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So Much For Human Trafficking

Bigtex87

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Mike you are so full of shit. I have been to a couple of cantinas in Telephone Rd near Hobby Airport and can tell you no one is being trafficked. I have been to ALL of the Korean bars on Telephone Rd and I can tell you I have seen no evidence of trafficking, just people that want to make money. The police can do what ever they want, especially in Houston. This is clearly evidence by the fact that they got a warrant to do a raid on a house with a fictious investigation. They wound up killing the couple that lived there. So, what you are saying is that the cops are in on it because if they know that sex slaver is going on, they have to be a part of it. They are getting their cut of the pie. I don’t buy it. Cops are lazy but they are not stupid…...they are also corrupt so they are allowing this.

Remove the criminal penalties for prostitution and if a woman or a girl, or a boy for that matter, is being forced to peddle their bodies then they can go to the police without fear. A customer, or as you assholes like to say “Johns” see this can they can go to the cops without fear. You people never really evidence sex slavery or trafficking beyond the teenage runway who fall under the influence of a pimp. Then you send them back to the environment they left…where there uncle was fucking them. Open your eyes.
I seen Chinese women promissed only massage and handjob work but when they get to America forced into Full Service after they are broken in....they just become a prostitute with no quarrels. Because they already been fucked a few hundred times. The mamasan holds their passports. And promises to release the passport after the shift is over. Some of them do. Some of them do not.
 

BillaBong

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I seen Chinese women promissed only massage and handjob work but when they get to America forced into Full Service after they are broken in....they just become a prostitute with no quarrels. Because they already been fucked a few hundred times. The mamasan holds their passports. And promises to release the passport after the shift is over. Some of them do. Some of them do not.
If above is true, why should not having an asian passport force anyone to do anything? They would become out of status aliens.. but still escape anything against their will.
 

TGBeldin

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Among other things, no ID, hard to go home to see family, can't leave work environment to get a hotel, rent a car, fly home on their terms, etc.

It is a way their pimps/traffickers try to make it as difficult as possible to leave. Minimal if any English, no ID, no real money, in a place they don't know, and no one they trust. Certainly not LE. Imagine how you would function. It's a hell of a lot harder than most people think.
 

Plat122

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I seen Chinese women promissed only massage and handjob work but when they get to America forced into Full Service after they are broken in....they just become a prostitute with no quarrels. Because they already been fucked a few hundred times. The mamasan holds their passports. And promises to release the passport after the shift is over. Some of them do. Some of them do not.
I don't doubt you but I am curious as to how you learned the boss lady keeps their passport until their sifts are over. How did this come up in conversation?
 

TGBeldin

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No clue about Tex's answer, but I was peripherally involved in some federal LE work years ago going after some serious bad guys. There were confiscated passports, women locked in cells and kept forcably adicted, drug running, and women who just disappeared and presumed dead.

Made some good contacts at that time who moved up a ways in various agencies. No details any more, but they confirm such things still go on, though they get frustrated at the Progressives and Thumpers who they feel do at least as much harm as good to taking down the real scum.
 

kgmspa

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Suffice it to say that exploitation of people exists yes even in America!

Every woman I have ever had the pleasure of massage in AMPs ever expressed they did not have freedom!

Not once! Ever! Money is Freedom!

KGM
 

Plat122

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No clue about Tex's answer, but I was peripherally involved in some federal LE work years ago going after some serious bad guys. There were confiscated passports, women locked in cells and kept forcably adicted, drug running, and women who just disappeared and presumed dead.

Made some good contacts at that time who moved up a ways in various agencies. No details any more, but they confirm such things still go on, though they get frustrated at the Progressives and Thumpers who they feel do at least as much harm as good to taking down the real scum.
So, you are a cop or a former cop, please help me with their mindset.

There was a woman named Vera who pretty much sucked off everyone in Newark NJ. I have no idea what your experiences are but if you got a blow job from her it would be the best you ever had or one of the best. She was a straight up junkie. If I followed her around and could listen to all of her conversations, I would know who she was fucking and sucking. I would also know who she buys her shit from. If I could follow that person, I would eventually find out who supplies him/her. I would also see his/her financial records to what ever point they stop doing things in cash. I should be able to move it up the line to a point where the information stops. The I could then arrest everyone and pressure them until someone flips and I get more info. Our boys in Florida didn’t seem to do this. They went for the low hanging fruit. Why on earth would they do this?

This is true, Vera was/is a real person. All the Brazilian bartenders had a name for her for her which translated into $20, which means for a Jackson she would do everything. She got caught up in something, and I think it had nothing to do with prostitution or drugs, but I hear she lied to a judge and got deported back to Portugal. Now you have a bunch of guys in Down Neck Newark with blue balls.
 

TGBeldin

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Not a cop, nor a former one. I used to provide some specialized services to some gov't agencies. The people I knew/know worked with LE on some efforts but did not always see things the same as LE because they had different interests that were sometimes parallel. My clients tended to think more as you describe, and often did not understand why local LE would often settle for reeling in the little fish.

PS Lieing to a judge is right up there with killing a cop/FBI. Not a very smart move.
 

