AMP Economics

[ToddVanPoppel]

After a really good session at Garden Retreat the other day (HE only) I tipped $80 on a $100 HF and started to wonder - how much do these women make?


I'm gonna assume the average tip is $60. On occasion you'll get a cheap-ass that gives $20 but just as often I bet they get a generous drunk dropping $100. So let's just say on the average a provider at a HJ joint is doing five or six massages a day on top of what I assume is minimum wage and cash. Last time I asked Lisa how long she was working, I think it was about noon and she said she got off at ten. So that gives them, conservatively speaking

base pay $15 X 8 hours = $120
avg tip $60 X 6 massages = $360

which comes out to $480 a day and $2400 a week.
Say these women work 50 weeks per year (it's probably less) and conservatively speaking that's all cash $120k a year. That ain't bad.

Then I got to thinking about some of my favorite FS providers, but I'm not sure how the split is when it's $340 per hour. Based on nothing, I'm gonna guess they get $140 and the house gets $200. They could be going through anywhere from 4-10 dudes per day if you count 30 minute sessions but let's just round that to $800 a day.

Then we're up to $4k a week, and none of them (I think) want to be doing that 50 weeks a year, we've all seen they take vacations at the most inopportune times, but either way that's around $200k in cash.

I'm not complaining, these women for the most part fucking deserve every cent of what they earn, I just hope they have some systems in place to keep all that cash safe and clean.

And there's your daily non-horny post.

 

[Smokenchoke]

I have no idea about those numbers. I am associated with a provider in NJ beyond the whole service thing and she gets maybe $400K annually. But like the rest of us bills, expenses, responsibilities etc. she lives ok but far from rich. I also know an Asian provider in the city but never discussed finance with her. Although I know she has 3 kids in college at the same time.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

You got the GFE rates basically backwards. House gets 100-120 from the girls I talked to. When you see discounts what you see is a discount from the house. You will never ever see any discount from a girl's portion. And any type of refund don't expect anything over the house fee.

 

[massiveloads]

Your math is all wrong, they make way more than that.

Also have to laugh at some of these guys thinking they can take them off the market with their 150-200k annual salary? She makes that in one season of the year (FS NYC providers)

Just sit back and enjoy the show, at the end of the day they are the ones taking on thousands of customers and the mental/emotional damage it can potentially cause is far more dangerous than cash. Im just glad they are here to feed my fetished needs

 

[ToddVanPoppel]

Hell no I'm not trying to take anyone off the market. I have enough dependents as it is. Providers are my escape.

 

[이 회장님]

Generally speaking, a FS amp lady in NYC makes 10K a week. The popular ones make 15K a week.

A room salon girl makes 5K a week.

A Piano Bar girl makes 3K a week.

Customers I have seen who wifed up these women and took them off the market make at least 3 mil a year.

So massiveloads is right—You cannot take them off the market with such a small income because there’s no way these women will go down in their lifestyle for you.

 

[massiveloads]

Generally speaking, a FS amp lady in NYC makes 10K a week. The popular ones make 15K a week.

A room salon girl makes 5K a week.

A Piano Bar girl makes 3K a week.

Customers I have seen who wifed up these women and took them off the market make at least 3 mil a year.

So massiveloads is right—You cannot take them off the market with such a small income because there’s no way these women will go down in their lifestyle for you.

Had to use the translate but Chair Man Lee is seemingly well connected and well respected. Now if you'll excuse me I have to lowball some college girls on SA while I figure out which establishment to visit next

 

[spinnerboy75]

I think you guys are assuming their income is constant. There’s no girl in NYC that sees 10 guys a day for 365 days a year lol. An average of 10k a week is a stretch

 

[counterpoint]

Aren't you also forgetting that many of these women take up to week off each month when Aunt Flo visits.

 

[이 회장님]

I think you guys are assuming their income is constant. There’s no girl in NYC that sees 10 guys a day for 365 days a year lol. An average of 10k a week is a stretch

Which is why I said “Generally Speaking”.

Plenty of girls make 10K a week and good for them.

 

[이 회장님]

Aren't you also forgetting that many of these women take up to week off each month when Aunt Flo visits.

Some will work while Aunt Flo has visited by either giving HJs or shove cotton up there. And yes, some do take a few days off.

 

[massiveloads]

We can pick at the numbers all day, in general:

1. They make more than you think
2. It's more than you (99% of you that is)

 

[spinnerboy75]

Which is why I said “Generally Speaking”.

Plenty of girls make 10K a week and good for them.

Yea the indies and top 10% of girls like Onlyfans lol

 

[dbraid]

lol on the minimum wage, nice. they just get tips, no tips, no money. house fee goes to the house. the business is slower these days post-covid. figure most girls see 2-5 customers on the busy days, and only 1-2 on other days. so maybe 15 customers a week. FS they might pull in 200-400 each in tips, non-FS might be more like 80 each. then of course there's a few weeks a year where there's almost no business. $6k/week at the high end of average, $1.2k/week on the low end of average. That's $60k-$300k/year, though obviously these girls only pay a few hundred a year in taxes to try to look legal, so it's equivalent to a much better wage. Super popular FS girls might break $400k-$500k/year for a while, but they'll burn out on drugs/gambling/work or get "taken off the market". This is a working class job for most girls, pulling in $75k-$150k/yr in NYC doesn't leave a lot of room for high living. They do it because they don't have any other skills, and other jobs require them to actually work hard. 3 hours a day jerking off strangers is easier than 8 hours a day in a kitchen or cleaning homes, and pays better. (easy on the soul? that's another question.)

