Would/have you dated a provider?

[TGBeldin]

Only two providers I have any interest in dating.When I use term dating I ‘m alluding in seeing if they’re are as humorous outside as inside Spa.I’m not referencing in dating for marriage or sex just in seeing what’s behind a provider.

Of course I have. Why wouldn't I? They are generally good looking, smart, outgoing. The real answer: more than I can keep track of--sometimes I ask them, sometimes they ask me.

If you mean serious dating, to see if it might lead to more, then the answer would be 4 women. For different reasons they did not lead to dating/marriage, but still good friends with two of the four.

 

[TGBeldin]

No argument here. It's your money and time, and if it makes you feel good, it's worth it.
Just can't help but think you can find the same enjoyment from other women who might not be as expensive/greedy.
At least the money you're spending is not wasted on drugs/alcohol. Women are way more enjoyable!!!
Like I said, I do understand. Enjoy the fruits of your labor.

I can understand his takevery easily. it's time. I am rarely in aby city 5 days in a row. I hate pickup bars. I find the right woman or two in the cities frequent, and focus on them. We both know it will be unlikely to lead to more than periodic friendly dates with benefits.

 

[Levin79]

I’m with CCZG on this. This is review and discussion board and not a support group, yet you’ve started multiple threads about this very topic and insert it into existing threads too, whether it’s germane or not. You have many, many, many posts about a Coco wanting to be taken care of by a rich guy, and the Tarzan-loving lady too, which you alternate with constant reminders to yourself that these women being conniving monsters.

I’m genuinely confused by this, and frankly, nervous for you. That you’re this hung up and conflicted about trying to have a loving, intimate relationship based on trust, and with an opportunity to grow, with women that pork hundred of men per year and probably nothing in common with you is a sign, to me, that you’re in too deep. Like Christopher Walken at the end of Deer Hunter.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if I were you, I’d walk away from this for a while; try to meet and bang a civilian to recalibrate yourself.

Coco asked me many times to meet her

I’m with CCZG on this. This is review and discussion board and not a support group, yet you’ve started multiple threads about this very topic and insert it into existing threads too, whether it’s germane or not. You have many, many, many posts about a Coco wanting to be taken care of by a rich guy, and the Tarzan-loving lady too, which you alternate with constant reminders to yourself that these women being conniving monsters.

I’m genuinely confused by this, and frankly, nervous for you. That you’re this hung up and conflicted about trying to have a loving, intimate relationship based on trust, and with an opportunity to grow, with women that pork hundred of men per year and probably nothing in common with you is a sign, to me, that you’re in too deep. Like Christopher Walken at the end of Deer Hunter.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if I were you, I’d walk away from this for a while; try to meet and bang a civilian to recalibrate yourself.

Seems like you’re speaking for yourself and need to be honest with yourself.I have enjoyed meeting new providers and only downside for myself was hearing many providers such as Coco who you know want a rich dude.It seems to bother you that tge

ChaChaZhongGuo, *you* are my Coco!

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When I've gone on a date with a woman, regardless of her profession, I've never given her a tip afterwards.

I never feel like I owe a woman something if she spends time on a date with me. If for some reason she's not having a good time then she's free to leave.

Women do enjoy sex...and typically the more time you spend with the same woman the more enjoyable the sex is.

ChaChaZhongGuo, *you* are my Coco!

You know the Coco

When I've gone on a date with a woman, regardless of her profession, I've never given her a tip afterwards.

I never feel like I owe a woman something if she spends time on a date with me. If for some reason she's not having a good time then she's free to leave.

Women do enjoy sex...and typically the more time you spend with the same woman the more enjoyable the sex is.

Define from the woman’s point good sex.Almost every woman I have been with pro or non wants daty, fiv, caressing, hugging, lfk, dfk at top of the list not rabbit type fucking.

 

[Levin79]

I can understand his takevery easily. it's time. I am rarely in aby city 5 days in a row. I hate pickup bars. I find the right woman or two in the cities frequent, and focus on them. We both know it will be unlikely to lead to more than periodic friendly dates with benefits.

Exactly he’s already scouted the women he profoundly thinks he’ll have enjoyable day with and isn’t limited shopping the dollar menu at McDonalds.

 

[Ampme]

I've had a few relationships with independent providers.

