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Would you ever let a guy blow you?
- Thread starter RubberDuck360
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I wonder, if this scenario did happen, and you DID get hard, would you go hang yourself or something? Remember in American Beauty the Marine dad thinks his kid is a gay with the neighbor dude (ironically played by an actual gay dude lol), then must have some gay thing go off in his head, and he goes over there to try to get the neighbor dude to do gay stuff with him. Then, we don't know exactly what happens, is the point of the film, but is implied in a strong way that the Marine dad murdered the neighbor dude. Did he do it because the dude rejected him? Did he do it because he got a little chubby in his BVDs? Did he do it because baby jesus told him to do it? Who knows? But I hear this same line from dudes who insist that they would or could never get hard in any gay scenario, and I am curious what might happen if they did. First time I got hard wrestling my pal Matt in fifth grade I didn't resist it or puke or hang myself. Because I'm a free natural human being and I do whatever I want to do, I don't give a fuck about whatever anyone else thinks is "right" or "manly".
In my book, anyone does anything they like in sexual way, it has nothing to do with me and I am in control of what I do or don't do and that's that. If a dude eyes me up, ok, he hasn't yet fucked my butthole so I'm still ok, and if he tries to rope me, I do what I'd do anytime I'm being assaulted, murder that person, has nothing to do mit gay or no gay or whatever, I just don't want to be touched in a way I haven't asked for. But looked at? Or smiled at? That's sociopathic behavior or mentality to say that someone has crossed some major line to just look at someone else lustfully. I have employees who are fucking hot as fuck, but is a strict rule I have in myself that I don't fuck employees, period. Now, one who left us two summers ago, when she reminded me that she is licensed in massage and she knows I love massage, of course I took her new shop's business card and I did go and I did let her swallow my cum, and I have gone back twenty times too.
One of my five children is a gay, and she is super happy with her girlfriend and they are successful and smile every time I see them. They lick pussies, doesn't affect me. Ok I know one of my five children will no give me genetic grandchildren, but is just as possible that any of the three who are deployed could be killed today god forbid and then would be same result for me, no grandchildren. But that she might have fingers that might smell a little fishy, I don't rage in my garage thinking about how I might convert her or disown her. My sister is a gay, and she is an executive with the company that likely is the largest shareholder of your company and probably runs some part of your retirement fund. She's happy too, despite that she also is afflicted with the same "disease" I and many of us mongers have, we are "rolling stones", we don't like to settle on one pussy to lick forever, so she's single despite being 50. Her girlfriends though, all cute and all the time they are happy, and this is all we can think about in the universe for ourselves and people we might care about.
My own life is plenty for me and I don't need to be angry over someone else's choices they have to live with which don't affect me. If my gay daughter had instead gotten pregnant by some cityfolk piece of shit who left her with a trick baby, then this IS actually my problem which affects me, and I can interfere or rage or destroy all the drywall in my basement if I like.
But if one of my sons tells me he likes to suck dicks, again, not really my problem. If he started wearing dresses and coloring his hair pink and doing some other bullshit which resulted in him not being a productive successful person, which then resulted in me in some way having to support him, then again that becomes my problem and I will completely disown him.
I told all my kids this their entire childhoods: you are your own person, a free natural human being, you don't belong to me, you don't belong to President Bush (he was president when they were small and teens), you don't belong to baby jesus, you don't belong to anyone, and so you make all your own choices. But also they were instructed that, despite certain government types and their enablers' wishes, there is no safety net, and when they show up to a job interview dressed as a princess or have a face tattoo or whatever thing everyone knows is stupid to do at an interview, and they don't get job, I am no there for them in any way. Life is choices and we all live with them, period.
