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Would you ever let a guy blow you?
- Thread starter RubberDuck360
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you deserve a more informed response.
Your first sentence says quite a bit. it wasn’t a study. it was a review of the literature.
i believe you know the difference, but don’t know that you do. your idea of the meaning of gender fluidity is all wrong. Fluidity in this case is synonymous with continuum.
what I don’t understand is why you cant admit that your simplistic version of biology denies the true complexities of genetic variability and epigenetic influences on that variability.
here are a couple of more full reviews with referenced studies. Feel free to read them and perhaps understand that there are epigenetic influences, including societal, that influence one’s gender identity.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...trations,play behavior, alterations in sexual
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951011/
Your first sentence says quite a bit. it wasn’t a study. it was a review of the literature.
i believe you know the difference, but don’t know that you do. your idea of the meaning of gender fluidity is all wrong. Fluidity in this case is synonymous with continuum.
what I don’t understand is why you cant admit that your simplistic version of biology denies the true complexities of genetic variability and epigenetic influences on that variability.
here are a couple of more full reviews with referenced studies. Feel free to read them and perhaps understand that there are epigenetic influences, including societal, that influence one’s gender identity.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...trations,play behavior, alterations in sexual
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951011/
i don’t deny that people can have more masculine or feminine traits. That doesn’t make a man a woman or a woman a man as a matter of biological reality,
The “studies” you post even confirm this. Maybe one boy likes dolls. Maybe another likes action figures. Either way it’s a male human. This rush to mutilate genitalia and give puberty blockers is disgusting. We all know what’s really going on here. This is big business for doctors!
The “studies” you post even confirm this. Maybe one boy likes dolls. Maybe another likes action figures. Either way it’s a male human. This rush to mutilate genitalia and give puberty blockers is disgusting. We all know what’s really going on here. This is big business for doctors!
I don't see anyone denying the biological reality of sex. But do you not, in your head, think of yourself as a man? Is the only reason you think that because you have a penis between your legs? If, god forbid, your penis were to be removed, would you stop thinking you're a man? Or is it that there is something separate from what's between your legs that makes you think yourself a man?
Noone it rushing to mutilate any genitalia. It's something that most people recognize the ethical concerns with it, and it's incredibly rare at all, but especially when it comes to minors.
The "big business" is in the fear mongering by politicians.
Noone it rushing to mutilate any genitalia. It's something that most people recognize the ethical concerns with it, and it's incredibly rare at all, but especially when it comes to minors.
The "big business" is in the fear mongering by politicians.
I saw this thread come up as refreshed and had hoped it would go away quickly. It is now an entirely different thread and some of the commentary makes me want to chime in on both sides.
Cant Believe I'm going to comment on this but I actually agree w that last part about the surgery numbers being overblown...
The cases where gender reassignment surgery happen are extremely rare and it is used as a talking point by conservatives and blown out of proportion ( btw Im a conservative)... however in my opinion it should be banned until the individual is old enough to drink. Not even 18..... 21 is what I think. I am supporting your statement but the issue here is that if the LBGTQ community w just stfu and live their lives like the rest of us..... problem solved. The issues occur when some flaming queer dudes in thongs want to flaunt their shit in front of children. When a smoking hot woman walks down a public beach in most of the USA wearing a micro bikini , she gets the same response. ... do that somewhere else. In some places it's more acceptable. Let's say Miami for instance. However the bottom line is we all need to keep our sexually explicit behavior and expression to ourselves, or kept behind closed doors...
This whole pride bullshit is nothing more than the LBGTQ community trying to shove it up everyone's ass ( haha) because they were ostracized for so long and afraid of being attacked for who they are. Now if u even use the term "gay" to describe something completely separate from sexuality... ( hey check out my new shoes... buddy doesn't like them and says those shoes are so gay) call the PC police and file harassment charges.
Dave Chapelle said it better than anyone. He said the LBGTQ community needs to take their winnings off the table and go home. Because if they don't, they are going to "crap out"... and he is 100% correct. Keep going to kids schools and putting on drag shows sponsored by gay and lebian teachers w purple blue and pink hair, who tell the parents it just a lesson on diversity when some big fat sloppy queen is swinging his wrinkly old cock around in a banana hammock in little kids faces. The lesson is look at how different we all can be and look how happy everyone is. FACT IS THAT THAT BIG FAT SLOPPY QUEEN IS NEARLY ALWAYS SEVERELY DEPRESSED AND SUICIDAL... AND FIGHTS A DAILY STRUGGLE NOT TO KILL HIMSELF/ HERSELF OR HOWEVER THE FUCK IT IDENTIFIES.. trying to teach kids that we all might be gender fluid or boys and girls is the wrong fucking message. Since this gender bullshit started, schools in the state have has something like a 20,000 % increase in kids claiming to be Trans or sexually fluid. Most don't even know wtf that means.
