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Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)

didi88

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Not speaking for him, but many times, it just happens. It's a comfort thing, I guess. I know we all like to claim it is strictly a transaction with a lot of acting, but sometimes the company is enjoyed.
I had an independent that got pretty popular in a short time. Saw her 3-4 times. The last time was for an hour and she invited me to stay the night in the hotel. After that, she would come to my place the night before she was going to work in the area a couple times a month. She was in it to get capital to start her business on a good foundation, so we used to discuss business, single parenting, plenty of other stuff, and do all the expected stuff too. Now, she's operating her business and off the market, and we still connect every now and then. But the financial side of the hobby relationship definitely became secondary.
That’s a nice experience with a provider and these kinds of things certainly happen, but it’s uncommon. Most providers don’t give freebies off the clock, in general
 

ASHP585

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I don't disagree that some SA women only see a small number of men. But one or three, or more, they are escorts. They are "pros" like the rest. They just use a different advertising forum, they pretend they aren't escorts, and they are usually lower volume, but they're still pros.

There's a woman in the Midwest who used to see one guy a week on a rotation of 4. Originally she hooked up with at least some of them on "dating" sites. 2K a month from each of the four guys. She's very much a pro even seeing one a week, and being at home in a board room.

Someone on AFF or SA or .... who puts a price on renting her pussy a pro just like someone on ECCIE or P411.
This is a fair point. And it's important to note, some AREN'T looking for sexual acts, and some aren't even necessarily in it to meet. One that I have met told me she is on there because a lot of guys request the norm, like pics or videos, for cash, and some request socks and underwear. To each their own. Lol.
She claims I was the 2nd guy she met on there. The first was simply a delivery. We've met twice and have a third coming, and text daily at this point, with no transaction. So again, it is what you make of it and how much effort you want to put forward to it. Who knows, maybe it's because my business revolves around sales and I am like the practice. Lol
 

TGBeldin

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Yes the SA girls could be classified as pros, since there is an exchange of sex for money. But the key is “low volume” and that’s the draw for me. Most of the ones I’ve seen are civvies and do not fuck multiple guys on a regular basis like the typical provider. And this makes for a truer GFE than the faked responses of most high volume pros
I agree with you on the low volume part. Most the women I see do not do this full time. It's supplemental money for them. A lot of teachers, grad students, waitresses, or new-age hippies born 25 yrs too late. They can afford to be more selective, and their real life job, kids, etc., keep the volume down. They might have a profile on some sight, but are not frequent posters there.

They get business more from WOM, or the old fashion way with recommendations from a concierge who gets a finder's fee. Some are a GF of a full time provider who "fill in for her" when the GF has a regular client in town, but is on her period, etc. One I saw was the younger sister of a regular of mine, and when older sis wasn't available said she could send over her younger sister instead. Younger sis only did an occasional one like that.

For some of them, especially some of the single moms, they have no regular BF and limited romantic social life so they value guys who provide some income and also treat them like a real date--which is exactly what I view it as for me as well. The extra I spend on a nice dinner or movie is usually a good investment.
 

didi88

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One of the issues with SA that’s hard to overcome is trying to hook up with hotter looking girls. They are swamped with responses from dozens of guys promising everything from fat monthly allowances to vacation trips. Because of this, it’s hard to connect with these girls since your response just becomes one more on top of the pile and they just ignore it. Even my clever message repartee often fails in this situation:(
 

driverseven

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One of the issues with SA that’s hard to overcome is trying to hook up with hotter looking girls. They are swamped with responses from dozens of guys promising everything from fat monthly allowances to vacation trips. Because of this, it’s hard to connect with these girls since your response just becomes one more on top of the pile and they just ignore it. Even my clever message repartee often fails in this situation:(
Same as it is at every party and singles bar scene. But in person, it’s easier to get a feel for whether you have a shot
 

ASHP585

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You can look at it one of two ways. Yes, the good looking girl is going to get a lot of messages. You could potentially end up in the spam folder, so to speak. The other side is, most of those guys are going to say something out of line right off the bat, OR, the basic Hey, How are you? This is a chance to show you are better then over 80% of the competition right from the jump.
It's all about perspective. Lol.
Seriously though, if you have a lot of trouble finding ANYBODY to talk to on SA, it may be the profile, but most likely, there's a deeper issue going on. Whether lack of effort, lack of game, there is something to be fixed on the users end. Yes, it will require more effort then making an appointment. And yes, YMMV dramatically based on game.
It's kind of like investing. You should diversify, but not so thin that you can't win big on any of the bets. Find a handful you're interested in, and work on those. You'll know fairly quick where it's headed. And be ready for the let down too. I got the no response last night and we were supposed to connect after she got out of work.
It's not about IF it will happen, it's about WHEN it will happen, and that is for the good and the bad on SA. Lol
 