Again, besides the conditioning of the culture, am no sure how anyone would know if it was a man or a woman on the other side of a gloryhole. I mean ok if there's a mustache, or the dude was like "hey boy you lookin mighty cute in them jeans", but otherwise, mouth is designed same way and some chicks and some dudes are either excellent or no excellent at sucking a dick so not sure how one might know. And then in last, if you claim you "can't get hard" while doing some gay shit, if you can't SEE the dude, at the gloryhole, and he sucked you off and you came down his throat, then he said in a deep linebackers' voice "hey thanks dude", would you jump in front of a bus?
In my book, anyone does anything they like in sexual way, it has nothing to do with me and I am in control of what I do or don't do and that's that. If a dude eyes me up, ok, he hasn't yet fucked my butthole so I'm still ok, and if he tries to rope me, I do what I'd do anytime I'm being assaulted, murder that person, has nothing to do mit gay or no gay or whatever, I just don't want to be touched in a way I haven't asked for. But looked at? Or smiled at? That's sociopathic behavior or mentality to say that someone has crossed some major line to just look at someone else lustfully. I have employees who are fucking hot as fuck, but is a strict rule I have in myself that I don't fuck employees, period. Now, one who left us two summers ago, when she reminded me that she is licensed in massage and she knows I love massage, of course I took her new shop's business card and I did go and I did let her swallow my cum, and I have gone back twenty times too.
One of my five children is a gay, and she is super happy with her girlfriend and they are successful and smile every time I see them. They lick pussies, doesn't affect me. Ok I know one of my five children will no give me genetic grandchildren, but is just as possible that any of the three who are deployed could be killed today god forbid and then would be same result for me, no grandchildren. But that she might have fingers that might smell a little fishy, I don't rage in my garage thinking about how I might convert her or disown her. My sister is a gay, and she is an executive with the company that likely is the largest shareholder of your company and probably runs some part of your retirement fund. She's happy too, despite that she also is afflicted with the same "disease" I and many of us mongers have, we are "rolling stones", we don't like to settle on one pussy to lick forever, so she's single despite being 50. Her girlfriends though, all cute and all the time they are happy, and this is all we can think about in the universe for ourselves and people we might care about.
My own life is plenty for me and I don't need to be angry over someone else's choices they have to live with which don't affect me. If my gay daughter had instead gotten pregnant by some cityfolk piece of shit who left her with a trick baby, then this IS actually my problem which affects me, and I can interfere or rage or destroy all the drywall in my basement if I like.
But if one of my sons tells me he likes to suck dicks, again, not really my problem. If he started wearing dresses and coloring his hair pink and doing some other bullshit which resulted in him not being a productive successful person, which then resulted in me in some way having to support him, then again that becomes my problem and I will completely disown him.
I told all my kids this their entire childhoods: you are your own person, a free natural human being, you don't belong to me, you don't belong to President Bush (he was president when they were small and teens), you don't belong to baby jesus, you don't belong to anyone, and so you make all your own choices. But also they were instructed that, despite certain government types and their enablers' wishes, there is no safety net, and when they show up to a job interview dressed as a princess or have a face tattoo or whatever thing everyone knows is stupid to do at an interview, and they don't get job, I am no there for them in any way. Life is choices and we all live with them, period.
Again, besides the conditioning of the culture, am no sure how anyone would know if it was a man or a woman on the other side of a gloryhole. I mean ok if there's a mustache, or the dude was like "hey boy you lookin mighty cute in them jeans", but otherwise, mouth is designed same way and some chicks and some dudes are either excellent or no excellent at sucking a dick so not sure how one might know. And then in last, if you claim you "can't get hard" while doing some gay shit, if you can't SEE the dude, at the gloryhole, and he sucked you off and you came down his throat, then he said in a deep linebackers' voice "hey thanks dude", would you jump in front of a bus?
Lots of confusion and convoluted logic in your response, and maybe some apparent offense taken; but I'll try to explain:
Nope. I'd understand that it just means I was wrong about how important sensation might be over attraction. I'm just extremely confident because I
know how much it grosses me out. I highly doubt that I'd chew up a giant waterbug or eat a plate of shit and come to the realization that I liked that, either.