 

[markkennedy]

What is skip in the math is the laundering fees. If they are sending back home, they can't just send cash back; in the US there are regulations for transactions of different sizes. One girl I spend time with in off hours we chat quite a bit, and of course being an intel guy I drew out lots of infos about this topic. She said she pays almost 50% vig to send cash back home. Ones that live in the store pay HUGE fees too. I know one who pays just 5$ a day, but another who pays 500 a week, and a third who pays more than half her money to the house. They still make more than most of their customers. Add in some nasty drug habits and gambling addictions, and handbag shopping sprees, I wouldn't feel either sorry for or be jealous of their incomes.

 

[ToddVanPoppel]

lol on the minimum wage, nice. they just get tips, no tips, no money. house fee goes to the house. the business is slower these days post-covid. figure most girls see 2-5 customers on the busy days, and only 1-2 on other days. so maybe 15 customers a week. FS they might pull in 200-400 each in tips, non-FS might be more like 80 each. then of course there's a few weeks a year where there's almost no business. $6k/week at the high end of average, $1.2k/week on the low end of average. That's $60k-$300k/year, though obviously these girls only pay a few hundred a year in taxes to try to look legal, so it's equivalent to a much better wage. Super popular FS girls might break $400k-$500k/year for a while, but they'll burn out on drugs/gambling/work or get "taken off the market". This is a working class job for most girls, pulling in $75k-$150k/yr in NYC doesn't leave a lot of room for high living. They do it because they don't have any other skills, and other jobs require them to actually work hard. 3 hours a day jerking off strangers is easier than 8 hours a day in a kitchen or cleaning homes, and pays better. (easy on the soul? that's another question.)

what actually made me think about this was a few months ago at garden retreat, i was getting a massage from Mia, who was pretty chatty because it was my third of fourth time. She was upset because the house fee went up but the paychecks didn't. I took that to mean they had to get something from the spa.

Obviously all situations are different but again, that's just what made me start to wonder.

 

[richardp2918]

After a really good session at Garden Retreat the other day (HE only) I tipped $80 on a $100 HF and started to wonder - how much do these women make?


I'm gonna assume the average tip is $60. On occasion you'll get a cheap-ass that gives $20 but just as often I bet they get a generous drunk dropping $100. So let's just say on the average a provider at a HJ joint is doing five or six massages a day on top of what I assume is minimum wage and cash. Last time I asked Lisa how long she was working, I think it was about noon and she said she got off at ten. So that gives them, conservatively speaking

base pay $15 X 8 hours = $120
avg tip $60 X 6 massages = $360

which comes out to $480 a day and $2400 a week.
Say these women work 50 weeks per year (it's probably less) and conservatively speaking that's all cash $120k a year. That ain't bad.

Then I got to thinking about some of my favorite FS providers, but I'm not sure how the split is when it's $340 per hour. Based on nothing, I'm gonna guess they get $140 and the house gets $200. They could be going through anywhere from 4-10 dudes per day if you count 30 minute sessions but let's just round that to $800 a day.

Then we're up to $4k a week, and none of them (I think) want to be doing that 50 weeks a year, we've all seen they take vacations at the most inopportune times, but either way that's around $200k in cash.

I'm not complaining, these women for the most part fucking deserve every cent of what they earn, I just hope they have some systems in place to keep all that cash safe and clean.

And there's your daily non-horny post.

I know an all time favorite of the community who saved up a ton of money over 10+ years of mongering and had it all stolen. On top of that, she had some serious health issues...it was one of the most tragic sad situations I've seen. I know some girls who have some how figured out a way to keep it safe and have become successful real estate or business owners, but some of these girls don't necessarily keep it all safe and get screwed.

This particular girl had a happy ending tho, she overcame her health issues, made a bit more money, and then married a client. Very happy for her, but she's had some really rough times.

 

[spinnerboy75]

I know an all time favorite of the community who saved up a ton of money over 10+ years of mongering and had it all stolen. On top of that, she had some serious health issues...it was one of the most tragic sad situations I've seen. I know some girls who have some how figured out a way to keep it safe and have become successful real estate or business owners, but some of these girls don't necessarily keep it all safe and get screwed.

This particular girl had a happy ending tho, she overcame her health issues, made a bit more money, and then married a client. Very happy for her, but she's had some really rough times.

Same thing happened to a provider earlier this year. A “monger” stole over 5 figures from her when she wasn’t looking. Idk why some of them carry that much and leave it easy to find.

 

[thieftakergeneral]

I know an all time favorite of the community who saved up a ton of money over 10+ years of mongering and had it all stolen. On top of that, she had some serious health issues...it was one of the most tragic sad situations I've seen. I know some girls who have some how figured out a way to keep it safe and have become successful real estate or business owners, but some of these girls don't necessarily keep it all safe and get screwed.

This particular girl had a happy ending tho, she overcame her health issues, made a bit more money, and then married a client. Very happy for her, but she's had some really rough times.

Whoa. Who got that much stolen from her?

 

[BigT1962]

These woman are giving a lot of the money back. This is a syndicate owned business. Girls coming into country and going right to work means a lot of people are getting a percentage of what she brings in.