didi88

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You can look at it one of two ways. Yes, the good looking girl is going to get a lot of messages. You could potentially end up in the spam folder, so to speak. The other side is, most of those guys are going to say something out of line right off the bat, OR, the basic Hey, How are you? This is a chance to show you are better then over 80% of the competition right from the jump.
It's all about perspective. Lol.
Seriously though, if you have a lot of trouble finding ANYBODY to talk to on SA, it may be the profile, but most likely, there's a deeper issue going on. Whether lack of effort, lack of game, there is something to be fixed on the users end. Yes, it will require more effort then making an appointment. And yes, YMMV dramatically based on game.
It's kind of like investing. You should diversify, but not so thin that you can't win big on any of the bets. Find a handful you're interested in, and work on those. You'll know fairly quick where it's headed. And be ready for the let down too. I got the no response last night and we were supposed to connect after she got out of work.
It's not about IF it will happen, it's about WHEN it will happen, and that is for the good and the bad on SA. Lol
Oh I agree this is clearly a case of YMMV when trying to connect on SA. Just have to realize that no matter how clever your message is or how much “game” you have in person, it’s still a numbers game. Your wonderful qualities are oftentimes just going to be drowned out by the sheer number of other responses she gets. Some girls get completely overwhelmed by this and just leave the site. Others just take the best offer they can find. One time a girl I met showed me the messages she got. Over 100. And yes some were just jerks asking for nude pics or BJs, but a sizable number were from “normal” guys as well. You just have to accept this as a feature of the site and move on to the next one
 

Unsure

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Yeah, well, there is always the risk of getting caught in an AMP raid too. If you're going to pay for play, there is no such thing as risk free. As did88 said, never reveal your real identity and keep a buffer. If I start talking details, I do it via text (using a GV number) not on the SA site. I have the transcript of the text session in case someone tries to "cry victim". Maybe I'm naïve, but I really don't get the sense that is what these girls are about. Anyone with common sense can filter out the scammers pretty quickly. The scammers want to milk idiots for the quick buck and are not playing the long game.[/Qi hate to sound dumb, what’s a GV number? I’ve always been afraid of joining these sites, or even giving out my cell number for texting for fear of leaving too much info hanging out there. Ideas?
 

Mara_massage

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Not hard to imagine, it comes down to what a guy values. You can trade off among time, $, looks, quality, etc. Not a single right formula fits everyone.

I agree you have to know the rule of the game, and they all vary a bit. For me, with average looks but a willingness to spoil a woman a little (not talking lots of $$) and be attentive, I get my best mileage from the professional ladies in the mid to upper mid price range. Many of them escort as a 2nd job and I've had better sex with better looking women for less cash than guys I compare notes with who go the SB route. I pay for 2 hrs, they frequently stay the night by the 2nd or 3rd visit. Not always, and some I wouldn't want to have them stay.

It is not one size fits all.
So these are all girl next door college Gals,really hot ??
 

TGBeldin

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So these are all girl next door college Gals,really hot ??
No. The range from average to good looking. Only one I would classify as a 10.

I generally don't go for students--too young given that I have been at this for a looooong time. My ideal age range is 25-45, but I will make exceptions. A few grad students, mostly teachers/office admin/free lance writers/etc. who might like their job but don't make enough at it. One used to be in med school when she was working (stopped when she graduated with her MD). A couple have better paying jobs but enjoy the excitement/attention, or in one case is just a nympho.
 

Mara_massage

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No. The range from average to good looking. Only one I would classify as a 10.

I generally don't go for students--too young given that I have been at this for a looooong time. My ideal age range is 25-45, but I will make exceptions. A few grad students, mostly teachers/office admin/free lance writers/etc. who might like their job but don't make enough at it. One used to be in med school when she was working (stopped when she graduated with her MD). A couple have better paying jobs but enjoy the excitement/attention, or in one case is just a nympho.
Thank-You !! :)
 

Mara_massage

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What percentage of these Gals actually are able to tell Their BF or GF ?? that they "hook" on the side ??
ow do You make it easy logistic wise for Your schedules to coincide ? (dumb question,I know) Thank-You,Mark
 

ASHP585

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What percentage of these Gals actually are able to tell Their BF or GF ?? that they "hook" on the side ??
ow do You make it easy logistic wise for Your schedules to coincide ? (dumb question,I know) Thank-You,Mark
The schedules aren't always easy. And while I am sure many have a relationship, who knows if they disclose everything. Not my concern. Lol

I'll say it again. Don't overthink it. If you think it could work, just try it for a month.
I had a woman I met on there invite me over earlier this week for the night and do everything except for sleep. And didn't cost a dime. Yeah, a lot more effort then the massage appointment, but a lot less money and service that you just can't find in an AMP. Lol
 

VJLUTZ

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What percentage of these Gals actually are able to tell Their BF or GF ?? that they "hook" on the side ??
ow do You make it easy logistic wise for Your schedules to coincide ? (dumb question,I know) Thank-You,Mark
I stay away from those who admit to having an SO, especially a husband. One said she was "separated" from her husband, but still lived with him & was trying to work things out. No thanks. The last thing I want is to deal with an angry spouse, especially an armed one.

There was one who was BI, that offered to bring her GF along for more. I passed on that too. It was intriguing, but the GF was really unattractive (fat, Latino butch/dyke type).

And I agree with TG about the age range. 24 is the min for me. I've had lots of 19-22 years olds contact me, many very hot looking. But the level of immaturity/crazy you likely have to deal with is not worth it. Plus, I don't want to have to check ID.
 
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