SA is time and effort. A good profile, honest, sincere, and being candid, is crucial. There are many mysterious men on there. Photos are also important, a few of them, that show how you look. They don't want to see you with your shirt off, they just want someone that's not disgusting, that appears normal, perhaps somewhat charming. And I think the majority of the 21 to 25 year old college women/women with initial jobs want one guy steady, once a week, three times a month, whatever. it's nerve racking for a young woman to come to an older guys place for the first time, they are nervous. Sure, there are pros on SA, but there are also a lot of disgusting women, ugly, fat, whatever. I get approached daily by them. If you are nice, kind, and come off as truthful, and can host, there are many diamonds in the ruff on SA. It's work, that's for sure, but I think worth the effort. Create a woman profile, fake, using a yahoo or gmail email and look at the guys for yourself, it's quite funny to see. then I can see why my profile stands out as interesting to some. Just my opinion.
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Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)
- Thread starter VJLUTZ
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Fair enough.
I absolutely did not have patience to try to "woo" girls with many messages over many days. And TBH, I most likely never will.
As far as presentation goes, as I stated earlier in the thread, I am 6'1" 175, exercise regularly, shower/shave/brush teeth every day, wear dress slacks/dress shirts/tie to work every day. Short of getting facial surgery and doing steroids, which I would never do, not much I can do in this department.
SA not for me. But I have to add that even if I were more patient and enjoyed "game", I still feel I would have to make concessions on youth and beauty. Concessions I don't have to make with escorts.
I absolutely did not have patience to try to "woo" girls with many messages over many days. And TBH, I most likely never will.
As far as presentation goes, as I stated earlier in the thread, I am 6'1" 175, exercise regularly, shower/shave/brush teeth every day, wear dress slacks/dress shirts/tie to work every day. Short of getting facial surgery and doing steroids, which I would never do, not much I can do in this department.
SA not for me. But I have to add that even if I were more patient and enjoyed "game", I still feel I would have to make concessions on youth and beauty. Concessions I don't have to make with escorts.
This sounds too much like dating. And perhaps for some it is just that but pure transactional. I suppose it's not all that different compared to hollywood stars and the people they choose too be with for money.
I prefer being friends if it be my GF or my favorite massage girl. Both I find beautiful and neither is my friend just for money.
Whatever works for you and her I say
KGM
I prefer being friends if it be my GF or my favorite massage girl. Both I find beautiful and neither is my friend just for money.
Whatever works for you and her I say
KGM
This sounds too much like dating. And perhaps for some it is just that but pure transactional. I suppose it's not all that different compared to hollywood stars and the people they choose too be with for money.
I prefer being friends if it be my GF or my favorite massage girl. Both I find beautiful and neither is my friend just for money.
Whatever works for you and her I say
KGM
I prefer being friends if it be my GF or my favorite massage girl. Both I find beautiful and neither is my friend just for money.
Whatever works for you and her I say
KGM
Great point if you don't like dating and aren't good at dating stay away from SA.
Those who are decent to good at dating and want to speed things up with a girl you find attractive and perhaps younger than you typically date. Give SA a shot.
It's never a good idea to go into something you have doubts about. If people have doubts about fucking pros they should avoid if people have doubts about SA girls don't see them, don't join.
Both will do just fine without you be it escorts or be it SA girls.
Those who are decent to good at dating and want to speed things up with a girl you find attractive and perhaps younger than you typically date. Give SA a shot.
It's never a good idea to go into something you have doubts about. If people have doubts about fucking pros they should avoid if people have doubts about SA girls don't see them, don't join.
Both will do just fine without you be it escorts or be it SA girls.
Took me a long time to convince my GF I was her man. I still hear about her ex. Her adult kids are her life as they should be. She is my good friend. And my favorite massage girl is also my good friend. Both woman are special in my life. Each gives me strength and brings joy to me. I try and do the same for them! It is my destiny
Makes no sense. Nothing’s faster than calling for a girl on my phone. In Manhattan that takes at most an hour for them to have a quality girl in my room. I’m not convinced the girls are better looking, and they certainly can’t be younger. Hell I don’t even want them under 25 anyway. One time price is probably a wash. Maybe.
It’s not a question about being good at dating. Since when is that a skill, anyway?
I don’t have time. I’d rather make more money, than waste time chatting up girls about their problems.
To each his own. I did join and I did look around yesterday. I’m not impressed over what I can get from an escort agency. If it was free, there would be a discussion.
It’s not a question about being good at dating. Since when is that a skill, anyway?
