.

 

[DannyG]

AMPs/providers fill a need or a void in our lives, the fact that it is an hour of pampering ending with sexual gratification slowly starts us on a path of emotional dependence, it’s an addiction, a highly addictive one at that. In a marriage first comes love, then comes sex, in AMPs, first comes sex, then comes love.

 

[Koujiao]

Why would a bunch of liars complain about someone lieing to them? the lies are important to living with yourself within the game, this is a liars game you play. Dont ask, dont tell.

 

[Mara_massage]

I’m looking for good service, some girls have the ability to show temporary love for the duration of the session, I love that

Awesome post,mutual respect and compassion are key in Life as often and as widespread as is feasible !! Great day for the beach or pool,Be well,Y'all.

 

[Mara_massage]

"All" is a very overused work.

Substitute "most" and I will agree with you.

Cool

 

[Maple Garden]

Why would a bunch of liars complain about someone lieing to them? the lies are important to living with yourself within the game, this is a liars game you play. Dont ask, dont tell.

You may have hit on the issue. No one trusts anyone. They have been lied to by many many mongers so they lie to us.

 

[Srhsrh]

You may have hit on the issue. No one trusts anyone. They have been lied to by many many mongers so they lie to us.

Yes, and that’s what I’m trying to break out of. I’m willing to be completely honest with a girl. I’ll frequent a girl who is honest with me. And I’m just looking for fun right now, none of this phony love affair stuff. Give me a cute girl, with a streak of naughty, who can stay honest during the chat part.

 

[Maple Garden]

Yes, and that’s what I’m trying to break out of. I’m willing to be completely honest with a girl. I’ll frequent a girl who is honest with me. And I’m just looking for fun right now, none of this phony love affair stuff. Give me a cute girl, with a streak of naughty, who can stay honest during the chat part.

I’ve found a few like that and it can be a bit unsettling. And, I’ve had others who have all the sudden started being honest and asking me questions. It’s strange to have one change so sudden.

 

[DannyG]

The classic story of a monger:

I am going through what is a classic midlife crisis with a bit of a twist. I'm in my early 40s and have a great wife and two great young kids, all of whom I love dearly. I've been with my wife for over 20 years. Everyone tells me how lucky I am to have the perfect marriage. But, of course, I don't feel so lucky. Instead I feel burdened, trapped by the overwhelming obligations of family and of keeping up appearances. The way I've tried to deal with these feelings is by seeing prostitutes.

About eight months ago, I met and paid for the woman of my dreams. She's beautiful, a sexual dynamo, smart, funny and sweet. She's not a typical prostitute; she's more like the girl next door who wants to get paid for her great looks and abundant sexual talents.
I soon went from being her client to being her friend and confidant. Her presence in my life does two things for me. First I get to feel those incredibly strong emotions that I haven't felt in years about my wife (lust and longing), and more important, I feel so free during the few hours a month I get to see her. Not only do we explore sexual fantasies that would be completely out of bounds with my wife, but more important, I can completely relax around her and joke around and talk frankly, and not have to worry about things like who's picking up whom from school.
Of course, I know that this whole thing is incredibly stupid and immature, but I can't figure out how to unring the bell and go back to a life without this woman. Do you think it will be possible to not see her and forget about the pleasure, love and passion that we had? I've tried for a few weeks at a time, but I've always felt the need to see her again -- the urge for release, both literally and metaphorically, was too strong. I have a hard time imagining life without her, but at the same time, she could never be a part of my "real" life -- I have too much invested in my marriage and family to break it up.

So the question boils down to this: How do I give up sexual (and emotional) nirvana for the sake of my family?

 

[RockyJ]

So the question boils down to this: How do I give up sexual (and emotional) nirvana for the sake of my family?

Keep in mind that you are paying your new "friend and confidant" to like you and make you feel special. Try not paying her once and you'll see who really loves you. It's a fantasy world and you're infatuated with this new woman. Keep your head on straight and think what your life would be without your family.

 

[kgirler]

The classic story of a monger:

I am going through what is a classic midlife crisis with a bit of a twist. I'm in my early 40s and have a great wife and two great young kids, all of whom I love dearly. I've been with my wife for over 20 years. Everyone tells me how lucky I am to have the perfect marriage. But, of course, I don't feel so lucky. Instead I feel burdened, trapped by the overwhelming obligations of family and of keeping up appearances. The way I've tried to deal with these feelings is by seeing prostitutes.

About eight months ago, I met and paid for the woman of my dreams. She's beautiful, a sexual dynamo, smart, funny and sweet. She's not a typical prostitute; she's more like the girl next door who wants to get paid for her great looks and abundant sexual talents.
I soon went from being her client to being her friend and confidant. Her presence in my life does two things for me. First I get to feel those incredibly strong emotions that I haven't felt in years about my wife (lust and longing), and more important, I feel so free during the few hours a month I get to see her. Not only do we explore sexual fantasies that would be completely out of bounds with my wife, but more important, I can completely relax around her and joke around and talk frankly, and not have to worry about things like who's picking up whom from school.
Of course, I know that this whole thing is incredibly stupid and immature, but I can't figure out how to unring the bell and go back to a life without this woman. Do you think it will be possible to not see her and forget about the pleasure, love and passion that we had? I've tried for a few weeks at a time, but I've always felt the need to see her again -- the urge for release, both literally and metaphorically, was too strong. I have a hard time imagining life without her, but at the same time, she could never be a part of my "real" life -- I have too much invested in my marriage and family to break it up.