Many of these women are lonely...so if you're fun yet respectful and show interest then a few of them will be at least be open to seeing you outside their workplace.

So are we, that's why we monger, to fill the void

 

[marauder1969]

Just can't help but think you can find the same enjoyment from other women who might not be as expensive/greedy.

I can't speak for Shibsaeggi, but for me, if the girl was asking for more money, I would likely lose interest rather quickly. The time freely given = the extra compensation freely given.

But the topic started was about dating, so I will add that if you are truly dating, the money exchange is likely still there in certain ways, but not as much as a simple transaction. I have done this before as well (married to a former provider), so if you are looking for that style of a relationship, paying a tip would certainly not fit that paradigm.

IMO, there is no right or wrong way, as long as everyone is getting their needs filled harmlessly.

 

[NYC10001]

Coco asked me many times to meet her

Seems like you’re speaking for yourself and need to be honest with yourself.I have enjoyed meeting new providers and only downside for myself was hearing many providers such as Coco who you know want a rich dude.It seems to bother you that tge

You


You know the Coco

Define from the woman’s point good sex.Almost every woman I have been with pro or non wants daty, fiv, caressing, hugging, lfk, dfk at top of the list not rabbit type fucking.

Ok, we’ll based on your comment history and it’s one over-arching theme that you re-visit constantly in the voice of a caught-by-surprise cuckold, I can clearly see how you think I’m bothered by what you write. I’ll make a trip out to both these spots, fuck these ladies, and then put in a good word for Levin79 and his inner child. I advise all other mongers to as well, and these women will eventually see the error of their ways, buddy.

 

[Levin79]

ChaChaZhongGuo, *you* are my Coco!

Ok, we’ll based on your comment history and it’s one over-arching theme that you re-visit constantly in the voice of a caught-by-surprise cuckold, I can clearly see how you think I’m bothered by what you write. I’ll make a trip out to both these spots, fuck these ladies, and then put in a good word for Levin79 and his inner child. I advise all other mongers to as well, and these women will eventually see the error of their ways, buddy.

I don’t judge anyone or speak graphically about any provider.You seem discombobulated reading my words and sucks being you.I loved the circus as a child and thanks for the memory as you’re one hilarious clown.

 

[scr500af]

I’m with CCZG on this. This is review and discussion board and not a support group, yet you’ve started multiple threads about this very topic and insert it into existing threads too, whether it’s germane or not. You have many, many, many posts about a Coco wanting to be taken care of by a rich guy, and the Tarzan-loving lady too, which you alternate with constant reminders to yourself that these women being conniving monsters.

I’m genuinely confused by this, and frankly, nervous for you. That you’re this hung up and conflicted about trying to have a loving, intimate relationship based on trust, and with an opportunity to grow, with women that pork hundred of men per year and probably nothing in common with you is a sign, to me, that you’re in too deep. Like Christopher Walken at the end of Deer Hunter.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but if I were you, I’d walk away from this for a while; try to meet and bang a civilian to recalibrate yourself.

Right. It's a character flaw that makes some of us attracted to these women. Me, I just quit a relationship with a (former) provider. Not the first time, either. I'm taking your advice and finding a civilian to recalibrate with. Hopefully she speaks Korean. Damn.

 

[TGBeldin]

"Review and discussion board." Yes, but a "support group"--which is a bit of a stretch for this thread--is a discussion, is it not?

 

[Uniquelyme]

Define from the woman’s point good sex.Almost every woman I have been with pro or non wants daty, fiv, caressing, hugging, lfk, dfk at top of the list not rabbit type fucking.[/QUOTE]

You need to warm her up. So yes lfk, dfk, fiv, most like daty, some caressing. Get them hot and horny make them want your cock. Then you can fuck em slow, deep, fast, pound em. Smack their ass, pull their hair. I fuck pros almost exactly how I fuck girlfriends and dates. Only difference is condoms always used and more caressing fucking non pros

 

[casualplayer]

I’ve dated several of them.
There is no time limit or clock watching which is good. lol.

For me, I meet them on their day off. I’ll take them out to lunch or dinner, I’ll drive them around and help them run errands, I’ll take them shopping and I’ll pay them for their time and great sex ($500 per meeting).

The Korean providers collect the money right away. lol
The Chinese providers will look at me and tell me that it is not necessary. But I kindly tell them to please accept it.