Yup. And that illustrates my point, precisely. It's the people who hate gays and/or devote their energies to bashing homosexuality and promoting anti-gay legislation who often have repressed issues of their own sexuality from which they're hiding by overcompensating. I'm supportive of LGBTQ rights and not "afraid" of anything in my own sexuality. I'm secure enough in my sexuality that if you got $200K you want to part with, we can do the experiment anytime you want and report the results right here. OK?
You're so busy trying to poke holes in my argument that you didn't even notice that I already answered this before you asked it. I already acknowledged that a mouth is a mouth and that the sensation would obviously be the same. The point is that mere "sensation" wouldn't come close to competing with my disgust that it's a dude. A totally straight guy (or a totally gay guy, probably) would never set foot into a glory hole where it's known that it could be a male or female mouth on the other side. Obviously, if you tricked me into believing that it was a hot girl in there but it was really a dude, a mouth is a mouth. The point is that knowing it's a dude would make it totally impossible for me to enjoy any "sensation."
You really might want to familiarize yourself with the definition of sociopathy before you use it in public discourse. There's nothing "sociopathic" about saying that I think it's disrepectful and rude as fuck for a guy to stare at another guy if there's no objective reason to believe that the other guy might be gay, just as I think it's rude as fuck to stare women up and down the way many men typically do in public. In all the years that I've played in men's hockey leagues, I've known that one or two guys on my various teams were gay. I didn't treat them any differently from anybody else and changed in the same dressing room without any concern. They never looked at me or interacted with me in any way that creeped me out and I gave one of them the weight training advice that he requested, because my build is sort of conspicuous out of clothes, especially for my age. What they might have thought about me or whatever outside of my presence was of no concern for me. However, had I caught either of them staring at me inappropriately, I'd have told them to knock it the fuck off, because it gives me the creeps. When I was in college, I went to a gym in upstate NY where, unbelievably, they had men and women sharing the same locker room, because work was being done on one room at a time. They had changing stalls in there, just like fitting rooms in department stores, with saloon-style swinging doors with slats that were totally open above and below. In situations like that, there's an appropriate way to conduct yourself and control your impulses to stare and there are completely inappropriate ways of conducting yourself and staring at women like a fucking creep, even if you're not actually "doing" anything physical. If I'd been staring at women on the public side of those private stalls, I'd have expected someone to say something to me about not being a fucking creep. I specifically remember how difficult it was to control my eyes when I was standing at a sink right next to a very pretty girl with a towel wrapped under her armpits. But I did, because I wasn't a fucking creep, even at 20 or 21. Same goes for gay guys "flirting" with or staring too long at guys they don't know in any environment where there's no reason to expect that any other strange guy might also be gay.
Except (maybe) for the part that you were only 10, that would be a clear indication that you're at least bisexual.
Nope. I'd understand that it just means I was wrong about how important sensation might be over attraction. I'm just extremely confident because I
know how much it grosses me out. I highly doubt that I'd chew up a giant waterbug or eat a plate of shit and come to the realization that I liked that, either.
Yup. And that illustrates my point, precisely. It's the people who hate gays and/or devote their energies to bashing homosexuality and promoting anti-gay legislation who often have repressed issues of their own sexuality from which they're hiding by overcompensating. I'm supportive of LGBTQ rights and not "afraid" of anything in my own sexuality. I'm secure enough in my sexuality that if you got $200K you want to part with, we can do the experiment anytime you want and report the results right here. OK?
You're so busy trying to poke holes in my argument that you didn't even notice that I already answered this before you asked it. I already acknowledged that a mouth is a mouth and that the sensation would obviously be the same. The point is that mere "sensation" wouldn't come close to competing with my disgust that it's a dude. A totally straight guy (or a totally gay guy, probably) would never set foot into a glory hole where it's known that it could be a male or female mouth on the other side. Obviously, if you tricked me into believing that it was a hot girl in there but it was really a dude, a mouth is a mouth. The point is that knowing it's a dude would make it totally impossible for me to enjoy any "sensation."