Cant Believe I'm going to comment on this but I actually agree w that last part about the surgery numbers being overblown...
The cases where gender reassignment surgery happen are extremely rare and it is used as a talking point by conservatives and blown out of proportion ( btw Im a conservative)... however in my opinion it should be banned until the individual is old enough to drink. Not even 18..... 21 is what I think. I am supporting your statement but the issue here is that if the LBGTQ community w just stfu and live their lives like the rest of us..... problem solved. The issues occur when some flaming queer dudes in thongs want to flaunt their shit in front of children. When a smoking hot woman walks down a public beach in most of the USA wearing a micro bikini , she gets the same response. ... do that somewhere else. In some places it's more acceptable. Let's say Miami for instance. However the bottom line is we all need to keep our sexually explicit behavior and expression to ourselves, or kept behind closed doors...
This whole pride bullshit is nothing more than the LBGTQ community trying to shove it up everyone's ass ( haha) because they were ostracized for so long and afraid of being attacked for who they are. Now if u even use the term "gay" to describe something completely separate from sexuality... ( hey check out my new shoes... buddy doesn't like them and says those shoes are so gay) call the PC police and file harassment charges.
Dave Chapelle said it better than anyone. He said the LBGTQ community needs to take their winnings off the table and go home. Because if they don't, they are going to "crap out"... and he is 100% correct. Keep going to kids schools and putting on drag shows sponsored by gay and lebian teachers w purple blue and pink hair, who tell the parents it just a lesson on diversity when some big fat sloppy queen is swinging his wrinkly old cock around in a banana hammock in little kids faces. The lesson is look at how different we all can be and look how happy everyone is. FACT IS THAT THAT BIG FAT SLOPPY QUEEN IS NEARLY ALWAYS SEVERELY DEPRESSED AND SUICIDAL... AND FIGHTS A DAILY STRUGGLE NOT TO KILL HIMSELF/ HERSELF OR HOWEVER THE FUCK IT IDENTIFIES.. trying to teach kids that we all might be gender fluid or boys and girls is the wrong fucking message. Since this gender bullshit started, schools in the state have has something like a 20,000 % increase in kids claiming to be Trans or sexually fluid. Most don't even know wtf that means.
Gender fluidity is a lot more prevalent in nature than a lot of folks know. Protandrous sequential hermaphroditism is pretty common wherein all clownfish (think Finding Nemo) are born male. In a group of males, the largest one eventually transitions and becomes female to begin the breeding process. If that female dies, then the next biggest male turns female. This kind of protandry occurs across numerous species, not just clownfish.
Also, there are populations of women in the Dominican Republic, Papua New Guinea, and Turkey where children born female start developing male genitalia at puberty. They're often identified as a "third sex" and the occurrence is so common there that it's just a recognized possibility and accepted as pretty normal. Maybe you could consider it a genetic disorder, but it just demonstrates that nature has a way of being not so black and white. Maybe what you're assigned at birth isn't necessarily so straightforward.
I, myself, am 100% sure of my own gender (M) and sexuality (straight), and have never considered sucking off another guy (or getting sucked off). That said, I must admit, I did have an experience with Jenny from Thai Silk a decade ago, where midway through the session I came to the realization that she was formerly a he. It did bother me for a bit, but honestly, I'd do her again. She was like a Thai version of Jennifer Love Hewitt in her prime. Can't pass that up.
Also, there are populations of women in the Dominican Republic, Papua New Guinea, and Turkey where children born female start developing male genitalia at puberty. They're often identified as a "third sex" and the occurrence is so common there that it's just a recognized possibility and accepted as pretty normal. Maybe you could consider it a genetic disorder, but it just demonstrates that nature has a way of being not so black and white. Maybe what you're assigned at birth isn't necessarily so straightforward.
I, myself, am 100% sure of my own gender (M) and sexuality (straight), and have never considered sucking off another guy (or getting sucked off). That said, I must admit, I did have an experience with Jenny from Thai Silk a decade ago, where midway through the session I came to the realization that she was formerly a he. It did bother me for a bit, but honestly, I'd do her again. She was like a Thai version of Jennifer Love Hewitt in her prime. Can't pass that up.
I was going to ask if the session was over immediately once you came to that realization (it would be in my case). However, if you'd do it again, then I guess the answer is NO.
One of the many reasons why Thailand is no longer near the top of travel destinations on my bucket list. Even the stories of guys meeting REAL Thai girls involve them relentlessly trying to scam the guy. If I ever went there, I'd just be too paranoid to partake. So all that's left is great beaches, but those can be found other places too and much closer to home.
