Videotaping at AMPs

[Waterboy]

Yes.

If that is the case I think nearly all the girls are "trafficked".
"Victims" maybe not.

 

[Waterboy]

If the same girl calls an UBER, can the UBER driver be pinched for trafficking?

If you give an AMP worker a ride home, it could be construed as trafficking.

So crossing state lines is not a qualifier?

 

[Freddy]

So crossing state lines is not a qualifier?

Yes crossing state lines most definitely. The thing I'm wondering now is, once LE nabbing Kraft makes mention of just one AMP site, what will be the affect? Folks that didn't know will now know, perhaps the darkness will return, for good. Get your favorite's contact before its too late and each others email while you're at it.

 

[Freddy]

Bill Belichick will come to the rescue of his beloved team owner, Bill will come up with the perfect game plan and help Kraft beat the charges.

 

[HardT]

Bill Belichick will come to the rescue of his beloved team owner, Bill will come up with the perfect game plan and help Kraft beat the charges.

Kraft is single 77 years old.The poor dudes married or have steady girlfriends are the real losers.If I was 77 not married I couldn’t give a shit if you keep busting me.

 

[Freddy]

On my next AMP visit, I will request to have the room completely dark, not so much as a night light. Only safe way to ensure not getting recorded or have my session in the bathroom. This may be the way to defeat being recorded, that is, install a toilet in every room, it's illegal to record in a bathroom, lol.

 

[Plat122]

Won't they here the moaning and groaning

 

[charliebrown]

Big Brother is watching.

 

[mikey_machine]

The knew it was Kraft because his balls were deflated....

 

[dragonheart]

Standard equipment for us mongers now ... hidden camera detectors. Anyone have/use one yet?

 

[Koondog]

A couple of thoughts:
1. The whole human trafficking angle is such BS. ALL the girls I've know have come here voluntarily. Almost all knew before they left what the job involved. It would also be easy for them to leave or call for help as they ALL have smart phones. But, of course, after they're busted, these women will recite scripted sob stories to gain sympathy and a legal slap on the wrist.
2. The Robert Kraft arrest makes me wonder if the whole sting wasn't an elaborate attempt to net him specifically. They cast a wide net because they had intel that he frequents AMPs in that area. Lots of sour grapes about the Patriots and maybe their politics. I could see it.
3. They may be sorry. Kraft has VERY deep pockets. If anyone has the resources to hire a legal team capable of suing the FL LE fucktards into oblivion, its him.

Absolutely spot on, VJ. On points 2 and 3 I have been thinking the same thing all day.

 

[mikey_machine]

Watch the Chi Mac videos on CNN or the show about the spies....where we snuck in and put a camera right over the dining room table and filmed him and his wife having dinner every night.... and we also brought in dust to spray on anything that was moved so he would not notice it was moved... but anyway he was a spy and still could not detect the camera right over his head... and we snuck in when he was out and installed it right there..almost invisible... pretty cool..he was stealing the nuclear sub drawings and sending them back to china..good show... I dont know what kind of cameras they used here but look above you haha...

 

[Uniquelyme]

The general public hears "human trafficking" and immediately gasps, "how could anyone engage in the exploitation of these poor women", we as mongers know all to well most providers aren't trafficked, I've yet to meet one. The fact that news reports are saying "these women weren't allowed to leave the spa and have to live there", again, we as mongers know the truth about this, the girls are the product, the product doesn't make money if it leaves from the shop, customers come at all hours of the day, girls have to be available at all hours too. The Catholic church ain't mad at this LE sting, kinda takes the focus off them as leading news.

The places in NYC I've been to. None of the girls I've seen live there. Most live in Flushing. So idk what shop you go to where the girls sleep there. I would avoid such a place.

 

[VJLUTZ]

The places in NYC I've been to. None of the girls I've seen live there. Most live in Flushing. So idk what shop you go to where the girls sleep there. I would avoid such a place.

In many NYC ex-burbs (including in PA), the girls come in from Flushing and stay at the shop. Why? Because its cheaper than getting a motel room every night (and an Uber ride to get there). A few girls do have cars and leave at night, but most don't.

 

[Uniquelyme]

In many NYC ex-burbs (including in PA), the girls come in from Flushing and stay at the shop. Why? Because its cheaper than getting a motel room every night (and an Uber ride to get there). A few girls do have cars and leave at night, but most don't.

That my friend can be considered trafficking. The massage girls I've seen live in the city and work in the city. Not coming from out of state and working and sleeping there. Be careful fellas.

 

[Freddy]

The places in NYC I've been to. None of the girls I've seen live there. Most live in Flushing. So idk what shop you go to where the girls sleep there. I would avoid such a place.

some spas here have girls available 24 hours a day for several days until they take a day off for obvious reasons, they have their own personal area or room with multiple beds where the girls rest or sleep until a customer comes in. I see girls sleeping on the foot massage chairs at times when its slow.

 

[just_a_ho]

In addition to the massive waste in taxpayer dollars and undeserved parading of mongers wearing the scarlet letter, the real consequence of these crusades will be many more men ending up becoming sexually frustrated and commiting serious crimes like domestic abuse and rape. If true evidence of human trafficking exists, arrest and charge the business owners. I think it does exist but is extremely rare.

 

[just_a_ho]

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if this operation was driven by Republicans, Democrats, or a mixture of both? Because I'm totally willing to vote along party lines for whichever one is NOT engaged in these sting operations, no matter what my other core values or beliefs are.

 

[Chiparlor]

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if this operation was driven by Republicans, Democrats, or a mixture of both? Because I'm totally willing to vote along party lines for whichever one is NOT engaged in these sting operations, no matter what my other core values or beliefs are.

All parties because the arrests are making investors wealthier such as Securus and other businesses in private that handle cubicle fence and anything inside the cubicle.

 

[TGBeldin]

Out of curiosity, does anybody know if this operation was driven by Republicans, Democrats, or a mixture of both? Because I'm totally willing to vote along party lines for whichever one is NOT engaged in these sting operations, no matter what my other core values or beliefs are.

In general it's both, though for different reasons.

The RW see it as a religious issue and want to shut down Sodom and Ghomora. The LW sees it as oppression of women whether ornot they are actually oppressed.