You really might want to familiarize yourself with the definition of sociopathy before you use it in public discourse. There's nothing "sociopathic" about saying that I think it's disrepectful and rude as fuck for a guy to stare at another guy if there's no objective reason to believe that the other guy might be gay, just as I think it's rude as fuck to stare women up and down the way many men typically do in public. In all the years that I've played in men's hockey leagues, I've known that one or two guys on my various teams were gay. I didn't treat them any differently from anybody else and changed in the same dressing room without any concern. They never looked at me or interacted with me in any way that creeped me out and I gave one of them the weight training advice that he requested, because my build is sort of conspicuous out of clothes, especially for my age. What they might have thought about me or whatever outside of my presence was of no concern for me. However, had I caught either of them staring at me inappropriately, I'd have told them to knock it the fuck off, because it gives me the creeps. When I was in college, I went to a gym in upstate NY where, unbelievably, they had men and women sharing the same locker room, because work was being done on one room at a time. They had changing stalls in there, just like fitting rooms in department stores, with saloon-style swinging doors with slats that were totally open above and below. In situations like that, there's an appropriate way to conduct yourself and control your impulses to stare and there are completely inappropriate ways of conducting yourself and staring at women like a fucking creep, even if you're not actually "doing" anything physical. If I'd been staring at women on the public side of those private stalls, I'd have expected someone to say something to me about not being a fucking creep. I specifically remember how difficult it was to control my eyes when I was standing at a sink right next to a very pretty girl with a towel wrapped under her armpits. But I did, because I wasn't a fucking creep, even at 20 or 21. Same goes for gay guys "flirting" with or staring too long at guys they don't know in any environment where there's no reason to expect that any other strange guy might also be gay.
Except (maybe) for the part that you were only 10, that would be a clear indication that you're at least bisexual.
Funny you say that. I did stand up and have her lay on her back and I made sure the light from the little lamp in there was enough so I could see clearly. I needed things to slow things down anyways or I was going to pop way too quick. But I also wanted to make sure there was no scars in case she was a post op, TS. She was 100% all woman as far as I could tell. Not hint of a scars or any kinds of mods. Even slipped a finger in and everything seemed to be in order. She just gave great head.
I remember reading a story in some men's mag about a guy that was very sure he did it with a Post Op TS. He said he was very drunk and in the moment something was off but he couldn't figure it out and then he ran into the same person a few days later and it was obvious that he did it with "Sum Ding Wong".
I remember reading a story in some men's mag about a guy that was very sure he did it with a Post Op TS. He said he was very drunk and in the moment something was off but he couldn't figure it out and then he ran into the same person a few days later and it was obvious that he did it with "Sum Ding Wong".
hah never any offense. Mostly was responding to the concept of "I couldn't slash wouldn't get hard with a dude" that a lot of guys claim, and the other claims like someone says they would disown their gay kid. I wonder when people say things like this, people say all kinds of things in absolutes, but never follow up like what would they DO if it turned out what they think is no true and their worldview collapses. People have psychic breaks over this kind of thing, and I sometimes have curiousity like how far someone might take their own internal insecurities.
And yea I am totally bi, am no even a tiny tiny bit unsure of that lol
And yea I am totally bi, am no even a tiny tiny bit unsure of that lol
All of that's fine. However, you shouldn't form such strong expectations based on talking to people who obviously must have some conflicts of their own expressed in their absolutes that you lose your ability to process what someone else might be saying (or, especially, not even notice when someone has already directly addressed one of your pre-loaded rhetorical challenges based on previous conversations or observations of others). If you recall, I also already said that I think it's insane to want to disown a kid just for being gay. I practice what I preach by not staring at women the way I wouldn't any guys staring at me.
You're either clearly upset about this thread or you're simply trolling from the comfort of your keyboard about things that you don't like.