Dc46

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So, you are a cop or a former cop, please help me with their mindset.

There was a woman named Vera who pretty much sucked off everyone in Newark NJ. I have no idea what your experiences are but if you got a blow job from her it would be the best you ever had or one of the best. She was a straight up junkie. If I followed her around and could listen to all of her conversations, I would know who she was fucking and sucking. I would also know who she buys her shit from. If I could follow that person, I would eventually find out who supplies him/her. I would also see his/her financial records to what ever point they stop doing things in cash. I should be able to move it up the line to a point where the information stops. The I could then arrest everyone and pressure them until someone flips and I get more info. Our boys in Florida didn’t seem to do this. They went for the low hanging fruit. Why on earth would they do this?.

Why does anyone in any profession go for low hanging fruit? It’s easy, takes no effort, makes you look good to higher ups etc.

If the cops followed her and went up the illegal chain. They would eventually have to get all suited up in jackets, guns & swat. There would be a gun fight. Someone might get shot or worse. Remember that ALL cops at the end of the day, just want to go home to their families.
 

Plat122

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Why does anyone in any profession go for low hanging fruit? It’s easy, takes no effort, makes you look good to higher ups etc.

If the cops followed her and went up the illegal chain. They would eventually have to get all suited up in jackets, guns & swat. There would be a gun fight. Someone might get shot or worse. Remember that ALL cops at the end of the day, just want to go home to their families.
 

Plat122

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My God, so what you are saying is that the police kept these women under surveillance for months knowing there was no human trafficking because they had nothing better to do? Then they set up cameras and let as many customers go through the spa as possible for a publicity stunt? All for a lot of low-level misdemeanors and felonies, noting that the felonies were a stretch using a trick of the law. All this just to get some press time? I am truly shocked and flabbergasted.
 

hockey10

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Not a cop, nor a former one. I used to provide some specialized services to some gov't agencies. The people I knew/know worked with LE on some efforts but did not always see things the same as LE because they had different interests that were sometimes parallel. My clients tended to think more as you describe, and often did not understand why local LE would often settle for reeling in the little fish.

PS Lieing to a judge is right up there with killing a cop/FBI. Not a very smart move.
Sometimes you go as high as you can, and then arrest the ones you can convict. Doesn't mean they don't know the bigger fish. Just means they probably need to squeeze the little guy harder to get more info.
 

Koujiao

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Among other things, no ID, hard to go home to see family, can't leave work environment to get a hotel, rent a car, fly home on their terms, etc.

It is a way their pimps/traffickers try to make it as difficult as possible to leave. Minimal if any English, no ID, no real money, in a place they don't know, and no one they trust. Certainly not LE. Imagine how you would function. It's a hell of a lot harder than most people think.
For women from china, it is not uncommon for their employer to hold them 'captive' by holding their papers. Suppression and subjugation. And of course, the history in china is one where women who come from the field often ending up as the "little three' in the relationship with their employer. They are escaping this as china evolves, but the old guard insists on their continued privilege over women.
 

Nottarobot

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And how much do you know about females? Are you saying all these women are coerced into doing what they do?

Some of us actually talk to these women. Have you tried doing that? The ones I know all do it of their own free will. Most DO claim to want to do something else. But they keep coming back. Why? Answer: the relatively easy $$ for the amount of work involved, especially compared with their other vocational choices in this country. A spa girl (with non-existent English language skills) can make with a single customer what she'd make busting her ass in a restaurant all day. They spend a lot of their day sleeping, putting on make-up, watching movies and texting with their friends. The average spa girl probably makes 2-3X more than the average American worker after taxes (many of which hate their jobs too). I know very successful once who make upwards of $300K tax free. The smarter among them open their own spas. Bottom line: these women are making a choice. And its a rational choice. That's why I don't shed too many tears for their plight.

Beyond that, most women use sex in some way, shape or form to get what they want. That is something men can't do for the most part. Their looks and pussy are just weapons in their quiver.
In Vietnam in ‘66, girls from town were employed in our Mess Tent and made $0.18/hr. The highest paid one worked in the dining room and she made $0.24/hr. Bar girls downtown made $5.00 a trick. It just made sense. Times do not change..
 

Dc46

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Why do Americans assume passports are taken away as a means of force or to hold captive?

Have you ever travelled abroad? When you check into a hotel they ask for your passport.

Europeans passports are much more important as traveling through countries is like traveling through states here. Went to Belgium and when I was there, I travelled (drove) to Germany, Amsterdam, Paris.
 

easy2please

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How many of us are really free? The govt watches our every move, the Federal Reserve encourages us to become debt slaves. Many of us work soul crushing jobs, living pay check to paycheck, which slowly rob us of our humanity/dignity. Retirement is a pipe dream, likely to consist of only the brief moment between when your heart gives out and when you hit the floor. Sure, we the have the freedom to starve, the freedom to become homeless, etc. As Kris K said 50 years ago, 'Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose'.

Most of us were also duped into believing in the system. Work hard and succeed, the American Dream....sound familiar. Lots of folks are working hard, only to the benefit of elites & 1%-ers. To quote the late George Carlin, 'There's a reason they call it the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it'.
 
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