So the question boils down to this: How do I give up sexual (and emotional) nirvana for the sake of my family?

Sounds like you can't give it up and likely won't. It also sounds like you may actually need this outlet. My advice, from many years of the same thing over and over, is to keep seeing her and not tell your wife in a fit of confessional guilt. Just enjoy the pleasure and realize that seeing her is in fact the thing actually keeping you from breaking up your family. Obviously you need this to satisfy that small corner of your life that is not satisfied. Right now you are awash in serotonin and dopamine. Your brain thinks it is falling in love. It's just chemistry. In about 18 months, you will wake up one day and realize you are growing bored with seeing the other woman and ending it will make sense and be a lot easier. If you break it off now, you will end up with a figurative scar on your heart that will never heal as you go to your grave remembering the "one that got away". In time, you will end this with very little pain, and may even find a second and then third replacement. Many of us do just that, trying to recapture again and again that wash of chemistry that makes us feel like young men. The bond between you and the other woman is mostly sexual, as much as you might think it is more. It is not a lasting thing like a 20 year marriage and kids. But it is powerful.

One of the most important things I eventually realized is that you do not need an end-game strategy for everything in life. Just enjoy it. It will play out in some unplanned manner anyway.

I believe if you give her up for what you think is the sake of your marriage, you may actually damage your relationship with your wife through resentment and your wife won't even realize why. Regret will fundamentally change you.

One piece of advice: if your wife starts to ask questions, deny, deny, deny. You will only break her heart and ruin your marriage. It's too late for truth.

This is only a mid-life crisis and it happens to a lot of good, decent men. Just enjoy it.

 

[easy2please]

Danny - Not judging you at all, as most here have been in some variation of what you're dealing with at some point. But giving up on your marriage for someone you've had an 8-month pay to play stint with is not the way to go. Be happy you can regularly spend time with a fantastic woman you are compatible with....at some point you will move on from seeing her too. Either because it has gotten stale, she is leaving the business, or your friend status has grown to the point she expects some of the real world commitments currently frustrating you in your marriage. Some folks pay hundreds of dollars an hour to sit on a couch and talk about their all their marital and life issues with a stranger. Some would rather spend that money getting horizontal with a stranger and work things out in a more physically satisfying manner. Whatever gets you through...just remember nobody rides for free

 

[DannyG]

I'm married with kids -- and in love with a prostitute

Copy and paste title on google for more.

It’s not my personal story, thanks though, it’s one I found on the internet, it has a reply in the story of how to end it.

 

[Zzzz]

Keep in mind that you are paying your new "friend and confidant" to like you and make you feel special. Try not paying her once and you'll see who really loves you. It's a fantasy world and you're infatuated with this new woman. Keep your head on straight and think what your life would be without your family.

This is shrewd advice - It's fascinating to see some of the older guys around here who struggle to keep their emotions in check and inevitably become ensnared by this lifestyle...sometimes I wonder if this ilk is more deserving of pity or a subject of ridicule.

The rules of engagement were set long before any of us entered the game, and it's clear that many just aren't cut out for this.

 

[Uniquelyme]

The classic story of a monger:

I am going through what is a classic midlife crisis with a bit of a twist. I'm in my early 40s and have a great wife and two great young kids, all of whom I love dearly. I've been with my wife for over 20 years. Everyone tells me how lucky I am to have the perfect marriage. But, of course, I don't feel so lucky. Instead I feel burdened, trapped by the overwhelming obligations of family and of keeping up appearances. The way I've tried to deal with these feelings is by seeing prostitutes.

About eight months ago, I met and paid for the woman of my dreams. She's beautiful, a sexual dynamo, smart, funny and sweet. She's not a typical prostitute; she's more like the girl next door who wants to get paid for her great looks and abundant sexual talents.
I soon went from being her client to being her friend and confidant. Her presence in my life does two things for me. First I get to feel those incredibly strong emotions that I haven't felt in years about my wife (lust and longing), and more important, I feel so free during the few hours a month I get to see her. Not only do we explore sexual fantasies that would be completely out of bounds with my wife, but more important, I can completely relax around her and joke around and talk frankly, and not have to worry about things like who's picking up whom from school.
Of course, I know that this whole thing is incredibly stupid and immature, but I can't figure out how to unring the bell and go back to a life without this woman. Do you think it will be possible to not see her and forget about the pleasure, love and passion that we had? I've tried for a few weeks at a time, but I've always felt the need to see her again -- the urge for release, both literally and metaphorically, was too strong. I have a hard time imagining life without her, but at the same time, she could never be a part of my "real" life -- I have too much invested in my marriage and family to break it up.

So the question boils down to this: How do I give up sexual (and emotional) nirvana for the sake of my family?

Keep her around. Just have fun with her and stay with your wife.

Talk to your wife tell her you want to not just talk about the kids and the same day to day. You want to talk about everything. Fuck your wife like you fuck this other Woman. Take your wife away one weekend. Make her want to fuck you. You're wayyyy to young to be having problems that mid 50yrs Olds have. Fuck both Women. Fuck em both well. When things hopefully improve with your wife you may want to to drop your new pro, or get a new one