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VJLUTZ

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That my friend can be considered trafficking. The massage girls I've seen live in the city and work in the city. Not coming from out of state and working and sleeping there. Be careful fellas.
The average customer would have no idea. The only reason I know is because I've gotten to know some of the girls on a personal basis. At first they said they went somewhere else at night, but eventually admitted they slept in the shop. It has nothing to do with trafficking and everything to do with saving money. As I've said before, these girls are more like independent contractors, going from shop to shop, city to city. It's all based on where they think they can make the most money. No one is controlling them, except maybe their families.
 

njlefty

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The average customer would have no idea. The only reason I know is because I've gotten to know some of the girls on a personal basis. At first they said they went somewhere else at night, but eventually admitted they slept in the shop. It has nothing to do with trafficking and everything to do with saving money. As I've said before, these girls are more like independent contractors, going from shop to shop, city to city. It's all based on where they think they can make the most money. No one is controlling them, except maybe their families.
When I nearly got arrested at an AMP in Pennsylvania (it was raided for trafficking suspicions), the cops told me this: "If we determine that the masseuse who was in the room with you was trafficked, we're going to arrest you for trafficking. Just because you did not know she was trafficked does not mean we won't charge you with it."

A bit of an eye-opener for me, though I was not arrested and was allowed to leave the AMP.
 

Freddy

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The average customer would have no idea. The only reason I know is because I've gotten to know some of the girls on a personal basis. At first they said they went somewhere else at night, but eventually admitted they slept in the shop. It has nothing to do with trafficking and everything to do with saving money. As I've said before, these girls are more like independent contractors, going from shop to shop, city to city. It's all based on where they think they can make the most money. No one is controlling them, except maybe their families.
A r/t girl I frequent and have gotten to know well tells me she has to pay her father each month, go figure. It take it to mean she sends support money to her dad, I don't question her about it.
 

Steelhead

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If I was 77 not married I couldn’t give a shit if you keep busting me.
I'd feel the same way with the exception being, if owning an NFL franchise which is a privilege, not a right or just cause you have the money.
Even if he gets away with the episode, found not guilty of anything, he's already broken the NFL's personal conduct policy which applies to one and all with any affiliation to the NFL. Besides Goodell, the league office,.....I'm sure there are owners sick of Kraft winning and will do all they can to help Roger make up his mind, probably suggest a year suspension,.....but then again, Roger can fuck up a wet dream, who knows.
 

VJLUTZ

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When I nearly got arrested at an AMP in Pennsylvania (it was raided for trafficking suspicions), the cops told me this: "If we determine that the masseuse who was in the room with you was trafficked, we're going to arrest you for trafficking. Just because you did not know she was trafficked does not mean we won't charge you with it."

Yeah, getting charged with trafficking just for getting a massage would be a travesty of justice. But, unfortunately, prosecutors get promoted based on the number and import of the busts, not on fairness. Also, if a bust occurred, I wouldn't put it past some of these AMP girls to claim they were trafficked to save their own necks and get sympathy & help instead of a sentence. Regardless of your relationship (or tip amount), if it's them or you, then you are the one who is going down.

A r/t girl I frequent and have gotten to know well tells me she has to pay her father each month, go figure. It take it to mean she sends support money to her dad, I don't question her about it.
I know many AMP girls who are married and are the primary bread winner for their families. Their husbands send them out to work for weeks on end and do nothing. There was one heartbreaking case where a girl's husband would gamble away her $$ as soon as she brought it home. But they endure it out of a sense of family honor (which I guess trumps other virtues, like fidelity and generally not being a whore). It's definitely a different mindset than what you find in Western women. If there was any justice, their husbands would be prosecuted for trafficking or pimping.
 

VJLUTZ

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looper200

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Le installed them during health inspections. Be careful of the eye in the sky. This was a huge undercover operation involving numerous law agencies from immigration to fbi doubt if Barney Fife was included.
 

Chainedkraken

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It will not be a waste of resources if the Feds can get their hands on the $$. That is one thing that burns me about AMP girls: they pay no taxes on there income. As someone who pays more than their fair share of taxes, I've always resented that at some level.
And how exactly should they record their income? Besides there are 2 sides to every transaction - if it's income to her that means it was an expense to you ....

If getting pumped off at a spa was legal then sure I'd care about them paying taxes. Until then let's not start throwing rocks inside the glass house
 

Ripple65

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And how exactly should they record their income? Besides there are 2 sides to every transaction - if it's income to her that means it was an expense to you ....

If getting pumped off at a spa was legal then sure I'd care about them paying taxes. Until then let's not start throwing rocks inside the glass house
It's not an expense, person is using discretionary income to purchase a service
 

Uniquelyme

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And how exactly should they record their income? Besides there are 2 sides to every transaction - if it's income to her that means it was an expense to you ....

If getting pumped off at a spa was legal then sure I'd care about them paying taxes. Until then let's not start throwing rocks inside the glass house
They could open an LLC and pay taxes. Years ago this might've helped LE stay off them cause taxes are being paid. Nowadays doubtful. Might help if they didn't work at an amp. However I understand not wanting to pay taxes. However the government if they do in fact recover millions can justify the expense it cost taxpayers.
 

Chainedkraken

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They could open an LLC and pay taxes. Years ago this might've helped LE stay off them cause taxes are being paid. Nowadays doubtful. Might help if they didn't work at an amp. However I understand not wanting to pay taxes. However the government if they do in fact recover millions can justify the expense it cost taxpayers.
I'm not against paying taxes. I just think it's counterintuitive to pay taxes on illegal revenues.
 

Freddy

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I wonder what the real owners of these shops are doing about being busted, their cash flow from these shops just came to a screeching halt, will they blame the mamasan/manager/providers? it wouldn't surprise me if they felt as though mama/manager was in on it allowing cameras to be placed.
 

Waterboy

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I wonder what the real owners of these shops are doing about being busted, their cash flow from these shops just came to a screeching halt, will they blame the mamasan/manager/providers? it wouldn't surprise me if they felt as though mama/manager was in on it allowing cameras to be placed.
They might be safer in jail.
 
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