We're all marginalized by society for patronizing prostitutes. We're not degenerates, just different. Since I started paying for it I've felt even more empathy for the LGBT community. I'd feel sad for someone who'd disown their child if they came out-I've seen it happen, and it's pretty fucked up.
Feel free to disagree.
We're all marginalized by society for patronizing prostitutes. We're not degenerates, just different. Since I started paying for it I've felt even more empathy for the LGBT community. I'd feel sad for someone who'd disown their child if they came out-I've seen it happen, and it's pretty fucked up.
Feel free to disagree.
you have a pretty clear view of the fantasy you have playing out. How long have you been working on this little scene of violent love? I am sure the ‘cork your ass’ reference is old fashioned, I am sorry we don’t have your ass corking experience in this millennium,
perhaps you will find the courage to share what you have ‘ass corked experienced’ with the modern ass corkers?
perhaps you will find the courage to share what you have ‘ass corked experienced’ with the modern ass corkers?
No idea what the fuck your problem is, but either you didn't actually bother to read Post #49 or your reading comprehension needs work, but this is what I posted before you even asked that question that you now seem to think is some kind of "challenge" for me to address directly:
And I didn't say that it was funny; I asked if you were trying to be funny. Big difference.
And I didn't say that it was funny; I asked if you were trying to be funny. Big difference.
you seem to be a bit defensive, hiding something, for certain strung too tight. The bolding of words forced me to succumb. Do you like forcing guys to succumb?
so would you, in prison? Have you been? Or in your case, how would you? would asking or demanding make a difference? were you the demanded? i have a good idea based on your bolding.
you aren’t funny. Post #49 is your confession,
what now? Do you need some lotion? Or analysis?
so would you, in prison? Have you been? Or in your case, how would you? would asking or demanding make a difference? were you the demanded? i have a good idea based on your bolding.
you aren’t funny. Post #49 is your confession,
what now? Do you need some lotion? Or analysis?
your 2nd sentence is autobiographical, so you want us to understand your complexities. That is fair. so confess. We will listen and help you. Your cloaked anger is not the way, stop your self-loathing.
you would accept a guy giving you a blowjob, or maybe give one If the timing and your idea of s future life was right. We got that.
what is your issue With yourself?
you would accept a guy giving you a blowjob, or maybe give one If the timing and your idea of s future life was right. We got that.
what is your issue With yourself?
That's what I think too, and I'm pretty sure about it. But lots of people say that out here, 100% positively sure, and are then wrong in there. It could be you, it could be me, whichever one of us, he wouldn't be the first.
I've been around some super hot guys all my life. Just like you in the gym, never once have I felt a hint of even just wondering what it might be like. Nothing, nada, zilch. (Hanging around the scenes I did in HS and college is what got me laid with girls I had no business being with, which resulted in having the confidence to get with the women I did later. It was because when it's mostly hot babes and gay dudes hanging out, 90% of success is just showing up. To this day, my advice for 17 year old kid who can't get laid is "if you're decent in sports, then sign up for ballet lessons")
I've been around some super hot guys all my life. Just like you in the gym, never once have I felt a hint of even just wondering what it might be like. Nothing, nada, zilch. (Hanging around the scenes I did in HS and college is what got me laid with girls I had no business being with, which resulted in having the confidence to get with the women I did later. It was because when it's mostly hot babes and gay dudes hanging out, 90% of success is just showing up. To this day, my advice for 17 year old kid who can't get laid is "if you're decent in sports, then sign up for ballet lessons")
I mean exactly that, that the subject is complex and nuanced. What you wrote is not incorrect. But there's a lot more detail and complexity to it.
For one thing if I wasn't so lazy I'd google it, but at least one study found women evenly distributed along your spectrum, and men bunched up a bit more around the ends.
I don't think here, this close to the bottom half of the internet, is the place I want to discuss it though.
For one thing if I wasn't so lazy I'd google it, but at least one study found women evenly distributed along your spectrum, and men bunched up a bit more around the ends.
I don't think here, this close to the bottom half of the internet, is the place I want to discuss it though.