I don’t have time. I’d rather make more money, than waste time chatting up girls about their problems.
To each his own. I did join and I did look around yesterday. I’m not impressed over what I can get from an escort agency. If it was free, there would be a discussion.
You are lying to yourself if you think dating and fucking Women who are attractive isn't a skill. Especially when you take money out of the picture and just pay for dates. Not extremely expensive dates just normal dates.
Being successful on SA and not overpaying is also a skill. Some do much better than others.
Being successful on SA and not overpaying is also a skill. Some do much better than others.
Idk if you are truly understanding and if you're from Manhattan and like alp places. Let's be honest here very very rare are the amp girls under 27 in Manhattan. The SA girls I fucked were 18,24 and 21. They all were under $300 for the night after a few times seeing them.
Mostly no one is getting that with Any Amp girls in Manhattan after 3 sessions.
There are sexy girls on SA. If you didn't see any. You just see what you want then.
The only valid point I think you have is you don't have time. That's extremely valid and you'd rather make more money. I can understand and respect that. Perhaps you are extremely successful. If so good for you.
To each his own. SA isn't for everyone and that's perfectly fine.
I have found several who were as you describe, and several who were decidedly not that way.
Every one wanted to get what they could, but not always the most monitary rewards. One was interested less in money than in mentoring, advice, and introductions in her (and my) career field. Another was happy to take part of her share in home cooked meals, massages, tutoring, and a place to escape her dorm mates. Yes, I paid both, but less in money and more in other things as time went on.
Both of them were quite content with the arrangement, and seeing what happened, the first one got a far better deal than if I had paid her more and helped her less.
Every one wanted to get what they could, but not always the most monitary rewards. One was interested less in money than in mentoring, advice, and introductions in her (and my) career field. Another was happy to take part of her share in home cooked meals, massages, tutoring, and a place to escape her dorm mates. Yes, I paid both, but less in money and more in other things as time went on.
Both of them were quite content with the arrangement, and seeing what happened, the first one got a far better deal than if I had paid her more and helped her less.
Mr. Haaretz opened up a can of worms here, one that deserves its own thread. It gets to the core of why we refer to this as a "hobby". Paying for sex is purely a quid-pro-quo transaction. IMHO, referring to basic mongering a "hobby" is a stretch because it involves almost no skill, except perhaps that required to get the $$. All that is really required is showing up at the AMP with the HF+tip. Those on these boards who have no skill at mongering are easy to identify: they are the ones continuously railing about how they got "ripped off" by this or that girl.
The more experience I got AMP mongering, the more it seems that the hobby is about using your personality to get the biggest bang for the buck. That is when you use your personality to get the best experience possible at the lowest cost. To me, getting an AMP girl to fall in lust with you and fuck you with gusto+extras (inside the spa) or for free (outside the spa) is a very valuable skill. It is also a skill that translates to success in other areas, especially those that involve persuasion. To me, this is the essence of the "hobby" and what can elevate it to an art form.
SA requires even more skill than either the AMP or the escort route. For the latter options, the girls will usually take all comers, except in extreme cases, as long as you have the $$. SA requires a dance and a negotiation to get what you want. As noted many times, the selection process is far more intricate & exhausting; in many ways, its akin to dating. But, like AMPs, you can hone your skills to get more benefits for less $$. That is the best part of the game.
And its possible to make it happen for even the most jaded, money grubbing woman. An accomplished safe cracker once likened women to safes: there are easy cracks and there are hard cracks. But there are no impossible cracks.
The more experience I got AMP mongering, the more it seems that the hobby is about using your personality to get the biggest bang for the buck. That is when you use your personality to get the best experience possible at the lowest cost. To me, getting an AMP girl to fall in lust with you and fuck you with gusto+extras (inside the spa) or for free (outside the spa) is a very valuable skill. It is also a skill that translates to success in other areas, especially those that involve persuasion. To me, this is the essence of the "hobby" and what can elevate it to an art form.
SA requires even more skill than either the AMP or the escort route. For the latter options, the girls will usually take all comers, except in extreme cases, as long as you have the $$. SA requires a dance and a negotiation to get what you want. As noted many times, the selection process is far more intricate & exhausting; in many ways, its akin to dating. But, like AMPs, you can hone your skills to get more benefits for less $$. That is the best part of the game.
And its possible to make it happen for even the most jaded, money grubbing woman. An accomplished safe cracker once likened women to safes: there are easy cracks and there are hard cracks. But there are no impossible cracks.