One of the many reasons why Thailand is no longer near the top of travel destinations on my bucket list. Even the stories of guys meeting REAL Thai girls involve them relentlessly trying to scam the guy. If I ever went there, I'd just be too paranoid to partake. So all that's left is great beaches, but those can be found other places too and much closer to home.
Given that Jenny was post-op, I wasn't necessarily 100% sure. Fucking her pussy didn't feel bad, but also didn't feel quite right. I'm not generally into FIV, so didn't "investigate further". Based on my lack of information, I didn't want to ruin the session with accusations (false or not). Plus, Jenny was so sweet and giving, how do you broach the topic by yelling "Wait, you're a MAN!" during the session. I'm not that kind of person. So maybe by the end of the session, I was only 51% sure of my assessment.
Afterwards, had a private word with the MMS. If you know Rhee, she was the epitome of customer service. When I asked her about the possibility of Jenny being post-op, she was surprised. She stated that the thought had crossed her mind before, but she plainly stated that she could never bring herself to ask her directly. So, the admission that Rhee had considered the possibility raised my confidence level to maybe 80%. Honestly, Jenny was smoking hot by my standards, and besides the strange feeling during fucking, you'd NEVER be able to assume she was born male from her outward appearance. Yes, the tits were definitely manmade (but whose aren't these days?), no scars anywhere, the voice was feminine, no adam's apple, personality was all giggles and coy. Absolutely everything screamed hot af, perfectly proportioned, and beautiful female.... except the feeling of that pussy. I would contend that no one could "pass" as cleanly as Jenny.
I don't regret continuing the session, and admit that I quite enjoyed it. Would I actively seek out a trans person in the future? Definitely not, but I don't hold it against folks who do.
(I heard from a colleague at Thai Silk that Jenny finished her degree in Marketing and is out of the biz and working a legit job. Good for her.)
Afterwards, had a private word with the MMS. If you know Rhee, she was the epitome of customer service. When I asked her about the possibility of Jenny being post-op, she was surprised. She stated that the thought had crossed her mind before, but she plainly stated that she could never bring herself to ask her directly. So, the admission that Rhee had considered the possibility raised my confidence level to maybe 80%. Honestly, Jenny was smoking hot by my standards, and besides the strange feeling during fucking, you'd NEVER be able to assume she was born male from her outward appearance. Yes, the tits were definitely manmade (but whose aren't these days?), no scars anywhere, the voice was feminine, no adam's apple, personality was all giggles and coy. Absolutely everything screamed hot af, perfectly proportioned, and beautiful female.... except the feeling of that pussy. I would contend that no one could "pass" as cleanly as Jenny.
I don't regret continuing the session, and admit that I quite enjoyed it. Would I actively seek out a trans person in the future? Definitely not, but I don't hold it against folks who do.
(I heard from a colleague at Thai Silk that Jenny finished her degree in Marketing and is out of the biz and working a legit job. Good for her.)
Hearing stories like this make me want to stay the fuck away from Thailand. The whole "lady boy" thing just creeps me out. The stress of having to figure out if the provider is a real girl or a manufactured one is just too much hassle/stress for me. If I was in the situation you described, I'd like to think I'd just feign sudden illness (not far from the truth) and get-the-fuck-out as tactfully as possible. I would not make a scene or act outraged as I'd blame myself for getting fooled. But continuing would be be an option. The more important goal would be never to get in such a situation in the first place which, again, is why I'd avoid Thailand.
If a similar thing happened in the US, I would be outraged and demand my $$ back (and then some).
If a similar thing happened in the US, I would be outraged and demand my $$ back (and then some).
we agree. Your biological sex is for the most part binary for humans.
and sexual preference and identity doesn’t always follow anatomical traits, and as I understand it, the mismatch / disconnect occurs for before you are born. this is not new, what is new is how manipulative both parties have become On this issue.
and sexual preference and identity doesn’t always follow anatomical traits, and as I understand it, the mismatch / disconnect occurs for before you are born. this is not new, what is new is how manipulative both parties have become On this issue.
I disagree with part of yiur comment ... The biological irregularity that makes men physically attracted to other men and same for women occurs before birth. I agree. However you lumped the identity bullshit into that as well. The identity bullshit is brand new. Many conservatives call it mental illness. For the 1 percent of people who want and need to actually live as a person of another gender, that too occurs in the earliest stages of human development in the womb, but all of the other bullshit gender identity stuff is pure bullshit. I would not even call it mental illness. Its people who haven't been loved enough desperately seeking attention, or people who have been shunned by society for being somewhat odd or different, looking to put on a mask and costume during the day so as to hide who and what they really are... the continue adherence to that identity change in my opinion can lead to serious mental illness if the person begins to believe it.