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Videotaping at AMPs

Dc46

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They need the provider to identify you.You can say “I rang bell and left”.These places seeming were fast houses.They need film of you having a orgasm or your DNA.Deny, deny.
This couldn’t be more false.

Just by ringing the belll you show intent. How? Because you are ringing the bell of a known “fast house” or a known place of prostitution. Walking inside would show intent to solicit prostitution. By going in the room you are knowingly engaging with a prostitute. Then they have you on all sorts of things. Cops only need a specific dollar amount for a specific sex act to arrest you. I am sure if they have video in the room they have video of you going to your wallet or leaving money on table. You do not physically need to hand her the money.

Completely false they need your DNA or your O face.
 

njlefty

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Most mongers think erroneously if a provider is over 18 not be trafficked.The Asian mafia is making millions running women all over America and sadly many are trafficked.
About ten years ago, the State of Pennsylvania and the Feds moved against a number of AMPs operating just outside of the Philadelphia. They shut them all down quickly. I don't know if trafficking was taking place, maybe, but one thing that the State and Feds picked up on: women being shuttled in vans among the places. Once they knew that, they moved in very fast.
 

Uniquelyme

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About ten years ago, the State of Pennsylvania and the Feds moved against a number of AMPs operating just outside of the Philadelphia. They shut them all down quickly. I don't know if trafficking was taking place, maybe, but one thing that the State and Feds picked up on: women being shuttled in vans among the places. Once they knew that, they moved in very fast.
What I do know is that in Manhattan at least the girls at the places I've been to none of them sleep at the place. Many of them go to work via the train a few uber. I've driven some home. Their Wechat shows them out and about partying taking days off.
 

Thumper

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There are apps that claim they can detect hidden video cameras. I tried a few, and they seemed to always detect something, usually around the radios. But these people don't really speak English well enough to answer questions like that.

Anyone else tried any of these apps?
 

Thumper

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Also, with regards to the LE setting up cameras.

They probably aren't speaking to the lease holders directly. The police will typically reach out to the property owner, and threaten them with being liable for the illegal activity that is being conducted there.

MMS most likely had no clue the cameras were even there.
 

Dc46

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If this camera placement is ultimately upheld as constitutionally compliant.... yikes.

Video and face recognition is used everyday. You just aren’t Aware of it. People at the super bowl were under video surveillance with facial recognition. Tokyo for the Olympics will be using facial recognition software. This is used in public. Not just in a private building in a separate room. So to me it’s clear you don’t need to give your permission to e videoed since you are probably being videoed everyday.
 

Thumper

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I think people mistake human trafficking with younger women, with regards to massage parlors. However, like the articles on this bust say, these women come to America with the understanding that they will have a job, which they must work at until their debt is paid to the person that got them the visa (aka the human trafficker).

I know this isn't always the case, but I for one don't know shit about my provider's personal lives.


The thrust of this seems to be human trafficking- and I may be naive, but i conceive the concpet of human trafficking to relate someone in servitude against their will as opposed to a willing participant, working their way through college or whatever. In that context, this kind police action is understandable. I would never want to engage a person forced into sexual servitude, if that was indeed the case here. As for camera's and turn yourself in, I'd wait it out if that were me. I would admit to nothing other paying for massage he rest was tand t This should be a legalized transaction between two willing adults. This really incredible.

The thrust of this seems to be human trafficking- and I may be naive, but i conceive the concept of human trafficking to relate someone in forced servitude,i.e., against their will as opposed to a willing participant, working their way through college or whatever. In that context, this kind police action is understandable. I would never want to engage a person forced into sexual servitude, if that was indeed the case here. If I would find a provider the least bit uncomfortable, I would walk. As for camera's got you and turn yourself in, I'd wait it out if that were me. I would admit to nothing other paying for massage-the rest was consentual adults. This should be a legalized transaction between two willing adults. This really incredible.
 

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I think people mistake human trafficking with younger women, with regards to massage parlors. However, like the articles on this bust say, these women come to America with the understanding that they will have a job, which they must work at until their debt is paid to the person that got them the visa (aka the human trafficker).

I know this isn't always the case, but I for one don't know shit about my provider's personal lives.
That was my point here - we’re not dealing with volunteers if they are stating it’s human trafficking I.e., trapped into it -and that is an ugly thing to get caught in-I haven’t read the whole thing yet but I’m sure it will be a lot of news about this one -
 

727

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New level of respect. Id like to see how he gets out of this one. Shits scaring me.
He doesn’t get out of this it’s simply a question of how much juicy he has - being involved in human trafficking worse than they were racial comments the owner of the Warriors got forced in the selling his franchise over? will see
 

njlefty

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This story took on a whole new level of meaning after a billionaire got caught. But we cannot forget the possibly 1,000 mongers who are going to be facing arrest.
 

VJLUTZ

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A couple of thoughts:
1. The whole human trafficking angle is such BS. ALL the girls I've know have come here voluntarily. Almost all knew before they left what the job involved. It would also be easy for them to leave or call for help as they ALL have smart phones. But, of course, after they're busted, these women will recite scripted sob stories to gain sympathy and a legal slap on the wrist.
2. The Robert Kraft arrest makes me wonder if the whole sting wasn't an elaborate attempt to net him specifically. They cast a wide net because they had intel that he frequents AMPs in that area. Lots of sour grapes about the Patriots and maybe their politics. I could see it.
3. They may be sorry. Kraft has VERY deep pockets. If anyone has the resources to hire a legal team capable of suing the FL LE fucktards into oblivion, its him.
 

Dc46

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A couple of thoughts:
1. The whole human trafficking angle is such BS. ALL the girls I've know have come here voluntarily. Almost all knew before they left what the job involved. It would also be easy for them to leave or call for help as they ALL have smart phones. But, of course, after they're busted, these women will recite scripted sob stories to gain sympathy and a legal slap on the wrist.
2. The Robert Kraft arrest makes me wonder if the whole sting wasn't an elaborate attempt to net him specifically. They cast a wide net because they had intel that he frequents AMPs in that area. Lots of sour grapes about the Patriots and maybe their politics. I could see it.
3. They may be sorry. Kraft has VERY deep pockets. If anyone has the resources to hire a legal team capable of suing the FL LE fucktards into oblivion, its him.
If it’s trafficing the FBI will be involved.
 
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