Most of them fully understand that I am not looking for a relationship. Some of them will push my limits and I will kindly remind them.

In my experience, the providers really appreciate going for a drive out of town. They want to get away from the city, relax and enjoy the moment.

You are on the money (No Pun). However - given the time you spend with them driving them and being the shopping partner 500 is ridiculous... Taking them out of their element is worth something. Dinner - you pay for and more. Sex is the trade-off in this situation. It should be mutually appreciated or worth nothing.

 

[Levin79]

You are on the money (No Pun). However - given the time you spend with them driving them and being the shopping partner 500 is ridiculous... Taking them out of their element is worth something. Dinner - you pay for and more. Sex is the trade-off in this situation. It should be mutually appreciated or worth nothing.

500 to him is like 50 bucks to others.

 

[TGBeldin]

You are on the money (No Pun). However - given the time you spend with them driving them and being the shopping partner 500 is ridiculous... Taking them out of their element is worth something. Dinner - you pay for and more. Sex is the trade-off in this situation. It should be mutually appreciated or worth nothing.

500 may be too much--or too little--depending upon who the lady is, and many other things.

There is a redheaded beauty in Kansas City who makes going to dinner and the casino with her an orgasmic level event.

 

[Maple Garden]

Been on dates with many. Been on vacation with many. It’s a real eye opener. A game changer.

Maybe the journalists that write these articles should spend time with them out of the spa. The tone and message of their articles would change dramatically.

 

[mitchxy1]

Been on dates with many. Been on vacation with many. It’s a real eye opener. A game changer.

Maybe the journalists that write these articles should spend time with them out of the spa. The tone and message of their articles would change dramatically.

I would've figured that they were just normal people.
Or are you not Asian and think that they are somehow more exotic and mysterious?
Please explain.

 

[TGBeldin]

In my case, it is exactly because I DO see them and treat them as "real women". So many of their clients do not, they treat them as something closer to a sex robot. Treat them like real people with a real mind, feelings, interests, etc., and they will often drop their protective masks and show you someone quite different.

Those are my experiences. I suspect Maple may or may not agree with me, but will reply shortly.

And i don't think it has anything to do with whether the lady or I am Asian.

 

[Shibsaeggi]

You are on the money (No Pun). However - given the time you spend with them driving them and being the shopping partner 500 is ridiculous... Taking them out of their element is worth something. Dinner - you pay for and more. Sex is the trade-off in this situation. It should be mutually appreciated or worth nothing.

Again, as I have said in this thread, I am entitled to do what I want with my time and money.

I am very happy and doing very well with my life so no one has to give me advice on what I should do.

As for your opinion in regards to this, I could care less. lol.

 

[Maple Garden]

I would've figured that they were just normal people.
Or are you not Asian and think that they are somehow more exotic and mysterious?
Please explain.

That’s exactly what I meant. They are like everyone else, pursing their dreams. They are not controlled, they are not managed, they have an incredible amount of freedom. More freedom here than they ever had because so many of life’s freedoms are intertwined with economics. I know 50+ year old retired women who are here doing massages; here they can work and earn really good money when they are in their 50’s. In China not so. They have stock portfolios, they have real estate holdings and they invest in other businesses both here and in China from the cash they bring in.

Outside of the spa, you come to know then as they really are. They are just like us, and that’s the beauty of it all. I am especially partial to the ones, who do this part time. They have a full time life out of the spa and are actively engaged in pursuing happiness. They travel and they party they eat well and they go home often to be with family and true friends. It’s a great life that this business allows them to earn enough to enjoy life to it’s fullest.

Think about it, it’s a great thing when a 50+ year old who has sacrificed and put up with so much her whole life can come to America and enter a no barrier to entry business and earn what is to her a phenomenal amount of money. The American dream. And, the fact, they are willing to work is a big plus in my book. I don’t care what they do, legit or non-legit, power to them.

 

[Maple Garden]

In my case, it is exactly because I DO see them and treat them as "real women". So many of their clients do not, they treat them as something closer to a sex robot. Treat them like real people with a real mind, feelings, interests, etc., and they will often drop their protective masks and show you someone quite different.

Those are my experiences. I suspect Maple may or may not agree with me, but will reply shortly.

And i don't think it has anything to do with whether the lady or I am Asian.

I agree with you 100%.